Baccarat isnt random but bias
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October 13th, 2024 at 2:00:42 AM
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Hi.
I am new here but playing bacc for 10 years. 3 months ago i found something crazy with baccarat simulator here on the site. After that i tried it out in real casino and i suspect something about the randomness of the game.
I play flat so 1 unit, and my max win/loss per 416 cards is between -4 +4 units. I think this cant be because of the variance, i tested it out on 100.000 hands+ and made great money since that. Remember, flat betting.
I am new here but playing bacc for 10 years. 3 months ago i found something crazy with baccarat simulator here on the site. After that i tried it out in real casino and i suspect something about the randomness of the game.
I play flat so 1 unit, and my max win/loss per 416 cards is between -4 +4 units. I think this cant be because of the variance, i tested it out on 100.000 hands+ and made great money since that. Remember, flat betting.
October 13th, 2024 at 4:47:43 AM
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Quote: StefanQuenHi.
I am new here but playing bacc for 10 years. 3 months ago i found something crazy with baccarat simulator here on the site. After that i tried it out in real casino and i suspect something about the randomness of the game.
I play flat so 1 unit, and my max win/loss per 416 cards is between -4 +4 units. I think this cant be because of the variance, i tested it out on 100.000 hands+ and made great money since that. Remember, flat betting.
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You made this exact same post elsewhere. Making it a second time doesn’t help any of us understand what you are trying to say. I know English must not be your first language, but there has to be some translation ap that you can use! What are you trying to ask us?
October 13th, 2024 at 5:19:11 AM
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I dont know how be more clear. I claim baccarat isnt random, and i won over 100.000 hands. I said the variance of the game can be outplayed. Sorry, i think you should pratice english more, cause it isnt hard to understand what i claim 😃
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October 13th, 2024 at 6:18:58 AM
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Are you an attorney?
October 13th, 2024 at 6:29:43 AM
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Quote: StefanQuenI dont know how be more clear. I claim baccarat isnt random, and i won over 100.000 hands. I said the variance of the game can be outplayed. Sorry, i think you should pratice english more, cause it isnt hard to understand what i claim 😃
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Well done.
How many total hands did you play to win the 100000?
May the cards fall in your favor.
October 13th, 2024 at 6:33:26 AM
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Quote: DieterQuote: StefanQuenI dont know how be more clear. I claim baccarat isnt random, and i won over 100.000 hands. I said the variance of the game can be outplayed. Sorry, i think you should pratice english more, cause it isnt hard to understand what i claim 😃
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Well done.
How many total hands did you play to win the 100000?
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Touché!!!
October 13th, 2024 at 6:52:49 AM
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Now i know how to use the site :) sorry for being noob
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October 13th, 2024 at 6:58:37 AM
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Quote: DieterQuote: StefanQuenI dont know how be more clear. I claim baccarat isnt random, and i won over 100.000 hands. I said the variance of the game can be outplayed. Sorry, i think you should pratice english more, cause it isnt hard to understand what i claim 😃
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Well done.
How many total hands did you play to win the 100000?
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Good question. I played a total of 100.000 hands. On simulator+live.
I won over 21.000 units (with house edge), flat betting, and playing ALL hands in the shoe. I think staying in range -4 +4 over all shoes is crazy, and proves the bias in the game.
October 13th, 2024 at 7:11:02 AM
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Quote: StefanQuenNow i know how to use the site :) sorry for being noob
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You haven’t said how many shoes you played. I’ll guess at 1200? And to be clear, you are saying on none of those shoes did you end up or down more than 4 units?
And you are claiming you are up 21,000 units flat betting out of only 100,000 bets?
The odds of being up 21,000 units on 100,000 flat bets is 1 in a (I don’t have enough zeros). It is one of the most ridiculous claims ever made on this website.
I guess if you are trying to say the game you are playing is gaffed, the answer, is, yes, it is gaffed.
October 13th, 2024 at 7:35:52 AM
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You haven’t said how many shoes you played. I’ll guess at 1200? And to be clear, you are saying on none of those shoes did you end up or down more than 4 units?
And you are claiming you are up 21,000 units flat betting out of only 100,000 bets?
The odds of being up 21,000 units on 100,000 flat bets is 1 in a (I don’t have enough zeros). It is one of the most ridiculous claims ever made on this website.
I guess if you are trying to say the game you are playing is gaffed, the answer, is, yes, it is gaffed.
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Thx for your answer, i think the game here at wizard of odds is a good test. I do understand the negativity, but if wizard collects data from the game here on site, it is easy to prove what i am claiming. I think alltogether 100.000 hands is a huge pattern from the population, and my results are definietly not flawed. I just CAN’T understand HOW IN THE WORLD NOBODY FOUND the bias in the game since 1500s. It is SO OBVIOUS. But i can tell you for sure, you CAN STAY in between -4 +4 in all shoes. Cant explain it better.
October 13th, 2024 at 9:48:00 AM
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Quote: StefanQuenQuote: SOOPOOQuote: StefanQuenNow i know how to use the site :) sorry for being noob
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You haven’t said how many shoes you played. I’ll guess at 1200? And to be clear, you are saying on none of those shoes did you end up or down more than 4 units?
And you are claiming you are up 21,000 units flat betting out of only 100,000 bets?
The odds of being up 21,000 units on 100,000 flat bets is 1 in a (I don’t have enough zeros). It is one of the most ridiculous claims ever made on this website.
I guess if you are trying to say the game you are playing is gaffed, the answer, is, yes, it is gaffed.
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Thx for your answer, i think the game here at wizard of odds is a good test. I do understand the negativity, but if wizard collects data from the game here on site, it is easy to prove what i am claiming. I think alltogether 100.000 hands is a huge pattern from the population, and my results are definietly not flawed. I just CAN’T understand HOW IN THE WORLD NOBODY FOUND the bias in the game since 1500s. It is SO OBVIOUS. But i can tell you for sure, you CAN STAY in between -4 +4 in all shoes. Cant explain it better.
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I still don’t know what you are asking? What are you looking for?
And you do KNOW how much you are being laughed at for thinking there is some magic that YOU found out that no one else has figured out ‘since 1500’.
October 13th, 2024 at 9:57:18 AM
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Loose lips sink ships. Don't walk, RUN... and go quietly make your Millions.Quote: StefanQuenQuote: SOOPOOQuote: StefanQuenNow i know how to use the site :) sorry for being noob
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You haven’t said how many shoes you played. I’ll guess at 1200? And to be clear, you are saying on none of those shoes did you end up or down more than 4 units?
And you are claiming you are up 21,000 units flat betting out of only 100,000 bets?
The odds of being up 21,000 units on 100,000 flat bets is 1 in a (I don’t have enough zeros). It is one of the most ridiculous claims ever made on this website.
I guess if you are trying to say the game you are playing is gaffed, the answer, is, yes, it is gaffed.
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Thx for your answer, i think the game here at wizard of odds is a good test. I do understand the negativity, but if wizard collects data from the game here on site, it is easy to prove what i am claiming. I think alltogether 100.000 hands is a huge pattern from the population, and my results are definietly not flawed. I just CAN’T understand HOW IN THE WORLD NOBODY FOUND the bias in the game since 1500s. It is SO OBVIOUS. But i can tell you for sure, you CAN STAY in between -4 +4 in all shoes. Cant explain it better.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 13th, 2024 at 10:07:35 AM
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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: StefanQuenQuote: SOOPOOQuote: StefanQuenNow i know how to use the site :) sorry for being noob
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You haven’t said how many shoes you played. I’ll guess at 1200? And to be clear, you are saying on none of those shoes did you end up or down more than 4 units?
And you are claiming you are up 21,000 units flat betting out of only 100,000 bets?
The odds of being up 21,000 units on 100,000 flat bets is 1 in a (I don’t have enough zeros). It is one of the most ridiculous claims ever made on this website.
I guess if you are trying to say the game you are playing is gaffed, the answer, is, yes, it is gaffed.
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Thx for your answer, i think the game here at wizard of odds is a good test. I do understand the negativity, but if wizard collects data from the game here on site, it is easy to prove what i am claiming. I think alltogether 100.000 hands is a huge pattern from the population, and my results are definietly not flawed. I just CAN’T understand HOW IN THE WORLD NOBODY FOUND the bias in the game since 1500s. It is SO OBVIOUS. But i can tell you for sure, you CAN STAY in between -4 +4 in all shoes. Cant explain it better.
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I still don’t know what you are asking? What are you looking for?
And you do KNOW how much you are being laughed at for thinking there is some magic that YOU found out that no one else has figured out ‘since 1500’.
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I still understand your frustration about this, but as i told you, the simulator on this site is good for testing. So should i lie here that i lost, even if i am up about 20% over the house edge? Maybe open minded thinking is the seed? And also said, Wizard has done the best simulator ever, and i did my tests on the simulator on this site. So your claim is that i am lieing here for nothing? Lol. I just said that the WAY THE VARIANCE IS CREATED IN BACCARAT, can be outplayed. Cant be easier than that.
October 13th, 2024 at 10:07:37 AM
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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: StefanQuenQuote: SOOPOOQuote: StefanQuenNow i know how to use the site :) sorry for being noob
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You haven’t said how many shoes you played. I’ll guess at 1200? And to be clear, you are saying on none of those shoes did you end up or down more than 4 units?
And you are claiming you are up 21,000 units flat betting out of only 100,000 bets?
The odds of being up 21,000 units on 100,000 flat bets is 1 in a (I don’t have enough zeros). It is one of tridiculous claims ever made on this website.
I guess if you are trying to say the game you are playing is gaffed, the answer, is, yes, it is gaffed.
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Thx for your answer, i think the game here at wizard of odds is a good test. I do understand the negativity, but if wizard collects data from the game here on site, it is easy to prove what i am claiming. I think alltogether 100.000 hands is a huge pattern from the population, and my results are definietly not flawed. I just CAN’T understand HOW IN THE WORLD NOBODY FOUND the bias in the game since 1500s. It is SO OBVIOUS. But i can tell you for sure, you CAN STAY in between -4 +4 in all shoes. Cant explain it better.
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I still don’t know what you are asking? What are you looking for?
And you do KNOW how much you are being laughed at for thinking there is some magic that YOU found out that no one else has figured out ‘since 1500’.
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October 13th, 2024 at 10:17:49 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfLoose lips sink ships. Don't walk, RUN... and go quietly make your Millions.Quote: StefanQuenQuote: SOOPOOQuote: StefanQuenNow i know how to use the site :) sorry for being noob
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You haven’t said how many shoes you played. I’ll guess at 1200? And to be clear, you are saying on none of those shoes did you end up or down more than 4 units?
And you are claiming you are up 21,000 units flat betting out of only 100,000 bets?
The odds of being up 21,000 units on 100,000 flat bets is 1 in a (I don’t have enough zeros). It is one of the most ridiculous claims ever made on this website.
I guess if you are trying to say the game you are playing is gaffed, the answer, is, yes, it is gaffed.
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Thx for your answer, i think the game here at wizard of odds is a good test. I do understand the negativity, but if wizard collects data from the game here on site, it is easy to prove what i am claiming. I think alltogether 100.000 hands is a huge pattern from the population, and my results are definietly not flawed. I just CAN’T understand HOW IN THE WORLD NOBODY FOUND the bias in the game since 1500s. It is SO OBVIOUS. But i can tell you for sure, you CAN STAY in between -4 +4 in all shoes. Cant explain it better.
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I understand your joke haha.
But think about what i claim. On the SIMULATOR HERE, AT WIZARD OF ODDS, i did over 90.000 hands! EVERY SHOE ENDED BETWEEN -4 +4 units. This is BECAUSE HOW THE HOUSE EDGE IS DESIGNED. I understand negativity also. But i cant lie to myself. Think about it. Why do you ONLY ADD VALUES IN BACCARAT. Why dont you for example multiply? Because the designer of the game was smart. But 520 years later, someone can be “SMARTER” THAN A P S E U D O RANDOM enviroment. Hard to understand i know, but be open-minded.
October 13th, 2024 at 10:31:49 AM
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"I don't know what he just said"----Donald Trump
October 13th, 2024 at 10:37:47 AM
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Quote: FatGeezus"I don't know what he just said"----Donald Trump
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No issues, i am not here to ask anything, just sharing what i discovered
October 13th, 2024 at 1:36:39 PM
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Quote: StefanQuenQuote: AxelWolfLoose lips sink ships. Don't walk, RUN... and go quietly make your Millions.Quote: StefanQuenNot a joke. You made great money already, why not keep quiet and go make more great money?Quote: SOOPOOQuote: StefanQuenNow i know how to use the site :) sorry for being noob
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You haven’t said how many shoes you played. I’ll guess at 1200? And to be clear, you are saying on none of those shoes did you end up or down more than 4 units?
And you are claiming you are up 21,000 units flat betting out of only 100,000 bets?
The odds of being up 21,000 units on 100,000 flat bets is 1 in a (I don’t have enough zeros). It is one of the most ridiculous claims ever made on this website.
I guess if you are trying to say the game you are playing is gaffed, the answer, is, yes, it is gaffed.
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Thx for your answer, i think the game here at wizard of odds is a good test. I do understand the negativity, but if wizard collects data from the game here on site, it is easy to prove what i am claiming. I think alltogether 100.000 hands is a huge pattern from the population, and my results are definietly not flawed. I just CAN’T understand HOW IN THE WORLD NOBODY FOUND the bias in the game since 1500s. It is SO OBVIOUS. But i can tell you for sure, you CAN STAY in between -4 +4 in all shoes. Cant explain it better.
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I understand your joke haha.
But think about what i claim. On the SIMULATOR HERE, AT WIZARD OF ODDS, i did over 90.000 hands! EVERY SHOE ENDED BETWEEN -4 +4 units. This is BECAUSE HOW THE HOUSE EDGE IS DESIGNED. I understand negativity also. But i cant lie to myself. Think about it. Why do you ONLY ADD VALUES IN BACCARAT. Why dont you for example multiply? Because the designer of the game was smart. But 520 years later, someone can be “SMARTER” THAN A P S E U D O RANDOM enviroment. Hard to understand i know, but be open-minded.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 13th, 2024 at 1:58:08 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfQuote: StefanQuenQuote: AxelWolfLoose lips sink ships. Don't walk, RUN... and go quietly make your Millions.Quote: StefanQuenNot a joke. You made great money already, why not keep quiet and go make more great money?Quote: SOOPOOQuote: StefanQuenNow i know how to use the site :) sorry for being noob
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You haven’t said how many shoes you played. I’ll guess at 1200? And to be clear, you are saying on none of those shoes did you end up or down more than 4 units?
And you are claiming you are up 21,000 units flat betting out of only 100,000 bets?
The odds of being up 21,000 units on 100,000 flat bets is 1 in a (I don’t have enough zeros). It is one of the most ridiculous claims ever made on this website.
I guess if you are trying to say the game you are playing is gaffed, the answer, is, yes, it is gaffed.
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Thx for your answer, i think the game here at wizard of odds is a good test. I do understand the negativity, but if wizard collects data from the game here on site, it is easy to prove what i am claiming. I think alltogether 100.000 hands is a huge pattern from the population, and my results are definietly not flawed. I just CAN’T understand HOW IN THE WORLD NOBODY FOUND the bias in the game since 1500s. It is SO OBVIOUS. But i can tell you for sure, you CAN STAY in between -4 +4 in all shoes. Cant explain it better.
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I understand your joke haha.
But think about what i claim. On the SIMULATOR HERE, AT WIZARD OF ODDS, i did over 90.000 hands! EVERY SHOE ENDED BETWEEN -4 +4 units. This is BECAUSE HOW THE HOUSE EDGE IS DESIGNED. I understand negativity also. But i cant lie to myself. Think about it. Why do you ONLY ADD VALUES IN BACCARAT. Why dont you for example multiply? Because the designer of the game was smart. But 520 years later, someone can be “SMARTER” THAN A P S E U D O RANDOM enviroment. Hard to understand i know, but be open-minded.
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So if nobody cares about this, you can close the thread.
Hopefully someone will have same success as me :)
October 13th, 2024 at 10:00:34 PM
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Quote: StefanQuen
So if nobody cares about this, you can close the thread.
Hopefully someone will have same success as me :)
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I understand that you play only the Player and not Banker
Which casino did you play it in real?
October 14th, 2024 at 1:44:29 AM
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Quote: StefanQuen
I still understand your frustration about this, but as i told you, the simulator on this site is good for testing. So should i lie here that i lost, even if i am up about 20% over the house edge? Maybe open minded thinking is the seed? And also said, Wizard has done the best simulator ever, and i did my tests on the simulator on this site. So your claim is that i am lieing here for nothing? Lol. I just said that the WAY THE VARIANCE IS CREATED IN BACCARAT, can be outplayed. Cant be easier than that.
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OK. I'll bite. You beat the game by flat betting. What you don't say is how you select your bet. That's the secret sauce.
Anyhow, to humor you, I just played ONE shoe of the wizard's game, flat betting player. I ended 6 units up. Immediately that falls outside the range that you experienced over all the shoes you played, so I deduce you are not flat betting player.
So. in your description, you have not proposed any 'system' or method that can be tested. Tell, or don't tell. You get Kudos if you reveal your winning method, or you gain $$$$ if you silently play it at a live casino. Popping up here and saying you do it but won't say how you do it will win you only derision.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
October 20th, 2024 at 3:07:54 PM
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hey i send you a pm
October 20th, 2024 at 10:23:33 PM
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can you teach me?!
November 18th, 2024 at 4:03:42 PM
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exactly scammer
November 18th, 2024 at 4:14:31 PM
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I didnt hurt you, but i guess you lost a lot and thats why you act like a clown. First begging me to help and when I say no, you start acting like a whore. Sad…
November 19th, 2024 at 2:41:18 AM
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Quote: StefanQuenI didnt hurt you, but i guess you lost a lot and thats why you act like a clown. First begging me to help and when I say no, you start acting like a whore. Sad…
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Personal insult. 7 day suspension.
Mods, assume there's a penalty kicker in play, despite probation.
May the cards fall in your favor.
