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Sleaziness all around. Now you know why I go into a casino, play my games-craps, slots and VP-collect my winnings and leave to go to dinner with my companions and then go home. If I ever get to *that* level like those in the story, check me in to the nearest mental hospital.
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Note none of that happened in a legitimate casino. I'd guess more people get murdered in churches than casinos. In my experience when a skilled player gets in trouble it's when he left the casino floor. Got drunk, went someplace with a girl, went to buy drugs, went someplace with a girl, went someplace with a girl, was careless in the parking garage or traveling between stores.
That's why usually on a road trip I prefer to stay in a roach motel miles away from any casino. Nobody at the casinos knows where I'm going when I leave. Nobody at the motel knows where I've been or about my bankroll.
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Which is exactly my point. There is enough sleaziness in the world, and there is certainly concentrated enough sleaziness in legal casinos. I don't need to be around the super concentrated sleaziness that is illegal-or even legal-home games, and all the trouble that goes with it. If I ever et to the point where I'm chasing it like that, put me on the injured reserve list.
Not to mention that if a place like that got wind of someone's advantage methods the response might be something like a throwback to old Vegas days.
As far as this,
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyThat's why usually on a road trip I prefer to stay in a roach motel miles away from any casino. Nobody at the casinos knows where I'm going when I leave. Nobody at the motel knows where I've been or about my bankroll.
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do places like that even have an in room safe? And if any in spots like North East Vegas, if that's where you mean by a roach motel, got wind of that you had anything valuable in the room, they'd cut your balls off to make you tell them where it is.
Quote: MDawgIn Vegas I have run into the occasional Bacc player who gives me a phone number and invites me to play at some back room Baccarat parlor in places like Honolulu. We do travel to HI pretty regularly and the family has a house on one of the islands, but why would I go to HI or any of the other non gaming destinations to which we travel regularly, to play Baccarat?
Not to mention that if a place like that got wind of someone's advantage methods the response might be something like a throwback to old Vegas days.
As far as this,Quote: AutomaticMonkeyThat's why usually on a road trip I prefer to stay in a roach motel miles away from any casino. Nobody at the casinos knows where I'm going when I leave. Nobody at the motel knows where I've been or about my bankroll.
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do places like that even have an in room safe? And if any in spots like North East Vegas, if that's where you mean by a roach motel, got wind of that you had anything valuable in the room, they'd cut your balls off to make you tell them where it is.
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I know an acquaintance who was in HI with the family. His entire family got mild food poisoning and was out of commission for a day. He was fine because he doesn’t eat fish and that was the food in question. He decided to look up any private poker games in town and came across a gambling den. To his better judgement, he decided to go check it out. He went on a heater at the bacc table and ran up $5K to over $65K (not MDWAG heater level, but still good). When it was time for him to cash out, they told him to go to a private room to “cash out” due to the large amount. When he was in the back room, they refused to pay him out and threatened him. He threatened to go to the police, and they said go ahead and they said “nothing good can come out of it.” They already had his drivers license and because he was scared if they were bad actors, he decided to just forfeit the cash and leave.
I am not sure if this bacc parlor you were invited to is the same one, but you’re right about not going to those. There is no point.

Creed is still around, and playing as loudly as ever.

Back to Cali, then a brief trip to Vegas to pick up some promo chips. Add up to a fair amount, $27K.
So damn hot down there though right now. Tahoe has hit mid to upper 80s too though lately.

Can't beat the VIP sky boxes at the outdoor arena, although the food is getting repetitive.

For the drinkers though, hosted bar!
It is Tahoe, and the service just doesn't compare to say, what would be at a Vegas major casino rented suite at Sofi or Allegiant.
Up here you practically need to Bring Your Own Caviar. (Available at Whole Foods.)

The difference though, is that if you're at the Superbowl, or Stanley Cup or The Rolling Stones in a stadium suite, you're amongst top players so they need to really lay it out. Up here, obviously medium or even somewhat lower rollers are being allowed entry to the sky boxes at times too.
Still, sometimes it's refreshing to be at a casino event and realize that not everyone there needed to play to the hilt to get in, because few are winning the way I am, and who wants to see people who have dumped a ton just to get VIP treatment?
Decided to just stay in Tahoe for the rest of the month at least.
There is a SF hotel always have favored, with a sauna in the suite.
Back to Tahoe by Tuesday or so.
No genuine Rolexes are made in China.
Fake Rolexes are made in different places, including in China. And anyone who knows anything much about these watches, knows that the counterfeits, even the best of them, are demonstrably different from the real thing, including in looks, movement, metallurgy and weight.
The misinformation that Rolexes or some of their parts are made in China, or their assembly occurs in China, is put out there by the counterfeiters themselves, or conspiracy theorists.
If you watch this video all the way through, you'll understand how special fine timepieces are compared to counterfeits.

whereby those who know the least about a subject sometimes appear the most confident. Listening to some of these TikTok videographers telling people, with conviction, that their $500. Chinese knockoff is the same as the real Rolex, and that the Rolex parts are mostly in fact made in China, it might be easy to think that the truth is being spoken, when it is not.
Quote: MDawgTo understand why some of these conspiracy theories seem so convincing, consider the Dunning-Kruger Effect,
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Is there a term for the opposite of the Dunning-Kruger Effect, when you are way better at something than you realized?
Like in the Karate Kid movie, when Miyagi enters Daniel as a black belt in a tournament, and he had no idea he was a black belt. But he was.
Yes. There is such a term.Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: MDawgTo understand why some of these conspiracy theories seem so convincing, consider the Dunning-Kruger Effect,
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Is there a term for the opposite of the Dunning-Kruger Effect, when you are way better at something than you realized?
Like in the Karate Kid movie, when Miyagi enters Daniel as a black belt in a tournament, and he had no idea he was a black belt. But he was.
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It is called The Dunning-Kruger Effect. Which also states that those with a high level of ability/knowledge/understanding of something tend to be individuals who will underestimate their competence in the subject at issue. So, the mirror image of those likely to be making the most noise on, say, social media sites, chat boards, become the most prolific posters on forums, etc.
As I've always said anyway, even if the fakes may get close (although in reality, the closer you look, the more apparent it becomes that they are not close at all), in any case -
you may fake the watch, but can you fake how it makes you feel?
Quote: MDawgYes, and that's the other half of that Rolex itself and Rolex owners aren't crowing as loudly about how great Rolexes are, as are the oddballs on TikTok who are declaring that their Chinese fakes are comparable and that Rolexes are mostly made in China anyway.
As I've always said anyway, even if the fakes may get close (although in reality, the closer you look, the more apparent it becomes that they are not close at all), in any case -
you may fake the watch, but can you fake how it makes you feel?
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If it tells time accurately enough, I don't care if it's real, fake, Memorex or from Mars. I feel good with an accurate watch on my wrist.
Quote: MDawgYes, and that's the other half of that Rolex itself and Rolex owners aren't crowing as loudly about how great Rolexes are, as are the oddballs on TikTok who are declaring that their Chinese fakes are comparable and that Rolexes are mostly made in China anyway.
As I've always said anyway, even if the fakes may get close (although in reality, the closer you look, the more apparent it becomes that they are not close at all), in any case -
you may fake the watch, but can you fake how it makes you feel?
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I'm convinced that a considerable amount of the "how it makes you feel" comes from other people treating you differently after they notice the thing that says Rolex on your wrist.
Quote: DieterQuote: MDawgYes, and that's the other half of that Rolex itself and Rolex owners aren't crowing as loudly about how great Rolexes are, as are the oddballs on TikTok who are declaring that their Chinese fakes are comparable and that Rolexes are mostly made in China anyway.
As I've always said anyway, even if the fakes may get close (although in reality, the closer you look, the more apparent it becomes that they are not close at all), in any case -
you may fake the watch, but can you fake how it makes you feel?
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I'm convinced that a considerable amount of the "how it makes you feel" comes from other people treating you differently after they notice the thing that says Rolex on your wrist.
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Buy a fake dial and fool them all.
Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: DieterQuote: MDawgYes, and that's the other half of that Rolex itself and Rolex owners aren't crowing as loudly about how great Rolexes are, as are the oddballs on TikTok who are declaring that their Chinese fakes are comparable and that Rolexes are mostly made in China anyway.
As I've always said anyway, even if the fakes may get close (although in reality, the closer you look, the more apparent it becomes that they are not close at all), in any case -
you may fake the watch, but can you fake how it makes you feel?
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I'm convinced that a considerable amount of the "how it makes you feel" comes from other people treating you differently after they notice the thing that says Rolex on your wrist.
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Buy a fake dial and fool them all.
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Even when I was 12 and roaming the street markets, "copy watches" didn't look like the real thing. Some of the pricier ones were decent watches, but even an unsophisticated rube could tell at a glance they weren't the real thing.
I wouldn't count on a knockoff impressing anyone who can benefit you. It's probably better to get a stylish $40 watch.
Quote: DieterQuote: MDawgYes, and that's the other half of that Rolex itself and Rolex owners aren't crowing as loudly about how great Rolexes are, as are the oddballs on TikTok who are declaring that their Chinese fakes are comparable and that Rolexes are mostly made in China anyway.
As I've always said anyway, even if the fakes may get close (although in reality, the closer you look, the more apparent it becomes that they are not close at all), in any case -
you may fake the watch, but can you fake how it makes you feel?
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I'm convinced that a considerable amount of the "how it makes you feel" comes from other people treating you differently after they notice the thing that says Rolex on your wrist.
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You really think that the guy wearing a two or three million dollar Richard Mille feels the same as the guy wearing the $899. knock off? regardless of whether less knowing people he encounters don't recognize the counterfeit? I doubt most people would even know what a Richard Mille is about anyway.
Another example - among Rolex Day Dates I wear only yellow gold ones or platinum ones. Why platinum, when white gold looks almost the same? I like the weight on my wrist. And I like knowing I have the best, the platinum ones on average cost about twenty grand more than the white gold version of the same. And the ones who will recognize that I am wearing platinum versus white gold - are my peer group. The rest, I don't care about, I'd rather that the general public not even recognize that I am wearing a precious metal watch at all and think it is stainless.
Yes, this
Quote: DieterI wouldn't count on a knockoff impressing anyone who can benefit you. It's probably better to get a stylish $40 watch.
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is along the lines of what I am saying above.
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You really think that the guy wearing a two or three million dollar Richard Mille feels the same as the guy wearing the $899. knock off? regardless of whether less knowing people he encounters don't recognize the counterfeit? I doubt most people would even know what a Richard Mille is about anyway.
Another example - among Rolex Day Dates I wear only yellow gold ones or platinum ones. Why platinum, when white gold looks almost the same? I like the weight on my wrist. And I like knowing I have the best, the platinum ones on average cost about twenty grand more than the white gold version of the same. And the ones who will recognize that I am wearing platinum versus white gold - are my peer group. The rest, I don't care about, I'd rather that the general public not even recognize that I am wearing a precious metal watch at all and think it is stainless.
Yes, thisQuote: DieterI wouldn't count on a knockoff impressing anyone who can benefit you. It's probably better to get a stylish $40 watch.
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is along the lines of what I am saying above.
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I doubt that the difference in "feel" between the guy wearing the million dollar watch vs the thousand dollar watch is due to the watch. Like any other badge, earning the badge gives you the feeling of worth; merely displaying it does not.
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Even when I was 12 and roaming the street markets, "copy watches" didn't look like the real thing. Some of the pricier ones were decent watches, but even an unsophisticated rube could tell at a glance they weren't the real thing.
I wouldn't count on a knockoff impressing anyone who can benefit you. It's probably better to get a stylish $40 watch.
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I wish I could find the fake gold and really fake looking fake watches these days!
In the casino I often like to present myself as a fake frivolous fool, trying to show off like a high roller. Not someone to be taken seriously.

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Quote: MDawg
You really think that the guy wearing a two or three million dollar Richard Mille feels the same as the guy wearing the $899. knock off? regardless of whether less knowing people he encounters don't recognize the counterfeit? I doubt most people would even know what a Richard Mille is about anyway.
Another example - among Rolex Day Dates I wear only yellow gold ones or platinum ones. Why platinum, when white gold looks almost the same? I like the weight on my wrist. And I like knowing I have the best, the platinum ones on average cost about twenty grand more than the white gold version of the same. And the ones who will recognize that I am wearing platinum versus white gold - are my peer group. The rest, I don't care about, I'd rather that the general public not even recognize that I am wearing a precious metal watch at all and think it is stainless.
Yes, thisQuote: DieterI wouldn't count on a knockoff impressing anyone who can benefit you. It's probably better to get a stylish $40 watch.
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is along the lines of what I am saying above.
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I doubt that the difference in "feel" between the guy wearing the million dollar watch vs the thousand dollar watch is due to the watch. Like any other badge, earning the badge gives you the feeling of worth; merely displaying it does not.
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Well sure, there's that too, but what I mean is that someone who may afford to spend only $500. on a watch and wants to wear a watch would probably get a better feeling, about himself or otherwise, spending that on a nice Seiko, than on a counterfeit Rolex.
As far as luxury items in general are concerned, either they mean something to you or they do not.
Personally, I will go the extra mile to get say, Purple Label Ralph Lauren, but I'm not typically the guy who would wear clothing with the designer's logo all over it. The quality and being Made in Italy or France, I want, but not the loud exclamation of what brand it is.
I'll wear for example Hermes animal hide jackets but what I like about their stuff is that typically their logo is visible only in the lining, inside.
What does someone who wears counterfeits get as far as positive feeling? Other than maybe feeling like "I have something that somewhat looks like the real thing at a fraction of the cost," but to anyone who knows, that person is merely wearing a fake and making a fool of himself - buying into the whole designer racket more so than rebelling against it.
In SooPoo's mom's case, that was a relatively harmless exercise in buying something that probably didn't mean a whole lot to her either way, probably she just got a bang out of it. Different from these TikTok guys who come on there talking about buying supercounterfeits for $500. or even more, and lying about how they are virtually identical to the real thing.
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Plus the ‘salesmen’ are probably here illegally as well. Many ‘fringe of society’ type activities are similar, like bootleg liquor, prostitution, illegal drugs, etc.
Most people, if they don’t see a visible DIRECT connection, tend to ignore such.
Quote: SOOPOOMy mom, raising me and my sister, certainly didn’t have money for a Rolex. She worked midtown Manhattan where the counterfeit watch sellers roamed the streets in the 1970’s. One day she comes home to show me her new ‘Bolex’. It looked like a Rolex but the ‘R’ was extended to look more like a ‘B’. It told time, and she liked it, so it was worth the $20 she spent on it. Anyone who knew her would absolutely know it wasn’t a real Rolex!
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I remember all that. Many of them used to present themselves like stereotypical stolen goods vendors and pretend/imply it was stolen property they were selling, because people who would be willing to pay $100 for a stolen Rolex worth thousands won't be willing to pay $100 for a fake Rolex worth $20.

Strip inside casinos (the Majors) last night pretty busy. Rained a bit. Weather will be hot today but bearable (high of 93 predicted, only about 78 right now).
Talk of Resorts World implosion - walked through there too last night around 9:30pm was very busy, no sign of implosion.