Evenbobs Baccarat Thread
Quote: SOOPOOThis thread is a sewage dump infesting your theoretical gambling expert website.
And even the sewer rats are running from the stink of this thread of bogus claims
Quote: OnceDearQuote: EvenBobWhen I start posting results of minimum playing this is what it will look like.
My goal was to win two units, I bet five times, had three wins, one loss, one tie.
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Awwww. I searched Youtube and found this old guy who was aspiring to win two units by betting on trends from a baccarat marquee. Hit and run for two unit wins flat betting. Bless his poor misguided soul. At least he profits from the ad revenue to his channel.
https://youtu.be/zUat_jnGy7s?t=29
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This old guy is basically playing OTL and FTL and obviously waiting for streaks. It's barely above ploppy level of play and he even admits he saw two shoes while he was there that he would have lost his ass on. His method of play is one step above just betting totally randomly, I hope nobody tries to play that way because they'll lose.
Quote: Dieter
It sounds like you're playing your hunches.
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Hunch definition:
1.
a feeling based on intuition rather than known facts.
noun. an impression that something might be the case.
1. an intuitive feeling
an idea that is based on feeling
Nope, sorry, no hunches involved. Just educated guesses for which I already provided many explanations. Please refer to those and you will no longer be confused.
Quote: JohnzimboQuote: SOOPOOThis thread is a sewage dump infesting your theoretical gambling expert website.
And even the sewer rats are running from the stink of this thread of bogus claims
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Please explain in detail what claims I've made in this thread that are bogus. Go ahead, give it a try.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: Dieter
It sounds like you're playing your hunches.
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Hunch definition:
1.
a feeling based on intuition rather than known facts.
noun. an impression that something might be the case.
1. an intuitive feeling
an idea that is based on feeling
Nope, sorry, no hunches involved. Just educated guesses for which I already provided many explanations. Please refer to those and you will no longer be confused.
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When you're ready to explain what you're doing, I'm willing to reconsider if it's a system.
Enjoy the day.
Quote: darkoz
That video shows what the danger is to this forum. Looking at the comments section you see at least one person who believed the hype and then lost their shirt. Then comes back seeking advice what to do.
And that in a nutshell is why posters here are up in arms!
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Exactly! And we have yet to persuade Wizard that it matters that there are fools in this world that will lose their shirts trying to emulate such 'influencers'. 'This guy on WizardOfVegas persuaded me to try it'
Quote: EvenBob 03 July Bolding mine
I already told you how I win, in detail. Many times. But that's not good enough, you won't prove it to yourself so you want me to do all the work. And even if I did what you asked you would still say I fudged the results somehow so why would I bother because I'm getting zero out of it.
It's like I explained a really cool card trick to you and gave you every detail on how it's done but instead of trying it yourself you want me to send you a video of all the details. If only life were that easy.
Quote: EvenBob 19 July
... The only way you will know for sure is if you try it yourself but you never will because you'll never give it the time....
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This is how you learn how to beat roulette, nose to the grindstone due diligence and you will come to understand how the game works....
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If you want to know how it works, I tell you you and can try it but nobody will.
I do not believe that your belief is correct. Many of us do care about the integrity and reputation of this community.Quote: GordonM888 Moderator {Edit for brevity}I do not believe that any of you are motivated by concerns about the integrity of this site...
... There is no threat to integrity of this site...
Quote: Dieter
When you're ready to explain what you're doing, I'm willing to reconsider if it's a system.
Enjoy the day.
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That's exactly what I'm doing, just hang around and you'll see. Because I now realize it doesn't matter I can explain everything in the greatest detail and nobody will do it because it's too much work. I'm going to explain everything I do and post results from the casinos and you still won't believe it and you still won't even try it. Just wait, you'll see.
Quote: EvenBob
That's exactly what I'm doing, just hang around and you'll see. Because I now realize it doesn't matter I can explain everything in the greatest detail and nobody will do it because it's too much work. I'm going to explain everything I do and post results from the casinos and you still won't believe it and you still won't even try it. Just wait, you'll see.
so, to summarize:
you know what's going to happen - you're going to show winnings - and nobody will believe it - and nobody will do it
then why bother - you already know you're explanation and your posting of results will not convince anybody
seems like a total waste of time to me
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: Dieter
When you're ready to explain what you're doing, I'm willing to reconsider if it's a system.
Enjoy the day.
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That's exactly what I'm doing, just hang around and you'll see. Because I now realize it doesn't matter I can explain everything in the greatest detail and nobody will do it because it's too much work. I'm going to explain everything I do and post results from the casinos and you still won't believe it and you still won't even try it. Just wait, you'll see.
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Quote: https://answercatch.com/how-do-you-keep-an-idiot-in-suspense/
https://answercatch.com/how-do-you-keep-an-idiot-in-suspense/
How to create suspense?
There are a few things you can do to create suspense.
1. Build anticipation
2. Raise the stakes
3. Create uncertainty
4. Introduce new elements
5. Delay gratification
How to keep an idiot in suspense?
As we said before, the best way to keep an idiot in suspense is to build anticipation. But there are a few other things you can do as well.
1. Be vague
2. Speak in code
3. Be evasive
If they do ask questions, be evasive. Don’t give them a straight answer.
4. Play dumb
5. Use props
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so, to summarize:
you know what's going to happen - you're going to show winnings - and nobody will believe it - and nobody will do it
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Yep, that's it in a nutshell. Just wait, you'll see.
if a board of 7 gambling experts was convened
and their mission was to make a judgment as to whether EB has proven that his bet selection methods are capable of beating bacc after his presentation -
the chance that he could convince even one expert that he has proven that he can beat the game of bacc is:
less than one in one hundred million
.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: lilredrooster
so, to summarize:
you know what's going to happen - you're going to show winnings - and nobody will believe it - and nobody will do it
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Yep, that's it in a nutshell. Just wait, you'll see.
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Evenbob is not going to demonstrate or attempt to prove anything.
Nothing to see here.
And nothing ever happens
Nothing happens at all
The needle returns to the start of the song
And we all sing along like before..
Quote: OnceDearQuote: EvenBobQuote: Dieter
When you're ready to explain what you're doing, I'm willing to reconsider if it's a system.
Enjoy the day.
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That's exactly what I'm doing, just hang around and you'll see. Because I now realize it doesn't matter I can explain everything in the greatest detail and nobody will do it because it's too much work. I'm going to explain everything I do and post results from the casinos and you still won't believe it and you still won't even try it. Just wait, you'll see.
link to original postQuote: https://answercatch.com/how-do-you-keep-an-idiot-in-suspense/
https://answercatch.com/how-do-you-keep-an-idiot-in-suspense/
How to create suspense?
There are a few things you can do to create suspense.
1. Build anticipation
2. Raise the stakes
3. Create uncertainty
4. Introduce new elements
5. Delay gratification
How to keep an idiot in suspense?
As we said before, the best way to keep an idiot in suspense is to build anticipation. But there are a few other things you can do as well.
1. Be vague
2. Speak in code
3. Be evasive
If they do ask questions, be evasive. Don’t give them a straight answer.
4. Play dumb
5. Use props
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Love the hat.
Can't wait for the next stream!
He wouldn't try. He never does. There would be no presentation.Quote: lilredrooster.
if a board of 7 gambling experts was convened
and their mission was to make a judgment as to whether EB has proven that his bet selection methods are capable of beating bacc after his presentation -
the chance that he could convince even one expert that he has proven that he can beat the game of bacc is:
less than one in one hundred million
.
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Quote: DogHandAt least two tribal casinos in Louisiana, Coushatta Casino Resort and Paragon Casino, serve free alcoholic drinks to players.
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Thank you!
Quote: AxelWolfDo you believe EvenBob uses a Method or a System?
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I keep asking asked in Private Messages to return to this thread. I hate to give it oxygen, but I also must call out ridiculous claims too.
Let me start by saying that my definitions are not etched in granite. If you don't agree with them, I'm not saying you're wrong.
I consider methods of bet and amount selection based on past results in games in independent trials to be betting systems, which I have said many times are all equally worthless.
Betting systems can also be used in games of dependent trials if the player is not using proven advantage play to exploit information provided in past trials, but instead basing bets on worthless information like that provided to the player by the casino. I believe that to be the case here, but am open to evidence to the contrary.
Any method that uses the word "trend" is probably a betting system.
Quote: WizardQuote: AxelWolfDo you believe EvenBob uses a Method or a System?
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I keep asking asked in Private Messages to return to this thread. I hate to give it oxygen, but I also must call out ridiculous claims too.
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Thank you because I do not agree that betting on past results only is a system. A gambling system must have rules, that's what the word system means. You can have a gambling strategy or a gambling method that is not a system. I do not have rules therefore I have a strategy, a method and not a system. If you were to bet OTL or FTL on past outcomes those are considered rules and that would be a system and you would be correct to call it a system. But if you have no rules that you follow no system exists. My strategy involves no rules, none. Therefore it is not a system.
pay a lot of attention to EB
he's begging you
let him show you some results from betting $1.00
he's not just some ordinary forum poster
he has very special knowledge and abilities and talents
sure he does
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Quote: lilredrooster.
let him show you some results from betting $1.00
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It's what you people said you wanted, that's why I'm doing it. You think I don't have better things to do? I'm up to my armpits in work around here and summer's coming to an end.
Quote: EvenBobThis is from earlier this week at a Playtech Casino. I don't like their gaming history set up as much as I like the other ones. Here I bet $3 that day and won all three times.
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4 or 5 whole Cherry-picked results... ROFLMAO.Quote: lilredrooster.
let him show you some results from betting $1.00
Quote: EvenBobQuote: lilredrooster.
let him show you some results from betting $1.00
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It's what you people said you wanted, that's why I'm doing it. You think I don't have better things to do? I'm up to my armpits in work around here and summer's coming to an end.
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thank you - thank you - thank you
everybody appreciates you giving us this time when we know how much work you have to do
and please - show some more results from $1.00 bets
everybody including me is starting to come around now
I'm now able for the first time to really, really see how powerful your method is
it's undeniable
seeing is believing
.
Quote: AxelWolf4 or 5 whole Cherry-picked results... ROFLMAO.Quote: lilredrooster.
let him show you some results from betting $1.00
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And bingo! How long did that take, less than 24 hours? This is EXACTLY to the letter what I said would happen when I started posting results somebody would start saying they were Cherry Picked and lookie lookie, LOL LOL. And you say I'm no good at educated guessing? I can guess what you people are going to do like I had a crystal ball. I know what you're going to say before you say it. No matter what I do, even when you ask for it which is what you did, you're going to pick it to pieces and mock it and make fun of it and there's no way for me to prove anything that you will believe in a million years. But I'm going to keep going anyway, how do you like them apples..
Quote: lilredroosterQuote: EvenBobQuote: lilredrooster.
let him show you some results from betting $1.00
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It's what you people said you wanted, that's why I'm doing it. You think I don't have better things to do? I'm up to my armpits in work around here and summer's coming to an end.
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thank you - thank you - thank you
everybody appreciates you giving us this time when we know how much work you have to do
and please - show some more results from $1.00 bets
everybody including me is starting to come around now
I'm now able for the first time to really, really see how powerful your method is
it's undeniable
seeing is believing
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Be as clichéd as you like, cover yourself in it, roll around in it, bottom line this Is what you people asked me to do and you know damn well you did. Be careful what you ask for.
Here I made 5 bets, won 4, and tied one. Sorry guys for the tie our doggie got all lovable and wanted to lick my face, I was so very distracted during my super duper baccarat "method" session.Quote: EvenBobThis is from earlier this week at a Playtech Casino. I don't like their gaming history set up as much as I like the other ones. Here I bet $3 that day and won all three times.
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I still made much more than EvenBob and this isn't even my thing. It's all done without 20 years(or whatever) of books filled with data while honing and tailoring my educated guessing skills.
Axel Why are you playing a -EV game to show just how foolish it is for people to think they can beat -EV games with some complicated system/strategy/method that are complete BS? It's needed -EV cover play, I would have to do it one way or the other, it mixes up my play well, so it's a good thing. I don't care if I win or lose.
Yes there is a way to show non-cherry-picked results. I did with my roulette results.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf4 or 5 whole Cherry-picked results... ROFLMAO.Quote: lilredrooster.
let him show you some results from betting $1.00
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And bingo! How long did that take, less than 24 hours? This is EXACTLY to the letter what I said would happen when I started posting results somebody would start saying they were Cherry Picked and lookie lookie, LOL LOL. And you say I'm no good at educated guessing? I can guess what you people are going to do like I had a crystal ball. I know what you're going to say before you say it. No matter what I do, even when you ask for it which is what you did, you're going to pick it to pieces and mock it and make fun of it and there's no way for me to prove anything that you will believe in a million years. But I'm going to keep going anyway, how do you like them apples..
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There were entire logs showing the starting and ending of my play You could see previous games played before I
started to play roulette, you could see my starting and ending balance, and you could see where I stopped and started again. I also said that if there's any legitimate doubt it's real money, or that it's been altered cherry-picked or any shenanigans, I would show the evidence needed to Mike.
The one very important thing that was missing from my winning evidence was that I didn't clarify before I started where and when I would start. But, I'm not trying to prove I can win long-term, I'm here to prove that you are not doing anything special, you do nothing different than what poppies do, I do, or anyone does...you just make it more complicated.
I'm confident in saying that If you have any legitimate significant amounts of flat bets on Roullet YOU ARE NOT AHEAD LIFETIME and YOU WON'T BE AHEAD LIFETIME and YOUR METHOD IS NOTHING BUT A -EV SYSTEM.
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I'm confident in saying that If you have any legitimate significant amounts of flat bets on Roullet YOU ARE NOT AHEAD LIFETIME and YOU WON'T BE AHEAD LIFETIME and YOUR METHOD IS NOTHING BUT A -EV SYSTEM.
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Yawn. When you think of something new to say please post it. Most of the posts here are just the same people posting the same things over and over and over like if they keep doing it, it will actually come true. Doesn't work that way.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf
I'm confident in saying that If you have any legitimate significant amounts of flat bets on Roullet YOU ARE NOT AHEAD LIFETIME and YOU WON'T BE AHEAD LIFETIME and YOUR METHOD IS NOTHING BUT A -EV SYSTEM.
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Yawn. When you think of something new to say please post it. Most of the posts here are just the same people posting the same things over and over and over like if they keep doing it, it will actually come true. Doesn't work that way.
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This strikes me as the most ironic statement ever made on this forum!
EB nailed it_________definitive proof__________beyond a shadow of a doubt
somebody needs to inform the major media_____________show them the results of his four $1.00 bets
this event should be broadcast worldwide__________it's not fair to the rest of the world that we're the only ones who have witnessed it
.
Pagination would at least break up the action into more easily masticated bites.
It also doesn't help that people are not using the quotes right and it's getting hard to see who said what. Which is another function of how counterintuitive this forum software is.
Quote: EvenBobI bet two times and won two times.
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Big deal, anyone can cherry-pick, I'll show you. show all your play results, or it's absolutely meaningless.
I bet 4 times and won 4 times.
when you lose 15 times in a row you could conveniently leave that out.
Quote: AxelWolfQuote: EvenBobI bet two times and won two times.
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Big deal, anyone can cherry-pick, I'll show you. show all your play results, or it's absolutely meaningless.
I bet 4 times and won 4 times.
when you lose 15 times in a row you could conveniently leave that out.
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LOL, who cares. You're doing exactly what I said you would do it's not going to stop me. You asked for this and you're going to get it. I said no matter what I post as far as evidence goes you would pick it apart night and day and that's exactly what you're doing. No matter what I post it'll never be enough so you're going to have to be satisfied with what I do post.
Of course you won't stop you because it's easily done and shows nothing other than the fact that you play $1 baccarat online.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfQuote: EvenBobI bet two times and won two times.
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Big deal, anyone can cherry-pick, I'll show you. show all your play results, or it's absolutely meaningless.
I bet 4 times and won 4 times.
when you lose 15 times in a row you could conveniently leave that out.
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LOL, who cares. You're doing exactly what I said you would do it's not going to stop me. You asked for this and you're going to get it. I said no matter what I post as far as evidence goes you would pick it apart night and day and that's exactly what you're doing. No matter what I post it'll never be enough so you're going to have to be satisfied with what I do post.
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We asked for proof you can beat roulette with an 80% hit rate, whatever you are showing is meaningless and you even admitted you would cherry-pick or whatever.
Show us you can beat Baccarat with an 80% hit rate.
I would absolutely be satisfied with a legitimate challenge set in place with proper advanced protocols showing that your well-guessed bets are well above the Standard Deviation. Do you even understand how a proper experiment/gambling challenge should work? Do it correctly, and it can't be picked apart. Do it half-assed and it merits being picked apart.
But you are correct, no evidence YOU provide will be good enough because you won't provide proper convincing evidence. And why not? Because none has or will ever exist.
I just wish our doggy would quit licking my face because I got another dang tie.
Quote: EvenBobIf you were to bet OTL or FTL on past outcomes those are considered rules and that would be a system and you would be correct to call it a system.
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One True Love, Out To Lunch with a Full Truck Load?
What did you actually mean?
Quote: OnceDearQuote: EvenBobIf you were to bet OTL or FTL on past outcomes those are considered rules and that would be a system and you would be correct to call it a system.
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One True Love, Out To Lunch with a Full Truck Load?
What did you actually mean?
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I'm guessing OTL is Only The Last
FTL Follow The Last
I just found 'Follow the Leader' as a betting strategy. I wonder if OTL is 'Opposite the leader'? Academic really. Just a diversion thrown in by EB.Quote: darkozQuote: OnceDearQuote: EvenBobIf you were to bet OTL or FTL on past outcomes those are considered rules and that would be a system and you would be correct to call it a system.
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One True Love, Out To Lunch with a Full Truck Load?
What did you actually mean?
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I'm guessing OTL is Only The Last
FTL Follow The Last
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Quote: darkoz
I'm guessing OTL is Only The Last
FTL Follow The Last
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*Opposite of The Last vs Follow the Last
Quote: EvenBobI can watch the shoe and jump in and out whenever I want...
I began betting that way two years ago on the bac machines. Flat betting Banker and sitting out most hands, I lost 28 units of my 50 unit bankroll over the first 15 sessions. My lose money more slowly strategy was finally working. Then I net 65 units after commissions over the next 15 sessions, so I stuck with it.
Session 200 was on May 15th.
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Tell me this isn't a desperate cry for attention.
EB has defeated math and posted irrefutable proof. Thank him and move on.
Now that EB has posted what we can all agree is proof of everything he claimed, I'm not sure how keeping this open does anyone any good.
Quote: OnceDearQuote: EvenBobIf you were to bet OTL or FTL on past outcomes those are considered rules and that would be a system and you would be correct to call it a system.
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One True Love, Out To Lunch with a Full Truck Load?
What did you actually mean?
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Oh my God, you make comments like you're some kind of gambling expert and you don't know what those refer to? Good grief. Follow the last and other than last is gambling 101, next you'll be saying you don't know what a ploppie is.
Quote: TigerWuSo far this thread is EvenBob saying he bets the streaks in Baccarat and can sometimes win as much as $3 whole dollars in a single day..
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Do try and keep up. I'm making minimum bets to post the results here because it's none of your business what I usually bet. The minimum bets of $1 show that I'm winning because the BET amount doesn't matter, a win is a win when you're making a demonstration. God how I hate explaining the obvious..
Quote: EvenBobGod how I hate explaining the obvious..
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No you don't. You LOVE the attention.
No. Gambler's Fallacy is gambling 101 and you ain't understood that one yet.Quote: EvenBobQuote: OnceDearQuote: EvenBobIf you were to bet OTL or FTL on past outcomes those are considered rules and that would be a system and you would be correct to call it a system.
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One True Love, Out To Lunch with a Full Truck Load?
What did you actually mean?
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Oh my God, you make comments like you're some kind of gambling expert and you don't know what those refer to? Good grief. Follow the last and other than last is gambling 101, next you'll be saying you don't know what a ploppie is.
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