Was down about -100K came back to about -20K should have left it alone. But I didn’t.
-195000
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And this is the MDawg challenge.
Never down. Always up.
+45000
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Was down about -30K at the lowest but, pffft.
+41000
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Was down as much as -200K came back from that with difficulty.
+5000
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Quote: MDawgThis Vegas trip has been concluded.
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Well freaking done! You took the casinos to the cleaners your last few trips! Do you have a stopping point when you’re up/down $XXXK amount? Or do you just go by your gut feelings?
As a result I did have a few big losing days but most of the time I came back from a loss to end the day with a win.
I do have a general rule though about if I’m really deep in the hole and come back to even I stop. I broke that rule one day and ended up losing really big.
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I knew if I waited long enough, someone would post something useful..Proper handling of sales tax prevents disputes. A wiser sentence may never have been uttered.
But finally I don’t want the responsibility even if it’s just assumed for someone else’s action. If they do win too by following me that might draw more attention to me as well which isn’t good either.
I’ve always preferred playing alone and ever since I got reserved tables I’ve been able to keep others away.
Make a couple people into hundred thousandaires. Would be a net social positive. Even better film it and make a ton of money on youtube from the plays.
Quote: MDawgThese last couple runs more than ever I ran into people who wanted to latch onto me and mirror my bets. But first of all - most of them lacked the ability or willingness to bet big the way I do at times. As well, my limits are special so I’m able to bet more than any regular player.
But finally I don’t want the responsibility even if it’s just assumed for someone else’s action. If they do win too by following me that might draw more attention to me as well which isn’t good either.
I’ve always preferred playing alone and ever since I got reserved tables I’ve been able to keep others away.
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That's happened to me before and I don't like it either. I don't bet big but I do win and people see it and they start piggybacking my bets. I don't like the attention either so I just usually quit playing or go away and come back. But that was years ago I haven't been to a casino since 2019. In downtown Vegas years ago I had a guy follow me around different casinos downtown and I couldn't get rid of him. I finally went up to my room and came back down a few hours later and saw him walking around the roulette tables and I think he was looking for me. So I followed him for a while until he eventually gave up. The whole thing was kind of spooky.
What is interesting is in the past on public tables I’ve been on runs winning hand after hand and others at the table might just watch or step in for just a couple of wins. Baccarat players sometimes have this feeling that it’s already too late and the run is over. I might be aware of a section where one side or the other is favored that turns into a longer run than expected and after winning a few in a row I’ll just ride it pressing all the way.
You just have to time the "stays" so that there is at least 48 hours between them. Don't even necessarily use the rooms, just have to book them, either leave them empty or allow friends to use.
They had a pretty good one set for one of the luxury retailers at forum shops, that they cancelled, perhaps because some bean counter decided they were giving away too much lately.
One thing Caesars doesn't seem to have much if any of, is tournaments.
I was banned from playing in one of the majors. I am not 86ed from the property but cannot play in the casino. I made polite inquiries but got nowhere.
Quote: MDawgI didn’t want to post about this right after it happened although I did discuss it with Wizard right after.
I was banned from playing in one of the majors. I am not 86ed from the property but cannot play in the casino. I made polite inquiries but got nowhere.
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Most of the time when a Counter gets backed off They inquire or are instructed No Blackjack, Slots ok.
Could you play slots, or all games off limits?
Quote: MDawgIt wasn’t a “back off.” It didn’t happen right after playing. The decision was made just before arrival on a scheduled trip or at least that’s when I was told.
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I understand, once again I have given A jumble response.
What I was After was did they say no Punto Blanko, no Blackjack or
no Everything?
The chips were all 1000s and 5000s, play until you lose. For the 50K winners, they got seven 5000s, fifteen 1000s. I was supposed to get twenty 5000s, fifty 1000s, but somehow ended to with $145K - one of the $50K winners got $55K due to an inability to divide all the 5000 chips precisely.
I hung around to see what people were doing with their promos. One person I watched played double deck blackjack with them, sequentially betting the fifteen 1000s, then all seven 5000s. That person barely managed to clear $20K out of the chips - every one of the 5000s lost.
I used them at Baccarat, actually ran them all the way to $250K in real chips. I had to pay some commission out of that, so net was about $243K. While I was playing a pit boss told me about someone who had won 500K in promos before, ran them to $3M at Baccarat and was never seen again (good for that person! well done).
I think over 2.5X with promo chips is pretty good. I am not aware (yet) of anyone else who ran their promo chips and won that much relatively, from that tournament.
And on top of that, that particular day, I won over $70K at my table just waiting for each tournament round, at just that one casino. I recorded that win in my session reports - not the $243K, until now.
I did luck out on one of the tournament tables - 2/3 advanced from that table, and only 3 showed up (other two players were absent). On the semi table that got me to the final table, there were 3 of us (standard, everyone showed up, was meant to be 3 players only), with 1 advancing, but both blew out to where there was only one opponent standing at the end, with only 1000 in chips, while I had about 20K, so it was no contest.
At the final table, six of us, four blew out by the final hand, and I won the final hand (secret bet), and the other player lost with all in.
Anyway, for anyone who has won a tournament, with PROMO (play until you lose) chips, what is the usual % recovery? I would estimate 50% (casino does not allow "rinsing" bets - no black/red simultaneous, no Player/Bank simultaneous - chips must be played). But I think the low recovery partly has to do with that only 1000s and 5000s were distributed, which doesn't leave as much variety as might be normally expected for bet size selection. Also might have to do with that a player with promo chips might just throw them out there, not caring as much as if it were his own cash.
If everyone who went to the casino with a 50K or 150K bankroll were expected to lose half, that would be horrible. Why would promo chips be any different?
(quote truncated - bold added)Quote: MDawgDuring a recent trip I won a tournament. Free entry, invite only, the usual deal. Pursuant to a chop agreement, I got 150K of promo chips (it was a winner take all tournament, the others at my table got 50K - we had agreed to do it this way, with the winner getting the most - a chop agreement).
The chips were all 1000s and 5000s, play until you lose. For the 50K winners, they got seven 5000s, fifteen 1000s. I got fourteen 5000s, thirty 1000s.
Congrats! Awesome win. After the chop agreement did you walk with $150k or $100k?
Quote: MDawgAnyway, for anyone who has won a tournament, with PROMO (play until you lose) chips, what is the usual % recovery? I would estimate 50% (casino does not allow "rinsing" bets - no black/red simultaneous, no Player/Bank simultaneous - chips must be played). But I think the low recovery partly has to do with that only 1000s and 5000s were distributed, which doesn't leave as much variety as might be normally expected for bet size selection. Also might have to do with that a player with promo chips might just throw them out there, not caring as much as if it were his own cash.
If everyone who went to the casino with a 50K or 150K bankroll were expected to lose half, that would be horrible. Why would promo chips be any different?
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The Wizard has an article showing the value (he calls them non negotiable chips): https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/promotional-chips/
They are worth almost face value at baccarat or BJ, so you can expect to convert them into almost the face amount of regular chips as you lose them.
I would expect the promo chips to be the same value as regular chips in that they are play until you lose (may also be placed on greater than even money bets).
But does the fact that you get only 1000s and 5000s in an approximately 2:1 ratio make a difference?
Quote: MDawgThanks! Yes I got $150K of promos.
I would expect the promo chips to be the same value as regular chips in that they are play until you lose (may also be placed on greater than even money bets).
But does the fact that you get only 1000s and 5000s in an approximately 2:1 ratio make a difference?
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Doesn’t make a difference to the value, but does make the outcomes more likely to be variable and extreme (to the upside or downside).
14*5k + 30*1k =100 K. So think you just wrote the wrong number of chips you got for winning if it was $150k. No biggie.
C.Change I was determined to see what exactly I could do with just the promo chips.
Quote: ChumpChangeI'd just mix the promo chips in with my usual chips and when my progressions brought me to betting levels that allowed use of promo chips, I'd use promo chips and probably throw in some regular chips so I can proceed with my regular progression. I like that promo chips are play 'til you lose, but regular chips are like that too.
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I would suggest not holding the promo chips until your progression allowed it.
I have a hunch your results will be better if you convert the promo chips to cashable chips before you start losing cash-money chips.
Quote: unJonDoesn’t make a difference to the value, but does make the outcomes more likely to be variable and extreme (to the upside or downside).
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There is also the “don’t care!” factor - of willingness to lay the big chips out there because it’s all free money. Combine that with knowledge of an advantage hand and the results could be nice. This worked for me.
However there is as well the “Damn! I better get something out of these chips” factor if many are already gone with not much positive results that may lead to hasty tilted bets. I was told this happened with a player who put all remaining chips out there (and lost) after all the prior bets had resulted in not much wins. In that case it was during blackjack play where perhaps the count was really unfavorable.
A Los Angeles County jury says Starbucks is liable for injuries of a customer burned during a botched drive-through drink handoff — to the tune of $50 million.
cf: Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants
Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants, also known as the McDonald's coffee case and the hot coffee lawsuit, was a highly publicized 1994 product liability lawsuit in the United States against the McDonald's restaurant chain.
The plaintiff, Stella Liebeck (1912–2004), a 79-year-old woman, purchased hot coffee from a McDonald's restaurant, accidentally spilled it in her lap, and suffered third-degree burns in her pelvic region. She was hospitalized for eight days while undergoing skin grafting, followed by two years of medical treatment. Liebeck sought to settle with McDonald's for $20,000 to cover her medical expenses. When McDonald's refused, Liebeck's attorney filed suit in the U.S. District Court for the District of New Mexico, accusing McDonald's of gross negligence.
Liebeck's attorneys argued that, at 180–190 °F (82–88 °C), McDonald's coffee was defective, and more likely to cause serious injury than coffee served at any other establishment. The jury found that McDonald's was 80 percent responsible for the incident. They awarded Liebeck a net $160,000 in compensatory damages to cover medical expenses, and $2.7 million (equivalent to $5,700,000 in 2024) in punitive damages, the equivalent of two days of McDonald's coffee sales. The trial judge reduced the punitive damages to three times the amount of the compensatory damages, totaling $640,000. The parties settled for a confidential amount before an appeal was decided.
Quote: MDawgL.A. man scalded by Starbucks drinks is awarded $50 million
A Los Angeles County jury says Starbucks is liable for injuries of a customer burned during a botched drive-through drink handoff — to the tune of $50 million.
cf: Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants
Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants, also known as the McDonald's coffee case and the hot coffee lawsuit, was a highly publicized 1994 product liability lawsuit in the United States against the McDonald's restaurant chain.
The plaintiff, Stella Liebeck (1912–2004), a 79-year-old woman, purchased hot coffee from a McDonald's restaurant, accidentally spilled it in her lap, and suffered third-degree burns in her pelvic region. She was hospitalized for eight days while undergoing skin grafting, followed by two years of medical treatment. Liebeck sought to settle with McDonald's for $20,000 to cover her medical expenses. When McDonald's refused, Liebeck's attorney filed suit in the U.S. District Court for the District of New Mexico, accusing McDonald's of gross negligence.
Liebeck's attorneys argued that, at 180–190 °F (82–88 °C), McDonald's coffee was defective, and more likely to cause serious injury than coffee served at any other establishment. The jury found that McDonald's was 80 percent responsible for the incident. They awarded Liebeck a net $160,000 in compensatory damages to cover medical expenses, and $2.7 million (equivalent to $5,700,000 in 2024) in punitive damages, the equivalent of two days of McDonald's coffee sales. The trial judge reduced the punitive damages to three times the amount of the compensatory damages, totaling $640,000. The parties settled for a confidential amount before an appeal was decided.
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I've seen photos of the McDonald's woman scalded. The.damage was horrendous. It wasn't an ouch that hurt moment. It was life threatening
Research the real story behind that. Most people think it was just some scammy money grab. McDonald's was on notice and knew their coffee was too hot (up to 190°F.), and yet they purposely served it like that anyways because it saved them money.Quote: darkozQuote: MDawgL.A. man scalded by Starbucks drinks is awarded $50 million
A Los Angeles County jury says Starbucks is liable for injuries of a customer burned during a botched drive-through drink handoff — to the tune of $50 million.
cf: Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants
Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants, also known as the McDonald's coffee case and the hot coffee lawsuit, was a highly publicized 1994 product liability lawsuit in the United States against the McDonald's restaurant chain.
The plaintiff, Stella Liebeck (1912–2004), a 79-year-old woman, purchased hot coffee from a McDonald's restaurant, accidentally spilled it in her lap, and suffered third-degree burns in her pelvic region. She was hospitalized for eight days while undergoing skin grafting, followed by two years of medical treatment. Liebeck sought to settle with McDonald's for $20,000 to cover her medical expenses. When McDonald's refused, Liebeck's attorney filed suit in the U.S. District Court for the District of New Mexico, accusing McDonald's of gross negligence.
Liebeck's attorneys argued that, at 180–190 °F (82–88 °C), McDonald's coffee was defective, and more likely to cause serious injury than coffee served at any other establishment. The jury found that McDonald's was 80 percent responsible for the incident. They awarded Liebeck a net $160,000 in compensatory damages to cover medical expenses, and $2.7 million (equivalent to $5,700,000 in 2024) in punitive damages, the equivalent of two days of McDonald's coffee sales. The trial judge reduced the punitive damages to three times the amount of the compensatory damages, totaling $640,000. The parties settled for a confidential amount before an appeal was decided.
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I've seen photos of the McDonald's woman scalded. The.damage was horrendous. It wasn't an ouch that hurt moment. It was life threatening
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She originally just asked for around 20k for medical bills, but they offered her less than 1k.
Quote: MDawgDuring a recent trip I won a tournament. Free entry, invite only, the usual deal. Pursuant to a chop agreement, I got 145K of promo chips (it was a winner take all tournament, the others at my table got 50K - we had agreed to do it this way, with the winner getting the most - a chop agreement).
The chips were all 1000s and 5000s, play until you lose. For the 50K winners, they got seven 5000s, fifteen 1000s. I was supposed to get twenty 5000s, fifty 1000s, but somehow ended to with $145K - one of the $50K winners got $55K due to an inability to divide all the 5000 chips precisely.
I hung around to see what people were doing with their promos. One person I watched played double deck blackjack with them, sequentially betting the fifteen 1000s, then all seven 5000s. That person barely managed to clear $20K out of the chips - every one of the 5000s lost.
I used them at Baccarat, actually ran them all the way to $250K in real chips. I had to pay some commission out of that, so net was about $243K. While I was playing a pit boss told me about someone who had won 500K in promos before, ran them to $3M at Baccarat and was never seen again (good for that person! well done).
I think over 2.5X with promo chips is pretty good. I am not aware (yet) of anyone else who ran their promo chips and won that much relatively, from that tournament.
And on top of that, that particular day, I won over $70K at my table just waiting for each tournament round, at just that one casino. I recorded that win in my session reports - not the $243K, until now.
I did luck out on one of the tournament tables - 2/3 advanced from that table, and only 3 showed up (other two players were absent). On the semi table that got me to the final table, there were 3 of us (standard, everyone showed up, was meant to be 3 players only), with 1 advancing, but both blew out to where there was only one opponent standing at the end, with only 1000 in chips, while I had about 20K, so it was no contest.
At the final table, six of us, four blew out by the final hand, and I won the final hand (secret bet), and the other player lost with all in.
Anyway, for anyone who has won a tournament, with PROMO (play until you lose) chips, what is the usual % recovery? I would estimate 50% (casino does not allow "rinsing" bets - no black/red simultaneous, no Player/Bank simultaneous - chips must be played). But I think the low recovery partly has to do with that only 1000s and 5000s were distributed, which doesn't leave as much variety as might be normally expected for bet size selection. Also might have to do with that a player with promo chips might just throw them out there, not caring as much as if it were his own cash.
If everyone who went to the casino with a 50K or 150K bankroll were expected to lose half, that would be horrible. Why would promo chips be any different?
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Some casinos still allow rinsing. My last tourney I placed, we all split the amount and went to the craps table and did the pass/don't pass rinsing. We unfortunately lost the last roll with promo chip, but we converted 95% of our promo chips into real chips. The best I've done personally is 3X at Mandalay while betting 5K chips at the blackjack table. Had a split, resplit and a couple of double down situation that worked in my favor.
Quote: MDawgDuring a recent trip I won a tournament. Free entry, invite only, the usual deal. Pursuant to a chop agreement, I got 145K of promo chips (it was a winner take all tournament, the others at my table got 50K - we had agreed to do it this way, with the winner getting the most - a chop agreement).
The chips were all 1000s and 5000s, play until you lose. For the 50K winners, they got seven 5000s, fifteen 1000s. I was supposed to get twenty 5000s, fifty 1000s, but somehow ended to with $145K - one of the $50K winners got $55K due to an inability to divide all the 5000 chips precisely.
I hung around to see what people were doing with their promos. One person I watched played double deck blackjack with them, sequentially betting the fifteen 1000s, then all seven 5000s. That person barely managed to clear $20K out of the chips - every one of the 5000s lost.
I used them at Baccarat, actually ran them all the way to $250K in real chips. I had to pay some commission out of that, so net was about $243K. While I was playing a pit boss told me about someone who had won 500K in promos before, ran them to $3M at Baccarat and was never seen again (good for that person! well done).
I think over 2.5X with promo chips is pretty good. I am not aware (yet) of anyone else who ran their promo chips and won that much relatively, from that tournament.
And on top of that, that particular day, I won over $70K at my table just waiting for each tournament round, at just that one casino. I recorded that win in my session reports - not the $243K, until now.
I did luck out on one of the tournament tables - 2/3 advanced from that table, and only 3 showed up (other two players were absent). On the semi table that got me to the final table, there were 3 of us (standard, everyone showed up, was meant to be 3 players only), with 1 advancing, but both blew out to where there was only one opponent standing at the end, with only 1000 in chips, while I had about 20K, so it was no contest.
At the final table, six of us, four blew out by the final hand, and I won the final hand (secret bet), and the other player lost with all in.
Anyway, for anyone who has won a tournament, with PROMO (play until you lose) chips, what is the usual % recovery? I would estimate 50% (casino does not allow "rinsing" bets - no black/red simultaneous, no Player/Bank simultaneous - chips must be played). But I think the low recovery partly has to do with that only 1000s and 5000s were distributed, which doesn't leave as much variety as might be normally expected for bet size selection. Also might have to do with that a player with promo chips might just throw them out there, not caring as much as if it were his own cash.
If everyone who went to the casino with a 50K or 150K bankroll were expected to lose half, that would be horrible. Why would promo chips be any different?
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Some casinos still allow rinsing. My last tourney I placed, we all split the amount and went to the craps table and did the pass/don't pass rinsing. We unfortunately lost the last roll with promo chip, but we converted 95% of our promo chips into real chips. The best I've done personally is 3X at Mandalay while betting 5K chips at the blackjack table. Had a split, resplit and a couple of double down situation that worked in my favor.
Quote: MDawgDuring a recent trip I won a tournament. Free entry, invite only, the usual deal. Pursuant to a chop agreement, I got 145K of promo chips (it was a winner take all tournament, the others at my table got 50K - we had agreed to do it this way, with the winner getting the most - a chop agreement).
The chips were all 1000s and 5000s, play until you lose. For the 50K winners, they got seven 5000s, fifteen 1000s. I was supposed to get twenty 5000s, fifty 1000s, but somehow ended to with $145K - one of the $50K winners got $55K due to an inability to divide all the 5000 chips precisely.
I hung around to see what people were doing with their promos. One person I watched played double deck blackjack with them, sequentially betting the fifteen 1000s, then all seven 5000s. That person barely managed to clear $20K out of the chips - every one of the 5000s lost.
I used them at Baccarat, actually ran them all the way to $250K in real chips. I had to pay some commission out of that, so net was about $243K. While I was playing a pit boss told me about someone who had won 500K in promos before, ran them to $3M at Baccarat and was never seen again (good for that person! well done).
I think over 2.5X with promo chips is pretty good. I am not aware (yet) of anyone else who ran their promo chips and won that much relatively, from that tournament.
And on top of that, that particular day, I won over $70K at my table just waiting for each tournament round, at just that one casino. I recorded that win in my session reports - not the $243K, until now.
I did luck out on one of the tournament tables - 2/3 advanced from that table, and only 3 showed up (other two players were absent). On the semi table that got me to the final table, there were 3 of us (standard, everyone showed up, was meant to be 3 players only), with 1 advancing, but both blew out to where there was only one opponent standing at the end, with only 1000 in chips, while I had about 20K, so it was no contest.
At the final table, six of us, four blew out by the final hand, and I won the final hand (secret bet), and the other player lost with all in.
Anyway, for anyone who has won a tournament, with PROMO (play until you lose) chips, what is the usual % recovery? I would estimate 50% (casino does not allow "rinsing" bets - no black/red simultaneous, no Player/Bank simultaneous - chips must be played). But I think the low recovery partly has to do with that only 1000s and 5000s were distributed, which doesn't leave as much variety as might be normally expected for bet size selection. Also might have to do with that a player with promo chips might just throw them out there, not caring as much as if it were his own cash.
If everyone who went to the casino with a 50K or 150K bankroll were expected to lose half, that would be horrible. Why would promo chips be any different?
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Some casinos still allow rinsing. My last tourney I placed, we all split the amount and went to the craps table and did the pass/don't pass rinsing. We unfortunately lost the last roll with promo chip, but we converted 95% of our promo chips into real chips. The best I've done personally is 3X at Mandalay while betting 5K chips at the blackjack table. Had a split, resplit and a couple of double down situation that worked in my favor.
?Quote: SiegfriedRoyconverted 95% of our promo chips into real chips.
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If you
- betting both sides simultaneously - I'd assume you'd simply end up with about a fifty percent conversion rate?Quote: SiegfriedRoydid the pass/don't pass rinsing
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More or less the same as if you were allowed to bet Bank and Player simultaneously, how could you ever achieve better than 50% let alone 95%?
The reason I achieved a better than even 1X conversion is because I played the chips and won, I did not rinse them.
If you bet $5K on pass and $5K on don’t pass, you will eventually win one and lose the other at a 1:1 pay.
Let’s say in the scenario, it’s a come out roll, and shooter throws a 7. I will win the $5K pass line for $5K, and lose the $5K promo chip on Don’t pass. I just pick up the winning $5K chip, and put down another $5K promo chip on don’t pass. I keep doing rinsing this method until I am left with just one promo chip and I can’t play two sides anymore. I have to bet either pass or don’t pass at the time. If I lose, I’ve successfully converted $95K of promote chips. If I win, the last promo chip, I can keep playing till I lose therefore I can convert more than $100K. The craps pass/dont pass line rinsing method was actually taught to me by a pit boss I was close with. He discretely pulled me aside when I was trying to wash these chips at a no commission baccarat table. He said in the case banker wins with 3rd card equalling 7, I’d only be paid half, so craps is the better method.
In any case, if it were allowed (it is not) betting them both sides at regular commission baccarat would work the same.
Quote: SiegfriedRoyThese promo chips were play till you lose chips. Let’s assume I have quantity of twenty (20) $5000 promo chips equalling $100K in play till you lose promo chips.
If you bet $5K on pass and $5K on don’t pass, you will eventually win one and lose the other at a 1:1 pay.
Let’s say in the scenario, it’s a come out roll, and shooter throws a 7. I will win the $5K pass line for $5K, and lose the $5K promo chip on Don’t pass. I just pick up the winning $5K chip, and put down another $5K promo chip on don’t pass. I keep doing rinsing this method until I am left with just one promo chip and I can’t play two sides anymore. I have to bet either pass or don’t pass at the time. If I lose, I’ve successfully converted $95K of promote chips. If I win, the last promo chip, I can keep playing till I lose therefore I can convert more than $100K. The craps pass/dont pass line rinsing method was actually taught to me by a pit boss I was close with. He discretely pulled me aside when I was trying to wash these chips at a no commission baccarat table. He said in the case banker wins with 3rd card equalling 7, I’d only be paid half, so craps is the better method.
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1/36 of the time you’ll lose the pass promo chip without winning the don’t pass promo chip.
Quote: unJonQuote: SiegfriedRoyThese promo chips were play till you lose chips. Let’s assume I have quantity of twenty (20) $5000 promo chips equalling $100K in play till you lose promo chips.
If you bet $5K on pass and $5K on don’t pass, you will eventually win one and lose the other at a 1:1 pay.
Let’s say in the scenario, it’s a come out roll, and shooter throws a 7. I will win the $5K pass line for $5K, and lose the $5K promo chip on Don’t pass. I just pick up the winning $5K chip, and put down another $5K promo chip on don’t pass. I keep doing rinsing this method until I am left with just one promo chip and I can’t play two sides anymore. I have to bet either pass or don’t pass at the time. If I lose, I’ve successfully converted $95K of promote chips. If I win, the last promo chip, I can keep playing till I lose therefore I can convert more than $100K. The craps pass/dont pass line rinsing method was actually taught to me by a pit boss I was close with. He discretely pulled me aside when I was trying to wash these chips at a no commission baccarat table. He said in the case banker wins with 3rd card equalling 7, I’d only be paid half, so craps is the better method.
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1/36 of the time you’ll lose the pass promo chip without winning the don’t pass promo chip.
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fact.
I didn't report the sessions individually this time because the win numbers were high enough such that it might have been pretty easy to trace them to me. I am not aware of anyone else lately killing it the way I have been so consistently, at these levels.

He's winning these amounts so high he doesn't want to be associated with being that person here.
Why?
Does MDawg really think casino security is gonna approach him and say he's being evicted for making posts on WOV?
Quote: darkozIt's nonsense in my opinion.
He's winning three amounts so high he doesn't want to be associated with being that person here.
Why?
Does MDawg really think casino security is gonna approach him and say he's being evicted for making posts on WOV?
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MDawg is anonymous here. He believes if he posts ‘I won a million yesterday at a casino that rhymes with Melaggio, someone will go to that casino, ask around, find out who the big winner was, and expose his true identity here on WoV.
MDawg, you told us you’ve been disallowed to play at one of the ‘majors’. At your level, there isn’t any communication between the biggest casinos? If someone is taking high 6 or low 7 figures from a house, the other house’s don’t find out?
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: darkozIt's nonsense in my opinion.
He's winning three amounts so high he doesn't want to be associated with being that person here.
Why?
Does MDawg really think casino security is gonna approach him and say he's being evicted for making posts on WOV?
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MDawg is anonymous here. He believes if he posts ‘I won a million yesterday at a casino that rhymes with Melaggio, someone will go to that casino, ask around, find out who the big winner was, and expose his true identity here on WoV.
MDawg, you told us you’ve been disallowed to play at one of the ‘majors’. At your level, there isn’t any communication between the biggest casinos? If someone is taking high 6 or low 7 figures from a house, the other house’s don’t find out?
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Whoa, he wins at the DiMaggio?
I had no idea...
It is astonishing to me how someone who claims to figure out casinos would miss something so obvious. Then again when has the D.Oz mind analyzed something and come up with anything in tune with the obvious?
SooPoo got it.
I wasn’t entered into any database obviously as I’m still here whaling on them. I do divide up my play between lots of casinos. That’s how, for example a few years or so back we stayed in Vegas continuously almost all that year, moving around constantly between a dozen or so casinos. No one stay was more than a few weeks or so, and even then I was still driving around and dividing up play.
Quote: MDawgThe concern is with rascals on these forums desperate to identify MDawg. I post anonymously otherwise I’d post under real name not MDawg.
It is astonishing to me how someone who claims to figure out casinos would miss something so obvious. Then again when has the D.Oz mind analyzed something and come up with anything in tune with the obvious?
SooPoo got it.
I wasn’t entered into any database obviously as I’m still here whaling on them. I do divide up my play between lots of casinos. That’s how, for example a few years or so back we stayed in Vegas continuously almost all that year, moving around constantly between a dozen or so casinos. No one stay was more than a few weeks or so, and even then I was still driving around and dividing up play.
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Why would anyone want to identify you on here?
Many of us have even met up at get togethers.
And by rascals at forums, I don't mean just this forum. One such rascal posted at the other forum about letters he wrote to the casinos complaining that as a stockholder he had a right to complain about MDawg's ruining their bottom line, and included a name that he thought was MDawg's.