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May 15th, 2013 at 7:31:23 AM permalink
Don't try to make it sound like I am out to take ANY don't better's money on the table. That's not what I am saying at all.

All that I am saying is that for those who think my roll is 100% random, I will do this: I will bet the do's with odds of my choosing, and you bet the don'ts with the same odds. As long as you want to take the house's action, I'll throw you a chip every time a 12 comes on the comeout roll so you get a 100% free game.

This is just a way of saying that I am offering a way for someone to demonstrate with THEIR money that they believe fervently that I am a 100% random shooter by giving them a 100% free game to play.

This is only offering up an extra $0.02 per roll to give someone a free game because they are so focused on it being a "negative expectation game."

And it's not even because I want their money. It's because I want to offer a vehicle for someone to put up money. Just like SOOPOO makes bets to people: I am making a bet. I bet you $0.02 per roll you would not play a free game against me because there is a chance I have a larger edge against your bets that the house would have on a random shooter.

Let's not extrapolate what I am saying to mean that I want to take every don't player's money.

I can make a list of people I would like to personally play what should be a 100% free game during my rolls if I am a random shooter.

But I do not approach the game this way when I play. Just asking people who think I'm a 100% random shooter to play a "FREE GAME" with me under that assumption!
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AlanMendelson
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May 15th, 2013 at 7:36:52 AM permalink
I'm just curious-- you mentioned the odds, but at what minimum for the flat bets? Would you do this at a $100 table?
Ahigh
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May 15th, 2013 at 7:40:40 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

I'm just curious-- you mentioned the odds, but at what minimum for the flat bets? Would you do this at a $100 table?



This offer is for $10 maximum on the pass line, and you have to mirror the odds that I choose in order to get a free game.

I will do this on a 345x odds table. I'm not even asking that you step up to really big bets. Just lay $30 against me on a $5 table is what I would expect someone to be willing to do.

I don't want to just get into trying to out-bet somebody. Just straight lay 30 on every box number would be fine for someone and I'll toss you a $5 chip every time I roll boxcars on the comeout to keep you company while you tell me how I'm only random to goad me into the game.

And right now if I were to do this, I would have to find some money myself as I've locked it all away. But if someone stepped up to the plate, I have access to cash and I could get to it for such a noble cause. I do have $500 in my BitCoin account as a backup. I also have a couple thousand coming from Amber for the tungsten cubes.

But yes, please do understand my desire to "take your money" is still in good fun. And if you won or I won, it would be mostly luck for any single session of 200 to 1000 rolls! Just look at my charts and you can see I have ups and downs like any random shooter also has.
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MrV
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May 15th, 2013 at 7:45:07 AM permalink
Let us say that your detractors all bet DP when you are shooting, and you hit a couple points before you seven out.

What would that prove?

You claim (or imply, anyway) that somehow it would show you are ... what, exactly?

A DI?

A winner?

It would in reality prove nothing because in the short run anything can and does happen.

You crave a showdown / definitive battle of some sort: ala The Highlander .

But a craps competition would be as meaningless as playing Rock, Paper, Scissors, and sword fighting is frowned upon: what to do?

What about arm wrestling?

100 yard dash?

Or, perhaps the gentlemen could unzip and play "mine is bigger?"
"What, me worry?"
Ahigh
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May 15th, 2013 at 7:48:01 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

Let us say that your detractors all bet DP when you are shooting, and you hit a couple points before you seven out.

What would that prove?

You claim (or imply, anyway) that somehow it would show you are ... what, exactly?

A DI?

A winner?

It would in reality prove nothing because in the short run anything can and does happen.

You crave a showdown / definitive battle of some sort: ala The Highlander .

But a craps competition would be as meaningless as playing Rock, Paper, Scissors, and sword fighting is frowned upon: what to do?

What about arm wrestling?

100 yard dash?

Or, perhaps the gentlemen could unzip and play "mine is bigger?"



It would prove one thing and one thing only. That you weren't scared or too broke to ask for details of my challenge.

Maybe I need to remind you that I am STILL not a professional gambler. Nor do I claim to even have an edge at the game. I want one, sure!!!

But this is still just for entertainment ALL of this stuff that I am doing.

I have a day job!
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AlanMendelson
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May 15th, 2013 at 7:51:35 AM permalink
I have to agree with MrV on this one. First, I wouldnt bet against you. Secondly I wouldnt want you to lose. Thirdly, anything could happen in craps and hopefully (whether you have actual dice controlling skill or not) you'd have the mother of all rolls and we'd both walk out of the casino with a million bucks.

So, I think your challenge is a "no go."

However -- why don't you go back to doing your TV show which costs you nothing and at the same time a platform not only to show you stuff but gives you the opportunity to actually build upon your idea for a craps TV show? THAT would be your BEST GAMBLE right now and you've already made your "buy in" with the table, the gear and you have some equity with the programs you've already had.

Actually, you're on a roll, so to speak.

Go back to being the "investigator" of craps.
Ahigh
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May 15th, 2013 at 7:53:44 AM permalink
I am actually planning to submerge myself in my work for a while. The Ahigh show is very time consuming. But I may do some more work there, just no plans at the moment.
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TIMSPEED
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May 15th, 2013 at 7:59:08 AM permalink
I'll take you up on that challenge Aaron.. The next time I'm in Vegas...that way, we know for sure one of us is walking out of the casino a winner :p
Can we do it at a Boyd property? (I want the comps, haha)
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
SanchoPanza
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May 15th, 2013 at 8:01:10 AM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

You bet the don'ts with the same odds. As long as you want to take the house's action, I'll throw you a chip every time a 12 comes on the comeout roll so you get a 100% free game.

First, a lot of don't bettors do not lay odds. Second and far more basic, don't bettors do not lose their bets on 12's on the comeout.
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May 15th, 2013 at 8:25:48 AM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

First, a lot of don't bettors do not lay odds. Second and far more basic, don't bettors do not lose their bets on 12's on the comeout.



Right, but at a $10 table, if I threw them a single red chip, 29% (percentage of comeout rolls) of 1/36 of each roll is .29 / 36 = 0.04 cents per roll. True that on a red chip table, I would throw them two $2.50, so every other time it would be three bucks basically.

Sorry I wasn't clear about tossing half the pass line bet, but that's what I would do. They would effectively win half of any don't pass or DC with each twelve that came up on the initial roll of a don't pass or DC.
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