Hands dealt from an 8 deck shoe

After each hand is played, a new 8 deck shoe is used to deal the next hand

Blackjack pays 2 to 1

Dealer hits on soft 17

No double down

Split pairs once

No surrender

Assuming the rest of the rules are standard, what is the house advantage for this game....if WoO BS is followed? Thanks :)

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If my math calculation are correct, and I am 99.99% certain they are, then:

2-1 on blackjacks is worth 2.26% advantage to the player.

No doubling is worth 1.37% advantage to the dealer.

So the house edge is 0.82% -2.26% + 1.37% = -0.07%. (In favor of the player)

Min bet is $1 , Max bet is $25

So, correct me if I'm wrong here, but:

Assuming you play just 150 hands an hour, the promotion is available for 6 hours on Fridays, and you bet $25 a hand:

150 hands/hr x 6 hrs = 900 hands.

Winning percentage with BS is .507% , Losing percentage with BS is .493%

900 hands x .507% = 456.3 winning hands

900 hands x .493% = 443.7 losing hands

At $25 a hand:

456.3 winning hands = $11,407.5 won in 6 hours

443.7 losing hands = $11,092.5 lost in 6 hours

11,407.5 - 11,092.5 = $315 won in 6 hours (based on player advantage perfectly following BS)

Am I missing something here?

Quote:gravity89Using the wizard's calculator I get a house edge of 0.82%, before factoring the 2-1 on blackjacks and no doubling.

If my math calculation are correct, and I am 99.99% certain they are, then:

2-1 on blackjacks is worth 2.26% advantage to the player.

No doubling is worth 1.37% advantage to the dealer.

So the house edge is 0.82% -2.26% + 1.37% = -0.07%. (In favor of the player)

Min bet is $1 , Max bet is $25

So, correct me if I'm wrong here, but:

Assuming you play just 150 hands an hour, the promotion is available for 6 hours on Fridays, and you bet $25 a hand:

150 hands/hr x 6 hrs = 900 hands.

Winning percentage with BS is .507% , Losing percentage with BS is .493%

900 hands x .507% = 456.3 winning hands

900 hands x .493% = 443.7 losing hands

At $25 a hand:

456.3 winning hands = $11,407.5 won in 6 hours

443.7 losing hands = $11,092.5 lost in 6 hours

11,407.5 - 11,092.5 = $315 won in 6 hours (based on player advantage perfectly following BS)

Am I missing something here?

You must be missing something. I think you've also made the math more complicated than it needs to be. 900 hands * $25/hand * .07% player edge per hand= $15.75 session win.

Quote:teliotPlayer's edge = 0.0681%.

Interesting that they offer a Positive expectation game even though it is such a small edge.

Teliot, I assume your figures are for for Total Dependent strategy, so for composition Dependent strategy it would be slighly bigger.

If they offer also bonuses etc for playing this game then this is an interesting game for someone to pursue.

Quote:AceTwoInteresting that they offer a Positive expectation game even though it is such a small edge.

I'm not entirely surprised, if I'm not mistaken, many casinos charge a fee of some sort whenever you want to cash out. You'd have to play an insane amount (at EV) to eventually overcome the fee.

Blackjack pays 2/1.

Dealer hits on soft 17.

Double down on 10 and 11, even after splits.

Split any pair once.

Late surrender available.

Insurance pays 9/4.

Player loses ties on 17.

How about this one?

Quote:gravity89After each hand played, a new 4 deck shoe is shuffled and dealt.

Blackjack pays 2/1.

Dealer hits on soft 17.

Double down on 10 and 11, even after splits.

Split any pair once.

Late surrender available.

Insurance pays 9/4.

Player loses ties on 17.

How about this one?

House edge changes from 8 deck, S17, DOA, DAS game:

Four decks +0.06%

Blackjacks pay 2 to 1 +2.27%

Dealer hits on soft 17 -0.22%

Player may double on 10,11 only -0.18%

Player may not resplit -0.10%

Late surrender against ten +0.07%

Player loses 17 ties -1.87%

Net changes: +0.03%

The player disavantage from an 8 deck S17 DOA DAS game shuffling after every hand is: -0.43096%

So the game you described is about -0.4096% to the player, or 0.4096% house edge.

Assuming you play just 150 hands an hour, the promotion is available for 6 hours on Fridays, and you bet $25 a hand:

150 hands/hr x 6 hrs = 900 hands.

Winning percentage with BS is .507% , Losing percentage with BS is .493%

900 hands x .507% = 456.3 winning hands

900 hands x .493% = 443.7 losing hands

At $25 a hand:

456.3 winning hands = $11,407.5 won in 6 hours

443.7 losing hands = $11,092.5 lost in 6 hours

11,407.5 - 11,092.5 = $315 won in 6 hours (based on player advantage perfectly following BS)

900 hands = $157.50

Quote:redsfan0.007 x 25 = $0.175 a hand

900 hands = $157.50

0.07 per cent = 0.0007

Quote:AceTwoInteresting that they offer a Positive expectation game even though it is such a small edge.

Locals casinos in Vegas would sometimes offer a positive expectation on a low maximum game. A true card counter would never play at such small betting spread, and they could always ask someone to leave. Reality is most people can't play accurately anyway, and they make money on idiots and on selling other stuff. They do better by attracting people into the casino.