Beating randomness
Quote: Viper21I can see it now. Posted on all the table games right next to the rules and non smoking signs "Absolutely No Telekinesis Allowed"
Congress will have to pass the X-Men laws
Quote: vegasWhere is James Randi when we need him. If only Randi was not 91 years old.....
Will this do?
Quote: ThatDonGuy
That was fun!
Quote: ThatDonGuy
Hydrick is a real piece of work. He was
sent to prison at age 18 for kidnapping
and torture. He escaped 3 times. He
was 22 when he did the show above.
At 30 he went to prison again, this
time for molesting 5 teenage boys.
As far as I can tell he's still there, he
has a string of mental disorders.
Surprisingly, his mastery of telekinesis
has not helped him escape.. lol
These prizes are strange, because I know telekinesis is real, and I don't feel like I'm somehow special and the JoyofSatan instructions only work for me. After all, I'm not the one who came up with this information.
As for the prizes, maybe they make it too difficult for people who can genuinely perform these abilities, e.g., by using heavier things than someone with telekinesis can move. I'm not sure.
I don't really consider telekinesis a psychic ability, probably because of the connotations that have to do with the word "psychic". I guess it really doesn't matter what you call it though; I just know it's real, and I have done it.
Whatever the case, this person is a troll or an idiot if I ever seen one.
Feel free to suspend me whomever..
Quote: toughAll these debunkers are wrong. I've done telekinesis numerous times. I suppose the debunkers are right about the fakes who attempt "psychic" abilities.
These prizes are strange, because I know telekinesis is real, and I don't feel like I'm somehow special and the JoyofSatan instructions only work for me. After all, I'm not the one who came up with this information.
As for the prizes, maybe they make it too difficult for people who can genuinely perform these abilities, e.g., by using heavier things than someone with telekinesis can move. I'm not sure.
I don't really consider telekinesis a psychic ability, probably because of the connotations that have to do with the word "psychic". I guess it really doesn't matter what you call it though; I just know it's real, and I have done it.
Charles from w3m says to use communication circles to beat the elite pyramid system. Maybe this is somehow related?
It's not Nathan, but I don't rule out it being another skillfull troll or sock.Quote: AxelWolfI too had this inkling this was Nathan, Tasha, LS etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc. If so she is a very well verse mentally challenged troll/puppeteer ever.
Whatever the case, this person is a troll or an idiot if I ever seen one.
Feel free to suspend me whomever..
I don't think this member is an idiot either. I doubt he or she believes the rubbish he/she is posting. Who would?
I'm sorry to suspend you for one day for personal insult.
I'd advise all established members to stop responding and give this thread the contempt it deserves, rather than bumping it.
Quote: VegasGrindThis is why I like to hit and run, especially when building a bankroll.
Another newbie presents a method
proven to be totally useless. If you
can win hit and run, you can also
win stay and play. Kind of a 'duh'
situation.
Quote: VegasGrindI honestly believe the casinos can be beat by money management. We have the power the casinos don't and this is why when the experts run their computer simulators their results WILL be different than mine. Not one expert can say they play enough for the long run yet they base their calculations on the long run. The power I am talking about is your own two feet. I see people stay and play and yet almost all of them were up something. This is why I like to hit and run, especially when building a bankroll. Hit and run doesn't work??? Think again, I do it all the time and I can prove it!
VG. I mistakenly allowed you to post in the systems sub-forum where you went on to promote a system that you sell. My mistake not realising you were trying to sell a system. You MAY NOT USE THIS SITE TO PROMOTE YOUR SYSTEM FOR SALE.
Other than that.... You are wrong. You cannot beat a casino with money management and Hit and Run is not a winning strategy. Sessions mean nothing!
Just in the interest of clarity. DO NOT PROMOTE YOUR 'Paid for' LESSONS HERE!
Quote: toughHahaha. I've moved things numerous times using telekinesis. How is that a waste of time. It is a skill. I learned it. I performed it. That is the truth.
I can confidently call myself a narrow minded brain dead moron if I were to pass up genuine, knowledge handed over to me on a silver platter that proves all the so called experts wrong.
But why can't you influence the roulette ball and make it land where your bet is enough times to become a billionaire in a single night at the casinos?
Quote: VegasGrindI honestly believe the casinos can be beat by money management. We have the power the casinos don't and this is why when the experts run their computer simulators their results WILL be different than mine. Not one expert can say they play enough for the long run yet they base their calculations on the long run. The power I am talking about is your own two feet. I see people stay and play and yet almost all of them were up something. This is why I like to hit and run, especially when building a bankroll. Hit and run doesn't work??? Think again, I do it all the time and I can prove it!
The new John Patrick!
Quote: rawtuffBut why can't you influence the roulette ball and make it land where your bet is enough times to become a billionaire in a single night at the casinos?
The roulette ball is too heavy, moves too quickly, and is too far away. I suppose it's possible to perfect your telekinetic abilities to be able to do it.
Quote: AxelWolfI too had this inkling this was Nathan, Tasha, LS etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc. If so she is a very well verse mentally challenged troll/puppeteer ever.
Whatever the case, this person is a troll or an idiot if I ever seen one.
Feel free to suspend me whomever..
Quote: OnceDearIt's not Nathan, but I don't rule out it being another skillfull troll or sock.
I don't think this member is an idiot either. I doubt he or she believes the rubbish he/she is posting. Who would?
I'm sorry to suspend you for one day for personal insult.
I'd advise all established members to stop responding and give this thread the contempt it deserves, rather than bumping it.
I'd advise all established members to stop dramatically responding.
Quote: rawtuffBut why can't you influence the roulette ball and make it land where your bet is enough times to become a billionaire in a single night at the casinos?
I will be more than happy to answer your question in my fifty thousand dollar seminar wherein I speak to roulette balls. in a random fashion, but I will use your tuition by gambling.
Quote: OnceDearIt's not Nathan, but I don't rule out it being another skillfull troll or sock.
I'm a sock. How did you find out? Soros is paying me dough to divide the country; it's going to shred the casino/player relationship. LOL
And im pretty sure the secrets been revealed here right now by me
Quote: toughThe roulette ball is too heavy, moves too quickly, and is too far away. I suppose it's possible to perfect your telekinetic abilities to be able to do it.
1. Can you lift an object into the air? or only move it sideways on a surface? or only divert the path of its motion?
2. How large of an object can you move with your telekinesis?
Quote: FleaStiffI will be more than happy to answer your question in my fifty thousand dollar seminar wherein I speak to roulette balls. in a random fashion, but I will use your tuition by gambling.
Quote: heatmapi wouldnt mind changing this threads theme to "Roulette ball manipulation via telekenisis"
And im pretty sure the secrets been revealed here right now by me
The tk (telekinesis) has nothing to with my consistent winning formula.
So I'm going to retype myself:
I brought up telekinesis to demonstrate that the experts and the vast majority of the world's population are wrong and/or ignorant about things that they are so confident of. I even gave everyone the free JoyofSatan link so they can see for themselves that it's real.
Another thing is that I have said that outside forces influence randomness, and this is just one categorical example of things that could be influencing random.
Quote: gordonm8881. Can you lift an object into the air? or only move it sideways on a surface? or only divert the path of its motion?
2. How large of an object can you move with your telekinesis?
Just read the information on the JoyofSatan link and maybe other information on the JoyofSatan website.
Charles did say that the best information in life is free, like his site and the JoyofSatan site.
Quote: FleaStiffI will be more than happy to answer your question in my fifty thousand dollar seminar wherein I speak to roulette balls. in a random fashion, but I will use your tuition by gambling.
Don't forget to feed them, give them water, and potty breaks throughout the day.
Take care to tuck them in at night.
Quote: billryanTake care that you don't send the winning half to the cornfield.
Be sure to send half of your race back to the Atlanta police department.
Quote: caralarmDon't forget to feed them, give them water, and potty breaks throughout the day.
Take care to tuck them in at night.
Give them treats when they behave unrandomly for positive reinforcement.
See, I can respond to nonsense with nonsense too.
Except as Charles says, "my serious posts consist of facts that can make you a full time professional roulette player with an income to match sports players with a fraction of the work."
And the consistent winning formula is not for sale.
Quote: VegasGrindAre you saying there are no gamblers that make a living by hitting and running? Ha! How long have you been around gambling? There are plenty of us out there.
You have no idea how silly and
inexperienced you sound. And
I'm not going to wise you up,
why bother..
Quote: EvenBobYou have no idea how silly and
inexperienced you sound. And
I'm not going to wise you up,
why bother..
Maybe he means actually hitting and running.
He hits the dealer with his fists, grabs as many chips as he can and runs
Hit and run!
If you leave one casino and go to another, is it a new session or a continuation of the old one?
Does the path to success go thru Satan?
Quote: VegasGrindYou guys are sooo childish mr. know it alls... can’t even respond intelligently... IDC if you believe me... btw your sarcastic wit is that of a 5 year old!... also, if you don’t have anything productive to contribute and want to try and bully me then don’t waste your breath... not happening. Hey, you don’t believe in hit and run then don’t criticize those who disagree. I have solid proof that it works... what do you have? Oh and stop being such a bully... no one likes a bully!
Bye bye
Quote: VegasGrindYou guys are sooo childish mr. know it alls... can’t even respond intelligently... IDC if you believe me... btw your sarcastic wit is that of a 5 year old!... also, if you don’t have anything productive to contribute and want to try and bully me then don’t waste your breath... not happening. Hey, you don’t believe in hit and run then don’t criticize those who disagree. I have solid proof that it works... what do you have? Oh and stop being such a bully... no one likes a bully!
Classic misdirection guys.
We aren’t even arguing about this... why are you even arguing
Quote: VegasGrind. can’t even respond intelligently...
LOL! That's fairly obvious. If
you come to a gambling
forum and claim there is
money to be made with
hit and run. But why bother
explaining it, you still wouldn't
get it.
Quote: VegasGrindAre you saying there are no gamblers that make a living by hitting and running? Ha! How long have you been around gambling? There are plenty of us out there.
VegasGrind, I agree, there probably are professionals hitting and running at the casino. I am just not sure if you are truly genuine, but who am I to judge? If you are, then ignore that comment, it doesn't apply to you.
A successful hit and run method isn't about just quitting while you're ahead. It also employs a strategy to quit before losing too much. Like Charles would like to say, "and that's a fact."
Tbh, I'm not 100% sure on successful hit and run methods, but speaking from experience, I have dominated the casino with them before and have increased my bankroll, where logical sense would normally dictate that it would have decreased due to the house edge.
I know the argument about you should be able to stay and play if you can hit and run. You need to think more laterally. Your "logical" thinking is different than the truth. There are both logical and illogical reasons why this works.
This has nothing to do with my consistent winning formula, just additional things I've discovered through my own research and experience/experiments.
Quote: toughThere are both logical and illogical reasons why this works.
No there aren't.
Quote: toughVegasGrind, I agree, there probably are professionals hitting and running at the casino. I am just not sure if you are truly genuine, but who am I to judge? If you are, then ignore that comment, it doesn't apply to you.
A successful hit and run method isn't about just quitting while you're ahead. It also employs a strategy to quit before losing too much. Like Charles would like to say, "and that's a fact."
Tbh, I'm not 100% sure on successful hit and run methods, but speaking from experience, I have dominated the casino with them before and have increased my bankroll, where logical sense would normally dictate that it would have decreased due to the house edge.
I know the argument about you should be able to stay and play if you can hit and run. You need to think more laterally. Your "logical" thinking is different than the truth. There are both logical and illogical reasons why this works.
This has nothing to do with my consistent winning formula, just additional things I've discovered through my own research and experience/experiments.
Share your winning formula. New game designers pay people tens of thousands of dollars to work out the math and establishing the house edge. You can have your system authenticated here and now for free.
Otherwise, I have to question why you are here.
Quote: VegasGrindYou guys are sooo childish mr. know it alls... can’t even respond intelligently... IDC if you believe me... btw your sarcastic wit is that of a 5 year old!... also, if you don’t have anything productive to contribute and want to try and bully me then don’t waste your breath... not happening. Hey, you don’t believe in hit and run then don’t criticize those who disagree. I have solid proof that it works... what do you have? Oh and stop being such a bully... no one likes a bully!
Thanks for making this easy on me. Nuke.
Quote: WizardThanks for making this easy on me. Nuke.
caralarm to wizard headquarters: we have some randomness beating claimer in our midst. over.
Quote: tough
Give them treats when they behave unrandomly for positive reinforcement.
Spank them for randomly misbehaving.
Quote: WizardThanks for making this easy on me. Nuke.
Now we'll never know the details
of his system. Thank god..
Quote: caralarmIf Charles says to protect the winning bet with your life, then what are you and Charles blabbing on about?
As long as I'm careful, I can "blab" all I want. The truth is that there will never be too many professional players because it is simply a "fact" that most people won't put the effort into discovering or creating a consistent winning formula.
People expect great things, like wealth, to come quickly. I know there are many viewers of this thread now, but eventually, people will give up and stop searching. I suppose this is nature's way of "weeding" the wrong types of people out.
Another tip: overthinking can be a real problem. The consistent winning formula is simple; only common sense is needed. If you have been spending too much time on this puzzle, take a break for a while, and completely take your mind off of it. Get into some hobby or other activity to occupy your mind.
Quote: caralarmyou cannot beat rng casinos. Their software is designed to beat the player. Maybe you can win in the short term
This is the essence of all discussions about quitting when ahead. Yes, you can "win" when you play negative expectation games, but you cannot "beat" negative expectation games.
The essence is knowing the difference between winning and beating.
Quote: toughI'm talking about consistently winning more sessions and units than losing. This is all very simple. For example, if I win 6 out of 10 sessions (on no zero or any roulette), using flat bets, after hundreds of thousands of sessions, this would obviously be a consistent winner.
I have a "system" that does that. It's called, "Flat betting on an even-money bet on a single-zero roulette wheel until either you are 4 bets ahead or 12 bets behind." It wins 66.41% of the time.
In case you're interested, the probabililty of being +W in a session before -L where all of the bets are even-money bets of 1 with winning probability p is:
(((1-p) / p)L - 1) / (((1-p) / p)W+L - 1)
In single-zero roulette, (1-p) / p = 19/18; in double-zero, it is 10/9.
Quote: AlanMendelsonThis is the essence of all discussions about quitting when ahead. Yes, you can "win" when you play negative expectation games, but you cannot "beat" negative expectation games.
The essence is knowing the difference between winning and beating.
I want to understand your terminology Alan. Let's say you go to a casino 10 times during the month, playing a -EV game. Of those 10 trips, 3 were so calling winning days for a total of +$4600. The other 7 days resulted in a loss of $7600.
Did you "win" playing negative EV games? Did you "beat" the casino?
Quote: kewljI want to understand your terminology Alan. Let's say you go to a casino 10 times during the month, playing a -EV game. Of those 10 trips, 3 were so calling winning days for a total of +$4600. The other 7 days resulted in a loss of $7600.
Did you "win" playing negative EV games? Did you "beat" the casino?
You're not even close, but thanks for trying.
You used the word "loss." Does loss mean you beat a game?
Maybe this will help: You can win innings in a baseball game but not beat the other team.
Another example: a boxer can win rounds but not beat his opponent.
In the nine times I won, I averaged $30 in wins for a total win of $270.
My one losing session cost me $300, but the really important thing is that I proved my system will win more often than it loses.
If I can continue this, I'll have the greatest system ever, one that wins 90% of the times I go to the casino.
This seems pretty foolproof. Time to up the stakes.
