Quote: EvenBobAnd it's not hit and run, it's win and leave.
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That's like when I tell my friends I am going to the cinema and they correct me that am going to the movies.
Very thought provoking
Quote: darkozQuote: EvenBobAnd it's not hit and run, it's win and leave.
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That's like when I tell my friends I am going to the cinema and they correct me that am going to the movies.
Very thought provoking
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Hit and Run sounds like some kind of criminal act, like you're going to knock over a liquor store. Win and leave is a strategy, one that very few people employ. Make some money and get out, otherwise you're just another pawn of the casino, doing exactly what they want you to do.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: Dieter
Is this insight of when to get in and when to get out (profitably) something you can teach?
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You ever try to teach anything, it's monstrously hard. I was a history major in college as I've said here before and I wanted to be a teacher. To be a teacher you had to take classes on how to teach. Now they require a degree in how to teach. Teaching anything is not easy and I would have no idea how to teach this. And no offense, but why would I do it anyway. What do I get out of it except a lot of time spent.
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I've found the moment when a student or trainee has an epiphany and finally 'gets it' to be immensely satisfying.
I've heard similar reports from other teachers, trainers, and coaches, so I don't think it's just me.
Quote: Dieter
I've found the moment when a student or trainee has an epiphany and finally 'gets it' to be immensely satisfying.
I've heard similar reports from other teachers, trainers, and coaches, so I don't think it's just me.
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And why do you think that immensely satisfying feeling happens. It's because they so rarely see it, that when it does happen they are astounded and satisfied. Teaching sucks. My daughter, as I mentioned many times here, is a math professor, head of her Department in the college she teaches at. She's been doing it 20 years and she used to love it and now she hates it. She cannot wait to retire. Every semester she starts out with 30 students in three or four days that drops to 15, after about a week it drops to 10 students and that's where it stays the rest of the semester. These kids just drop out because they were so poorly trained in high school. It's a dumb thing to do because they have to make this class up in order to graduate. My daughter says it's just not worth it anymore, trying to pound it into these kids heads. In order to teach this I would have absolutely no idea where to start and I can see it becoming a tangled mess almost immediately. Teaching a subject is something you learn how to do and to do it correctly takes a lot of trial and error. I don't have time for that.
Quote: AxelWolfJust do what OnceDear and BBB did.Quote: gordonm888How I feel about having to read this thread as part of my moderator duties:
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I wasn't implying that this thread is driving me into retirement as a moderator. I'm just saying that this thread doesn't lift my heart and stimulate my brain as much as the other threads do.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: Dieter
I've found the moment when a student or trainee has an epiphany and finally 'gets it' to be immensely satisfying.
I've heard similar reports from other teachers, trainers, and coaches, so I don't think it's just me.
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And why do you think that immensely satisfying feeling happens. It's because they so rarely see it, that when it does happen they are astounded and satisfied.
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I would guess it's enjoyable to help others achieve their goals.
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I would guess it's enjoyable to help others achieve their goals.
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I'm sure it is if you have a lot of time on your hands.
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I would guess it's enjoyable to help others achieve their goals.
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I'm sure it is if you have a lot of time on your hands.
everybody knows how pressed for time you are
and how busy your schedule is
just about everybody really appreciates your taking the time that you do to educate the masses
not many are so very selfless - please understand - we may sometimes forget to say thank you
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: EvenBobAnd it's not hit and run, it's win and leave.
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That's like when I tell my friends I am going to the cinema and they correct me that am going to the movies.
Very thought provoking
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Hit and Run sounds like some kind of criminal act, like you're going to knock over a liquor store. Win and leave is a strategy, one that very few people employ. Make some money and get out, otherwise you're just another pawn of the casino, doing exactly what they want you to do.
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"A Rose by any other name is still a Rose"
Quote by some playwright hundreds of years ago.
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just about everybody really appreciates your taking the time that you do to educate the masses
not many are so very selfless - please understand - we may sometimes forget to say thank you
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I wish I could find the movie quote I'm looking for, where some slick guy spews a bunch of quasi complimentary mouth movements to a cop, and the cop just laughs in his face and says, whatever Mr Hotshot, I'm still going to need to see your license and registration. You know, an Eddie Haskell kind of guy..
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I would guess it's enjoyable to help others achieve their goals.
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I'm sure it is if you have a lot of time on your hands.
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I hear some folks invent their own time zones, freeing up several hours a day.
How they utilize such a windfall is none of my business, of course.
Now,
You know, something like when I was in a casino on a weekday and was betting more per hand than the rest of the casino combined. 🤣
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I hear some folks invent their own time zones, freeing up several hours a day.
How they utilize such a windfall is none of my business, of course.
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You do realize that Daylight Savings Time doesn't give you any more time, it just changes the clock around. I know I know, life is full of disappointments..
Quote: EvenBobWell this is kind of driving me crazy. This is the third day when I'm not seeing anything to bet on in the live Baccarat feeds. Yesterday I bet once when I shouldn't have and lost and today I bet twice and so I'm one behind again but I'm not seeing anything else to bet on. There are no patterns and trends, just crap. I'm following the bets the majority is making because it shows it to me and they are losing their asses. They are getting five or six or seven wrong in a row that's how bad it is. It's a Global Effect that my friend Gizmo coined. It's a very real thing. Now I'm forced to go back and play the 10 cent table, because it's computer run Global Effect doesn't affect it.
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Of course the global effect doesn't work.
The entire planet is in the grips of global warming. Your global effect won't work properly until 2075 or so when global warming is finally reversed.
Quote: darkozYour global effect won't work properly until 2075 or so when global warming is finally reversed.
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It's just a phrase, got to call it something because it's definitely a thing. Ignore it at your own peril..
Quote: MDawgIf no one's been put in red over this thread, then it ain't much of a thread. Yet.
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Dieter put me in jail in a fit of tyranny.
Didn't I get you suspended for like a month at one time? I wonder how many days in total I have helped get you suspended for?Quote: MDawgOops I stand corrected. I have not been following this thread, and upon looking, now I see that two have been suspended already. That's the beginning of a respectable count, but I think my Adventures threads have garnered more suspensions than many other threads combined. Certainly the amount of time done over my threads adds up to perhaps more time than the rest of one or two of the suspension lists, combined.
Now,
You know, something like when I was in a casino on a weekday and was betting more per hand than the rest of the casino combined. 🤣
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So incomplete logs only showing cherrypicked documents and some excuses.Quote: EvenBobThis is interesting. I was bored so I went to the computer generated 10 cent Baccarat game and using the same strategy I use on even chance bets in roulette and using a common D'alem progression I made between 45 and 50 units and I never bet over five units using the progression. It was actually quite easy and the only reason I quit was I started to get a cramp in my mouse hand cuz this took about 20 minutes. I'm only posting the first and last page because there's like 8 or 10 pages and I don't feel like copying and making pictures out of all of them just to post here so you can all make fun of it. I'm interested to see what happens when I increase my bet from 10 cents to 30 cents. I want to see how long it takes before the algorithm starts playing against me. Frankly I'm surprised it let me get this far.
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Nice proof that you can beat baccarat.
Quote: AxelWolfSo incomplete logs only showing cherrypicked documents and some excuses.
Nice proof that you can beat baccarat.
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Once again, try to read what I write. Betting 10 cents for 8 or 10 pages of History I'm not going to copy and make pictures of all that just to post here so you can make fun of it. You must be kidding. If you don't like what I'm doing here don't come here, don't comment. If you think I'm going to change what I do because you don't like it, good luck with that. I'm not flat betting, I'm using a progression so this doesn't even count. I'm simply trying to see how many bets is going to take until the algorithm starts playing against me.
I don't dislike what you are doing. You aren't doing anything but posting up various cherry-picked gambling logs that don't show sufficient evidence that you can or have beat baccarat.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfSo incomplete logs only showing cherrypicked documents and some excuses.
Nice proof that you can beat baccarat.
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Once again, try to read what I write. Betting 10 cents for 8 or 10 pages of History I'm not going to copy and make pictures of all that just to post here so you can make fun of it. You must be kidding. If you don't like what I'm doing here don't come here, don't comment. If you think I'm going to change what I do because you don't like it, good luck with that. I'm not flat betting, I'm using a progression so this doesn't even count. I'm simply trying to see how many bets is going to take until the algorithm starts playing against me.
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If you can't figure out how to easily post the logs without individual screenshots I don't know what to say. Perhaps take a screenshot of the first and last page?
Quote: AxelWolfPerhaps take a screenshot of the first and last page?
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Dude, seriously ,READ! That's exactly what I did I posted the first and last page and just now I posted the last page because I already posted the first page. If you are reading these posts you are not comprehending them very well. And I'm not trying to prove anything with these this is just me screwing around with an RNG Baccarat game to see how long it takes before it starts to actively play against me. So far it's not trying very hard but just give it time.
My bad, i just skimmed.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfPerhaps take a screenshot of the first and last page?
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Dude, seriously ,READ! That's exactly what I did I posted the first and last page and just now I posted the last page because I already posted the first page. If you are reading these posts you are not comprehending them very well. And I'm not trying to prove anything with these this is just me screwing around with an RNG Baccarat game to see how long it takes before it starts to actively play against me. So far it's not trying very hard but just give it time.
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maybe your cats were feeling needy and hid it from you lolQuote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWuYeah, we all pestered EB forever to post results, and now he's doing it.
What's with the criticism?
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Exactly and the good news is, lots more to come. I would have posted more last night but I lost my damn phone and spent 90 minutes looking for it. That's never happened to me before and it was almost a traumatic experience. I didn't realize how attached to my phone I was. LOL
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Quote: EvenBobThey aren't even drawing down a virtual deck of cards, it resets after every outcome. Because what I'm seeing is different than what I see on a live baccarat game.
According to the techs who maintain the machines where I play, the Interblock RNG games can deal an entire eight-deck shoe, or randomly switch shoes after only a few hands.
Online games possibly do that as well.
Quote: TankoQuote: EvenBobThey aren't even drawing down a virtual deck of cards, it resets after every outcome. Because what I'm seeing is different than what I see on a live baccarat game.
According to the techs who maintain the machines where I play, the Interblock RNG games can deal an entire eight-deck shoe, or randomly switch shoes after only a few hands.
Online games possibly do that as well.
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Most online RNG games of blackjack or baccarat that I have encountered, have described in their info pages a continuous shuffle process. E.g.
I've never encountered an online RNG blackjack that does not shuffle after each round. Online live dealer games typically deal 50% or so into a six deck shoe.
Quote: TankoQuote: EvenBobThey aren't even drawing down a virtual deck of cards, it resets after every outcome. Because what I'm seeing is different than what I see on a live baccarat game.
According to the techs who maintain the machines where I play, the Interblock RNG games can deal an entire eight-deck shoe, or randomly switch shoes after only a few hands.
Online games possibly do that as well.
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You are referring to the games with real cards that are flipped pancake style each game?
Quote: darkozYou are referring to the games with real cards that are flipped pancake style each game?
I am referring to the real and virtual card Interblock games..
When the pancake shufflers are working, you can see the shoes switch, sometimes after only a few hands.
When I complained in an email about too many interruptions, they told me the random shoe switches are determined by the vendor.
The order of the cards in the shoe is held in a buffer. When the dealer arm breaks down, the cards are dealt virtually with no interruption.
When they switch, a 'Cards not Ready' message will appear on the console screen.
State law requires all games to be random. Maybe this is Interblock's way of adding another layer of randomness to the game.
Quote: TankoQuote: darkozYou are referring to the games with real cards that are flipped pancake style each game?
I am referring to the real and virtual card Interblock games..
When the pancake shufflers are working, you can see the shoes switch, sometimes after only a few hands.
When I complained in an email about too many interruptions, they told me the random shoe switches are determined by the vendor.
The order of the cards in the shoe is held in a buffer. When the dealer arm breaks down, the cards are dealt virtually with no interruption.
When they switch, a 'Cards not Ready' message will appear on the console screen.
State law requires all games to be random. Maybe this is Interblock's way of adding another layer of randomness to the game.
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If they're shuffling virtual cards in between every hand then it's the same effect as flipping a coin. It would make the outcomes even more random which is in my favor.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWu
Okay, I'll bite... If winning $1,000 is no easier or harder than winning a dime, then why aren't you winning $1,000?
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Online? How long do you think one of these casinos is going to put up with somebody consistently winning $1,000 bets and never making deposits and only making withdrawals.
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But you WILL be making deposits, because otherwise where are you getting the money to gamble with?
Quote: TankoQuote: darkozYou are referring to the games with real cards that are flipped pancake style each game?
I am referring to the real and virtual card Interblock games..
When the pancake shufflers are working, you can see the shoes switch, sometimes after only a few hands.
When I complained in an email about too many interruptions, they told me the random shoe switches are determined by the vendor.
The order of the cards in the shoe is held in a buffer. When the dealer arm breaks down, the cards are dealt virtually with no interruption.
When they switch, a 'Cards not Ready' message will appear on the console screen.
State law requires all games to be random. Maybe this is Interblock's way of adding another layer of randomness to the game.
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Yes I am familiar with those.
The cards are physical cards. When the arm breaks down the cards are virtual HOWEVER still beholden to the physical deck currently in the shoe.
Each card in the deck has a microchip (RFID?) Which is read by the machine after the randomized shuffle.
It's random. But the ORDER of the cards and winning combinations for the deck are pre-read (I don't want to call it predetermined as that suggests cheating ) so when the arms malfunction the remainder of the deck can still be dealt as if the arm hadn't broken.
I repeat myself but it's worth repeating
EB has done what nobody has ever done before
he has 𝘼𝘽𝙎𝙊𝙇𝙐𝙏𝙀𝙇𝙔 𝙋𝙍𝙊𝙑𝙀𝙉 that he can beat a minus EV game by scoping out 𝙀𝙇𝙀𝙂𝘼𝙉𝙏 𝙋𝘼𝙏𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙉𝙎 and by tapping into the 𝙂𝙇𝙊𝘽𝘼𝙇 𝙀𝙁𝙁𝙀𝘾𝙏
and he has 𝘼𝘽𝙎𝙊𝙇𝙐𝙏𝙀𝙇𝙔 𝙋𝙍𝙊𝙑𝙀𝙉 that he can 𝙍𝙀𝘼𝘿 𝙍𝘼𝙉𝘿𝙊𝙈𝙉𝙀𝙎𝙎 and that he can read it quite fluently
somebody needs to call The New York Times and/or CNN and/or Fox News so this story can get the national and international attention it deserves
this story is way too big to be kept just on WOV
and furthermore I believe he is a very strong candidate for 𝙏𝙄𝙈𝙀 𝙈𝘼𝙂𝘼𝙕𝙄𝙉𝙀'𝙎 𝙋𝙀𝙍𝙎𝙊𝙉 𝙊𝙁 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙔𝙀𝘼𝙍
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I repeat myself but it's worth repeating
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No it's not, and you know it's not. So find something new to rant about, rehashing old boring stuff is pointless.
Quote: EvenBob
So find something new to rant about
news flash -
I don't take orders from you
I'll rant about anything I want to rant about as many times as I want
lots more to come
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Quote: lilredrooster.
I repeat myself but it's worth repeating
EB has done what nobody has ever done before
he has 𝘼𝘽𝙎𝙊𝙇𝙐𝙏𝙀𝙇𝙔 𝙋𝙍𝙊𝙑𝙀𝙉 that he can beat a minus EV game by scoping out 𝙀𝙇𝙀𝙂𝘼𝙉𝙏 𝙋𝘼𝙏𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙉𝙎 and by tapping into the 𝙂𝙇𝙊𝘽𝘼𝙇 𝙀𝙁𝙁𝙀𝘾𝙏
and he has 𝘼𝘽𝙎𝙊𝙇𝙐𝙏𝙀𝙇𝙔 𝙋𝙍𝙊𝙑𝙀𝙉 that he can 𝙍𝙀𝘼𝘿 𝙍𝘼𝙉𝘿𝙊𝙈𝙉𝙀𝙎𝙎 and that he can read it quite fluently
somebody needs to call The New York Times and/or CNN and/or Fox News so this story can get the national and international attention it deserves
this story is way too big to be kept just on WOV
and furthermore I believe he is a very strong candidate for 𝙏𝙄𝙈𝙀 𝙈𝘼𝙂𝘼𝙕𝙄𝙉𝙀'𝙎 𝙋𝙀𝙍𝙎𝙊𝙉 𝙊𝙁 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙔𝙀𝘼𝙍
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This is absolute flipping nonsense.
This is what lilredrooster is claiming not what EvenBob is claiming.
It appears that you are just trying to provoke an "excrement show". Shame on you.
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It appears that you are just trying to provoke an "excrement show". Shame on you.
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It's funny after he posted that I was going to say this is the kind of crap that Gordon is tired of reading and frankly we're all tired of reading. If you can't be original in your insults just keep it to yourself. Repeating the same stuff over and over and over accomplishes nothing.
Quote: DieterQuote: EvenBobQuote: Dieter
Is this insight of when to get in and when to get out (profitably) something you can teach?
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You ever try to teach anything, it's monstrously hard. I was a history major in college as I've said here before and I wanted to be a teacher. To be a teacher you had to take classes on how to teach. Now they require a degree in how to teach. Teaching anything is not easy and I would have no idea how to teach this. And no offense, but why would I do it anyway. What do I get out of it except a lot of time spent.
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I've found the moment when a student or trainee has an epiphany and finally 'gets it' to be immensely satisfying.
I've heard similar reports from other teachers, trainers, and coaches, so I don't think it's just me.
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Absolutely. There is a sensation that comes from a moment like that. As a Senior in HS, I remember the moment when a kid I was tutoring in geometry finally saw the light.
Years later, as a Census supervisor, I had an instructor who couldn't get one particular point across to the trainees. I took over the class, but they still struggled. On the subway ride home, I decided to ditch the class instructions and approach it from a different angle.
Twenty minutes into class the next day, all but one student got it. I felt ten feet tall the rest of the day.
Even a bigger bummer when you switch games at
13:51:43 with a bank balance of $29.69 and you struggle on until
14:25:00 where you finish with $25.63
Still. A win's a win, I guess. Mustn't get greedy.
Quote: OnceDearbummer when the session is so long that it would entail showing multiple pages. Been there, got the T-shirt.
Even a bigger bummer when you switch games at
13:51:43 with a bank balance of $29.69 and you struggle on until
14:25:00 where you finish with $25.63
Still. A win's a win, I guess. Mustn't get greedy.
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It's units won that count, the money amount has nothing to do with anything. For some reason you have a hard time understanding this. I'm not playing for real money, when I play for real money you will never see those results. 40 units won is 40 units. 40 units in real money is slightly more than 40 units in the minimum amount.
Is there something wrong with the time display of your log entries? Or are you switching casinos, each with a balance of twenty something dollars?Quote: EvenBobQuote: OnceDearbummer when the session is so long that it would entail showing multiple pages. Been there, got the T-shirt.
Even a bigger bummer when you switch games at
13:51:43 with a bank balance of $29.69 and you struggle on until
14:25:00 where you finish with $25.63
Still. A win's a win, I guess. Mustn't get greedy.
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It's units won that count, the money amount has nothing to do with anything. For some reason you have a hard time understanding this. I'm not playing for real money, when I play for real money you will never see those results. 40 units won is 40 units. 40 units in real money is slightly more than 40 units in the minimum amount.
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I'm seeing a $4.06 loss over the course of the 33 minutes between 13:51:43 and 14:25:00.
Wasn't the unit size 10c?
Would that be a 40 unit loss?
Have you shown us game logs from THREE different casinos today?