Astrology and Luck

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How does a mathematician rationalize luck?



Since this thread is about luck, I figured I would place it here.

By the way, partners can combine birth charts by location average or by dates.

So if a chart is not bullish for luck, an average could be.

The average doesn't have to be only two people.




These people won the lottery multiple times, taking home millions—a Harvard prof. talks odds
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When Janet Pflaumer-Phillips, 59, won $1 million from a “Diamond Millions” scratch-off lottery ticket last month, it was technically her first big lottery win. But if you count the two times her husband, Kevin Phillips, won his own separate $1 million prizes (in 2014 and 2016), then that made three wins for the couple overall, and a total of $3 million.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/31/harvard-prof-on-odds-of-winning-multiple-lotteries-like-these-people.html
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Luck or law of large numbers?

You'll notice that most of the time repeat lottery winners have something very interesting in common...

"She and her husband have been buying lottery tickets regularly for the past 20 years"

Regularly is probably a nice way of saying compulsively.
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Luck.

I should have qualified the question first as follows:

Do mathematicians usually believe in luck?
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Luck is just statistics and probability. Everything that is supposed to be...will average out eventually.

One guy ,who's "unlucky", has some really super strange accident and ends up dead...

Some guy gets "Lucky" and wins the lottery.

Lucky and unlucky is determined after the fact. If you can tell me who's going to be "Lucky" before it happens, then you have something.

I do hope I have luck in life.

As far as the casino goes, I don't depend on luck. I don't really care if I have an unfathomably unlucky day now and then.

Luck can be thought of in a different way.

Carl's quote caught my attention in regards to synchronicity:

"It also forces a basic reconsideration of the meaning of chance, probability, coincidence and the singular events in our lives."

Such as winning a lottery or jackpot.

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Synchronicity: An Acausal Connecting Principle, by Carl Gustav Jung...
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To Jung, synchronicity is a meaningful coincidence in time, a psychic factor which is independent of space and time. This revolutionary concept of synchronicity both challenges and complements the physicist's classical view of causality. It also forces a basic reconsideration of the meaning of chance, probability, coincidence and the singular events in our lives.

Jung was intrigued from early in his career with coincidences, especially those surprising juxtapositions that scientific rationality could not adequately explain. He discussed these ideas with Albert Einstein before World War I, but first used the term synchronicity in a 1930 lecture, in reference to the unusual psychological insights generated from consulting the I Ching.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronicity_(book)

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Quote: Dieter

Quote: DoubleGold

Luck.

I should have qualified the question first as follows:

Do mathematicians usually believe in luck?
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Most of the people I know use the word "luck" to describe what happens when talent meets opportunity and necessity.

Not a mathematician, but I've known a nonzero number over the years.
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Very true. Happens when detectives follow instinct. Once when I was doing oil and gas we had a whole crew looking for where a property came out of pre-1859. Those get murky. I saw something that when I saw it made me think it was the key to finding where the chain of title went. IIRC it was a name with a different spelling, which people did back then with little issue. But I was the one that found it. Now, it was chance that saw the name, but it was I will use your word "talent" that made me follow it.

Same thing happens in games like poker. Sure, you can catch a wave of cards from time to time, but you need to be skilled to last long enough in a tournament to catch that wave, Or knowing how to handicap sports. You might catch a good turn or two, but counting on luck will make you go broke.

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Here is another example of a coincidence.

It's not as major as the other I showed, but it certainly caught my attention.



The Moon can represent the maternal while the Sun and Saturn can represent the paternal.

If I compare my mother's chart to mine, her Moon is on my Sun.

In this context, my Sun doesn't represent the paternal.

But the Sun is the most important element in the solar system, so it is known as our essence (core being).

My mother's Moon placement in my chart on my Sun represents my mother in this context.

The probability is not so large, so I consider this one a sign of an underlying pattern and a minor coincidence.



In other words, she gave birth to me when her Moon lined up with the current Sun.

If we go back further, and consider 270 days prior to my birth (gestation), she became pregnant when the Sun and her Moon were going to line up at my birth.

The perigee and apogee of the Moon can be used in Astrology also, thereby associating mythology with mathematical locations.

Meaning, there is no physical body there, but can have mythological influence in a person's chart.

The name for the Moon's apogee is Black Moon Lilith and Priapus for the Moon's perigee.

Priapus is the one in play tonight.

If you want a good laugh, check some pics of Priapus.

I use both of those mathematical points for potential compatibility of an intimate partner.



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Tonight, Moon will be closest to Earth first time in 993 years
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On January 21, for the first time in 993 years. Last time, it was this close was in the year 1030. The next time it will be this close to Earth is in 345 years, in the year 2368, as per timeanddate.com.

The orbit of the Moon around the Earth is not a perfect circle. It is elliptical in shape instead, resembling a slightly stretched circle. This indicates that the distance between the Moon and Earth varies throughout a month. The closest point to Earth on the Moon's orbit is known as perigee, and the farthest point is known as apogee.
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https://www.livemint.com/science/news/tonight-moon-will-be-closest-to-earth-first-time-in-993-years-11674276231766.html

Quote: Dieter

Quote: DoubleGold

Luck.

I should have qualified the question first as follows:

Do mathematicians usually believe in luck?
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Most of the people I know use the word "luck" to describe what happens when talent meets opportunity and necessity.

Not a mathematician, but I've known a nonzero number over the years.
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After thinking about it, I think being lucky implies winning against a house edge and being unlucky is losing while the house doesn't have an edge.

So when playing in a casino, I think a person can only be lucky.

If a person loses, that's normal and not unlucky.

For example, a person cannot be unlucky entering a lottery unless they buy more than 50% of the tickets.

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Luck.

I should have qualified the question first as follows:

Do mathematicians usually believe in luck?
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As some sort of supernatural and metaphysical force? No.

As a perfectly valid colloquial adjective to describe events that have happened to yourself, or the culmination of multiple events? Sure.

Probability mostly exists to describe events before they take place or the likelihood of a particular cause resulting in a particular effect. Luck describes what happens after. You vultured ten-play UX loaded with 12x multipliers across the board and got dealt AKQJ5, with the faces all being diamonds...you didn't connect on a single hand; it's fair to say you were unlucky.

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Quote: DoubleGold

Luck.

I should have qualified the question first as follows:

Do mathematicians usually believe in luck?
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As some sort of supernatural and metaphysical force? No.

As a perfectly valid colloquial adjective to describe events that have happened to yourself, or the culmination of multiple events? Sure.

Probability mostly exists to describe events before they take place or the likelihood of a particular cause resulting in a particular effect. Luck describes what happens after. You vultured ten-play UX loaded with 12x multipliers across the board and got dealt AKQJ5, with the faces all being diamonds...you didn't connect on a single hand; it's fair to say you were unlucky.
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I was just reading this quote when you posted, LOL:

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As Nico Zographos, dealer-extraordinaire for the 'Greek Syndicate' in Deauville, Cannes, and Monte Carlo in the 1920s observed about casino gaming: "There is no such thing as luck. It is all mathematics."

https://gaming.library.unlv.edu/casinomath.html

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There is an old saying about not knowing your elbow from your a-hole.

Which I was reminded of, because of the several references in this thread about the need to know the location of Ur Anus (and Jupiter) when testing astrological strategies to see whether they can enhance your gambling winnings.

I wonder why Saturn is irrelevant?

And was it really the Great and Powerful Wizard who hijacked this thread into a discussion of "Climate Change on Mars?"
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Saturn is known for contraction (not expansion like Jupiter).

It is also known for responsibility, discipline, accountability, maturity, etc.

It can be relevant if it counters a favorable combination (Jupiter and Uranus).

A dominant Saturn location in someones chart or current transit, usually implies one that's conservative.
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I was just checking "Vegas Dave's" chart.

He got famous for sports betting with futures.

His midpoint of Uranus and Jupiter, is where his Saturn is, with an orb of about 2 degrees.