Best blackjack in the midwest
We offer 8, 6, 4, and 2 deck games. Though the 2 deck is on and off, we dont always have it. Our rules are pretty standard, split up to 3 times (except the double deck), doubles after splits, hit soft seventeen. The double deck you can't resplit aces, which isn't really a significant blow anyway. Limits on the floor during the week are $5-$199 on the six deck, $10-$199 on four, and $3-$100 on eight. High stakes limits $25-$500, sometimes $50-$500 and they've got 6 and 4 decks in there.
Penetration is very good. A deck on all 8, 6, and 4 deck games are a deck cut and alot of dealers go deeper. Double deck is a half deck.
Recently managment made a BIG mistake by deciding that they were no longer going to put the cut off cards before the shuffle in 3 different places. THEY ALL GO ON TOP OF THE DISCARD.
This is a VERY lucrative opportunity for people that know blackjack. If the remaining pack is rich when the cut comes out, you're going to know exactly where they are right after a shuffle. A player can cut as few cards as a half a deck. So if you cut it in the back, you just gotta play half a deck in order to bet on the rich deck of cards coming right after it.
As far as casino personel goes, most of our floors are absolutely clueless to a counter. I've never been to a casino where keeping an eye out for counters was a lower priority. This goes double for the swing shift staff, this is where all the new floors go. The most knowledgable group of floormen exsists on graves, I would avoid that shift. Not because they are overly good at catching counters, but because the other two shifts are so bad.
Anyway, that's all I've got. If anybody has any questions i'll be more than happy to answer them.
I dont know whose idea it was..... There is no benefit to the casino except for the extra 5-10 seconds gained by not slugging the cards in different places. Get in on this while it lasts boys, because it surely wont last long.
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Quote: buzzpaff" If the remaining pack is rich when the cut comes out, you're going to know exactly where they are right after a shuffle. "
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I shouldn't have said exactly, you're never gonna know exactly. But you'll definetly know when to place your large bets.
Quote: EazyMoneyHey everybody, I'm a dealer at the original Treasure Island located in Red Wing, MN. Recently we've had some rules changes that make this easily one of the best, if not the best place to count in the midwest, if not the country.
We offer 8, 6, 4, and 2 deck games. Though the 2 deck is on and off, we dont always have it. Our rules are pretty standard, split up to 3 times (except the double deck), doubles after splits, hit soft seventeen. The double deck you can't resplit aces, which isn't really a significant blow anyway. Limits on the floor during the week are $5-$199 on the six deck, $10-$199 on four, and $3-$100 on eight. High stakes limits $25-$500, sometimes $50-$500 and they've got 6 and 4 decks in there.
Penetration is very good. A deck on all 8, 6, and 4 deck games are a deck cut and alot of dealers go deeper. Double deck is a half deck.
Recently managment made a BIG mistake by deciding that they were no longer going to put the cut off cards before the shuffle in 3 different places. THEY ALL GO ON TOP OF THE DISCARD.
This is a VERY lucrative opportunity for people that know blackjack. If the remaining pack is rich when the cut comes out, you're going to know exactly where they are right after a shuffle. A player can cut as few cards as a half a deck. So if you cut it in the back, you just gotta play half a deck in order to bet on the rich deck of cards coming right after it.
As far as casino personel goes, most of our floors are absolutely clueless to a counter. I've never been to a casino where keeping an eye out for counters was a lower priority. This goes double for the swing shift staff, this is where all the new floors go. The most knowledgable group of floormen exsists on graves, I would avoid that shift. Not because they are overly good at catching counters, but because the other two shifts are so bad.
Anyway, that's all I've got. If anybody has any questions i'll be more than happy to answer them.
I dont know whose idea it was..... There is no benefit to the casino except for the extra 5-10 seconds gained by not slugging the cards in different places. Get in on this while it lasts boys, because it surely wont last long.
I'll be generous and call these rules mediocre at best, especially with the low table max. No counter is going to play a 6 deck $50 game and be limited to a 1-10 spread.
Since you spilled most of the beans already, please describe your shuffle in detail.
Quote: 1BBI'll be generous and call these rules mediocre at best, especially with the low table max.
Can get the same rules with the same hand-shuffle at Diamond Jo in Worth County, IA, but @ $25-$1,000 and no heat. Or better rules @ $25-500 (sometimes $1000) at Mystic Lake in Shakopee, machine shuffled. Or $5-$200 w/S17 at Prairie's Edge in Granite Falls. They're so friendly out there, you could destroy that game if you could count and talk at the same time. but what's the point of taking a $5 game apart.
In MN, you'll have the supervisor staring at the table (but usually not catching on). In IA, you'll have almost no attention at all. They're so paranoid about dealer errors on the carnival games, they just sort of let the BJ games go unwatched. It's still hardly worth playing, but it's as loose as you can get within driving distance of Minneapolis.
The reason I think it's one of the better places is because of our staff being so ignorant, great penetration and being able to shuffle track easily.
Penetration is gonna vary a little bit, but alot of us cut off that double deck at 20 cards, a little less on occassion. Very conceivable that the rest of the games are going to be cut at less than a deck.
Somebody brought up Mystic, I've worked there too. Two words that then mention all the time at Mystic and almost never at TI is "gaming protection". They keep a close eye on the O/U and surrender tables. I've seen alot of people kicked out of Mystic and only one kicked from TI.
Sorry, the title of the thread isn't accurate; I just heard about our new shuffle earlier today and was talking to some of my colleagues and we were really excited about it.
I'd still be down here playing every day if I could, with penetration as good as it is.
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I've seen alot of people kicked out of Mystic and only one kicked from TI.
Same here. Which is funny for (at least) three reasons:
1. Mystic Lake is a dry casino, while TI offers and comps alcohol for players.
2. (maybe 1.a.) Most of the backoffs I've seen have been for jackassery and not counting or holecarding.
3. Over the years, I've gotten away with a LOT at Mystic. In 12 years of play, I've been asked 1 time if I was counting cards. I answered "yes, there are 312 of them," and that was the end of that. No shuffle, no flat bet, no warning - and they let my table max bet stand.
