8 decks, 50% penetration - effect on outcome?

BJ pays 3:2, stands soft 17, no surrender, no doubling after split, 9-11 doublable, 8 decks and four of them being dealt.

The question is: can one gain advantage over the house with card counting with this rules set and penetration? And if anyone cares to show some maths behind this, I'd be very glad.
With only one splitting allowed etc.. Wizard's calculator gives about 0,7%, but the penetration disturbs me. How bad is 50%?

Quote: Fuengirola2

BJ pays 3:2, stands soft 17, no surrender, no doubling after split, 9-11 doublable, 8 decks and four of them being dealt.

The question is: can one gain advantage over the house with card counting with this rules set and penetration? And if anyone cares to show some maths behind this, I'd be very glad.
With only one splitting allowed etc.. Wizard's calculator gives about 0,7%, but the penetration disturbs me. How bad is 50%?

I am no math genius but I believe 50% penetration kills any advantage you might hope to gain by counting

Generally, I agree. Is there no other place to play?

Yeah. After reading further on the subject it seems that more than 1/3 undealt is very bad and makes it maybe impossible to gain advantage.

Quote: Fuengirola2

BJ pays 3:2, stands soft 17, no surrender, no doubling after split, 9-11 doublable, 8 decks and four of them being dealt.

The question is: can one gain advantage over the house with card counting with this rules set and penetration? And if anyone cares to show some maths behind this, I'd be very glad.
With only one splitting allowed etc.. Wizard's calculator gives about 0,7%, but the penetration disturbs me. How bad is 50%?

Bad rules and penetration make this game unplayable. If you absolutely must play do not do so in negative counts. I would quit playing rather than attempt this one unless utilizing something more than straight counting.