gravity89
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March 6th, 2013 at 5:00:08 AM permalink
I found an online blackjack game with the following rule variations;


Hands dealt from an 8 deck shoe

After each hand is played, a new 8 deck shoe is used to deal the next hand

Blackjack pays 2 to 1

Dealer hits on soft 17

No double down

Split pairs once

No surrender


Assuming the rest of the rules are standard, what is the house advantage for this game....if WoO BS is followed? Thanks :)
FleaStiff
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March 6th, 2013 at 5:38:35 AM permalink
Sounds as if this is the same as shuffling and re-introducing the discards at the end of each hand.
rdw4potus
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March 6th, 2013 at 7:17:38 AM permalink
Looks like a player advantage of about 1.27%, minus whatever the cost of not being allowed to double is.
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March 6th, 2013 at 12:08:55 PM permalink
Are you sure about these rules or you forgot any other rule variations. It could be that there is a small positive EV for the player under such rules but I do not have an accurate figure. I get an estimate figure of around +0.3% for the player but I could be wrong.
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March 6th, 2013 at 12:20:07 PM permalink
Why would you ever beet at a place with this in their rules / Just asking.

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March 7th, 2013 at 12:36:50 AM permalink
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gravity89
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March 7th, 2013 at 2:47:42 AM permalink
Using the wizard's calculator I get a house edge of 0.82%, before factoring the 2-1 on blackjacks and no doubling.

If my math calculation are correct, and I am 99.99% certain they are, then:

2-1 on blackjacks is worth 2.26% advantage to the player.
No doubling is worth 1.37% advantage to the dealer.

So the house edge is 0.82% -2.26% + 1.37% = -0.07%. (In favor of the player)



Min bet is $1 , Max bet is $25

So, correct me if I'm wrong here, but:

Assuming you play just 150 hands an hour, the promotion is available for 6 hours on Fridays, and you bet $25 a hand:

150 hands/hr x 6 hrs = 900 hands.
Winning percentage with BS is .507% , Losing percentage with BS is .493%
900 hands x .507% = 456.3 winning hands
900 hands x .493% = 443.7 losing hands
At $25 a hand:
456.3 winning hands = $11,407.5 won in 6 hours
443.7 losing hands = $11,092.5 lost in 6 hours
11,407.5 - 11,092.5 = $315 won in 6 hours (based on player advantage perfectly following BS)

Am I missing something here?
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March 10th, 2013 at 4:27:48 PM permalink
I think by playing as I have stated above, coupled with good money management, will equal a winning game here.
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March 10th, 2013 at 4:34:49 PM permalink
Player's edge = 0.0681%.
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rdw4potus
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March 10th, 2013 at 5:56:29 PM permalink
Quote: gravity89

Using the wizard's calculator I get a house edge of 0.82%, before factoring the 2-1 on blackjacks and no doubling.

If my math calculation are correct, and I am 99.99% certain they are, then:

2-1 on blackjacks is worth 2.26% advantage to the player.
No doubling is worth 1.37% advantage to the dealer.

So the house edge is 0.82% -2.26% + 1.37% = -0.07%. (In favor of the player)



Min bet is $1 , Max bet is $25

So, correct me if I'm wrong here, but:

Assuming you play just 150 hands an hour, the promotion is available for 6 hours on Fridays, and you bet $25 a hand:

150 hands/hr x 6 hrs = 900 hands.
Winning percentage with BS is .507% , Losing percentage with BS is .493%
900 hands x .507% = 456.3 winning hands
900 hands x .493% = 443.7 losing hands
At $25 a hand:
456.3 winning hands = $11,407.5 won in 6 hours
443.7 losing hands = $11,092.5 lost in 6 hours
11,407.5 - 11,092.5 = $315 won in 6 hours (based on player advantage perfectly following BS)

Am I missing something here?



You must be missing something. I think you've also made the math more complicated than it needs to be. 900 hands * $25/hand * .07% player edge per hand= $15.75 session win.
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