The Adventures of MDawg
Quote: coachbellyOK.
Before I search, what are the parameters? Markers of more than 15K?
No. We are talking markers of 50k, 100k or more. I mean the assertion is that he has 500k to put up to win a few thousand. And based on that Wizard says that is possible. But Mdawg has never put anywhere near that amount into play, and yet still wins 10k almost every day, every trip. And yes, I understand we are talking about the luckiest man alive....but I am tired of that as the reason for defying math claims.
So start with 50k. Show me where he ever talks about markers of 50k, indicating he put that kind of money in play.
Quote: coachbellyBoSox was being sarcastic. And MDawg made no such claim as you assert above.
It's difficult to have a cogent discussion when flippant comments and allegations are presented as facts.
I do not believe that MDawg would ever allow himself to get in a position of losing a large sum of money "considered by him". Yes, I believe that he has the 500K line of credit. Although, I think that he is only interested in playing the comp game where even if he finally at some point loses like 20k on a trip he still won in the outright amenities. He loves the zero-risk game.
Quote: ExpectedvalueDrich, along those lines, slot machines have promo pages that state maximum payouts for slot directors info. But technically if you get free games and retrifgger after retrifger it’s the it possible to go over that? As relating to this thread, mathematically possible.:
Yes, but usually the maximum payout amount is stated for the base game.
Quote: BoSoxI do not believe that MDawg would ever allow himself to get in a position of losing a large sum of money "considered by him". Yes, I believe that he has the 500K line of credit. Although, I think that he is only interested in playing the comp game where even if he finally at some point loses like 20k on a trip he still won in the outright amenities. He loves the zero-risk game.
Yes, but this is NOT what his claims are.
Frankly I think a number of us are of the opinion that he may be a losing player racking up big comps, or if not him, his boss or someone he knows. But that is really another matter. His claims are win, win, win, playing -Ev and I object to that.
And while I am at it, I have asked 3 times about the statement he made about being re-instated to play blackjack at several properties after being barred for blackjack advantage play. I have yet to get an answer. But that isn't how THAT works either BoSox, as you know. I have never heard of a casino reinstating a player barred for playing with and advantage. That just doesn't happen. Frankly the only way I could see that occurring is if the player involved lost FAR more at other gambling, say slots, or baccarat than they could possibly make card counting. In such a scenario, the casino might say, yeah ok.
frankly it all comes down to math, and we are repeatedly being told 2 + 2 = 7, and I object to it, particularly on this forum.
And anyone who says it’s impossible to win big with small bankrolls is a petty grinder with no skill or balls. In the old days I’ve taken very small sums to mid six figures at Baccarat, and walked with all of it. But, in the old days I would also routinely win or lose low to mid five figures. I would routinely lose low to mid five figures at one casino then run across the street and win the same sum back. Which makes no sense because I was financially not as well off then as now, and yet I’d play harder. I still ended way ahead back then, even with the ups and downs, due to several huge wins.
Then I took that decade or so hiatus.
These days I’m just playing for fun but I’m definitely playing to win. My success rate these days is much higher than in the past. But it’s not do or die I’d never chase a loss excessively if things did move in that direction.
As Bosox surmises, if I were to lose today I’d just keep the loss as low as possible, pay it off, and just write it off against all the wins. But if I kept losing I’d quit.
Each one of these session and trip reports is factual which makes me laugh when I see some people saying it can’t be, but, as I’ve written, that’s their problem not mine. I’ve actually mentioned obliquely to some close friends about how I’ve related some of my Vegas chronicles to strangers who think it can’t be, and they just laugh too, and say, That’s because they don’t know you.
Quote: kewljShow me where he ever talks about markers of 50k, indicating he put that kind of money in play.
Quote: MDawgI've done that for as much as $50K of chips where I lost 50 at one casino walked across the street won 50 and walked back and presented the chips to pay off the line.
Quote: coachbellyIf you are serious, then send him a PM.
It's no longer prudent to discuss such arrangements publicly.
I did sent him a private message but it said that the recipient is not accepting dm at this time. Not sure what that means
Quote: ExpectedvalueI did sent him a private message but it said that the recipient is not accepting dm at this time. Not sure what that means
Send it to me and I'll make sure he gets it.
Quote: kewljI have never heard of a casino reinstating a player barred for playing with and advantage.
Mission recently replied to you that he was barred and reinstated.
Now in the past few days, Mdawg has expressly said that he plays ONE single session a day. Obviously that day, he contradicted what he now says. It is just pretty convenient that in all the sessions in all the trips talked about in this thread, one of the very few losing sessions, he just happened to walk across the street and win back that same amount, thus avoiding a losing day. :/
Coach belly you are believing what you WANT to believe.
I happened to be over at her parents’ place when all this went down, and drove her to the county psych hospital. In the waiting room she was reading anagrams off all of the writing that was (and wasn’t) on the walls, and then when we went in to see the psychiatrist (they had me go in with her because she was making no sense) she kept going on and on about all she wanted were air and water whenever the psych asked her whether she was willing to take the anti psychotic medication he prescribed.
Finally after her umpteenth repetition of the same nonsense, he grew tired and just told her, “I’m DONE talking to you.” and angrily wrote up the commitment papers. And some here still wonder why I don’t even bother to respond to them and yet keep talking to themselves, trying to convince themselves of the same thing over and over.
Quote: kewljShow me where he ever talks about markers of 50k, indicating he put that kind of money in play.
I showed you what you asked for.
Quote: kewljAnd what money did he use at the second property? A second 50k marker?
Obviously. That's what you asked me to show.
Quote: kewljI do NOT believe THAT story
That's because it doesn't fit your narrative.
So why did you ask in the first place if you were prejudiced?
Quote: kewljMdawg has expressly said that he plays ONE single session a day.
Obviously that day, he contradicted what he now says.
Time passes, things change.
Old habits die hard, but everything dies baby, that's a fact.
Wise up.
Quote: MDawg
Anyway I got to my intended casino and asked them for $50K, my whole line. BACCARAT. To my surprise, they actually wouldn't give it to me. They said, "It's a courtesy not a right." I had never encountered something like that.
Does this not indicate that his entire credit line was 50k? So where does this idea that Mdawg has a 500k bankroll that he is willing to risk to make a few thousand each day?
The notion of winning a few, even 10k off a 500k bankroll is conceivable for a period of time. It will eventually catch up to you, but could be done for a while.
But the idea of doing so on even 50k, is far less conceivable.
There is a huge difference in my book between a host and a pit boss. I wouldn't tip a pit boss that much either. I dont know any Bitboss that could actually accept tips from the players.Quote: Marcusclark66I was wrong in saying Pit Boss, it was Host which I find almost as outrageous! I know some people tip hosts commonly up to $500 and I'm sure there are other people that I'm not aware of in the entire country or world that have tipped hosts greater amounts but generally it's $500 or less and I would say the mean average is between $50 to $300 from what I've been told countless times.
And there is a huge difference and meaning between a lie and what you accused me of and a mistake. If anybody owes anybody an apology you owe me an apology for accusing me of lying. As well I do believe you owe MDawg several apologies as well.
Again I correct myself and it was not Pit Boss it was Host which I find almost as outrageous.
I dont care what you find outrageous. When a host is giving you full RFB, paying for your mall shopping, limos, airfare, and 20% of your losses where you can buy gold and other valuable things with it on higher limit +EV machines on a per-trip basis (even if that trip is just 2 days) you tend to tip well, especially, when you have the same deal at more than one location and you are making money without the rebates. My tips were calculated in hopes the host would keep the deal going for as long as possible.
Quote: kewljDoes this not indicate that his entire credit line was 50k?
That was at one casino of several, Wizard explained all this months ago.
Quote: MDawgSome years back a friend of mine had a psychotic break. Someone had slipped her some morning glory seeds or some such and she had lost her mind, babbling about preserving the world’s treasures in granite catacombs.
I happened to be over at her parents’ place when all this went down, and drove her to the county psych hospital. In the waiting room she was reading anagrams off all of the writing that was (and wasn’t) on the walls, and then when we went in to see the psychiatrist (they had me go in with her because she was making no sense) she kept going on and on about all she wanted were air and water whenever the psych asked her whether she was willing to take the anti psychotic medication he prescribed.
Finally after her umpteenth repetition of the same nonsense, he grew tired and just told her, “I’m DONE talking to you.” and angrily wrote up the commitment papers. And some here still wonder why I don’t even bother to respond to them and yet keep talking to themselves, trying to convince themselves of the same thing over and over.
Superb points!
AKA Drama Queens!
Quote: AxelWolfThere is a huge difference in my book between a host and a pit boss. I wouldn't tip a pit boss that much either. I dont know any Bitboss that could actually accept tips from the players.
I dont care what you find outrageous. When a host is giving you full RFB, paying for your mall shopping, limos, airfare, and 20% of your losses where you can buy gold and other valuable things with it on higher limit +EV machines on a per-trip basis (even if that trip is just 2 days) you tend to tip well, especially, when you have the same deal at more than one location and you are making money without the rebates. My tips were calculated in hopes the host would keep the deal going for as long as possible.
IMO and of several others I've already heard from by p.m., the claims you are making are totally outrageous. I hope you believe what you write!
Quote: AxelWolfa host is giving you full RFB, paying for your mall shopping, limos, airfare, and 20% of your losses where you can buy gold and other valuable things with it on higher limit +EV machines on a per-trip basis
Quote: Marcusclark66IMO and of several others I've already heard from by p.m., the claims you are making are totally outrageous.
I agree.
Turnabout is fair play.
Please post whatever corroborating photos, screenshots or documents are available to support your claims.
Was that polite enough to get you to finally do what you said that you could do?
Quote: Marcusclark66IMO and of several others I've already heard from by p.m., the claims you are making are totally outrageous. I hope you believe what you write!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Quote: SOOPOOI’m not sure if you realize how ludicrous your 25% claim is. Even if you only bet tie 5 times in a day, and you have only played 100 days in your career, you are saying you hit 125 ties when expectation is around 48. I don’t have enough zeros to show he likelihood of that happening.
Why would you make such a ridiculous claim?
For those playing along at home, the probability of 75 or more ties in 300 bets is
1-BINOMDIST(75,300,0.096,TRUE) = 2.89E-15
over 1 in 346,000,000,000,000
A pretty big accomplishment for most gamblers. For others, it's just routine.
Stay hydrated.
Quote: coachbellyI agree.
Turnabout is fair play.
Please post whatever corroborating photos, screenshots or documents are available to support your claims.
Was that polite enough to get you to finally do what you said that you could do?
I agree thank you for your support and for coming on and writing what should be done by Axel!
Quote: Marcusclark66IMO and of several others I've already heard from by p.m., the claims you are making are totally outrageous. I hope you believe what you write!
So just to be clear,
You don't believe it's possible a guy could tip a large amount to a host, (to keep a gravy train running in fact, I mean not even to be generous like say donating to a homeless shelter or something)
But you do believe a guy can win every day at Baccarat?
You know there is the old joke bet. Just bet Axel $10,000 that he will not tip out a host $3000. I am quite certain Axel will accept, he will tip out his host $3000 and you will pay up $10,000.
You will be perfectly welcome to come on here and still say it didn't happen, lol.
We should get back to the adventures of the OP here. Just shows all of our kindness, our politeness and the respect that we have for each other and not totally hijack the thread like we started to do.
Myself I apologize, I don't know about the rest of you but you do owe the OP an apology in my opinion. Thank you.
Quote: Marcusclark66Just to be clear;
We should get back to the adventures of the OP here. Just shows all of our kindness, our politeness and the respect that we have for each other and not totally hijack the thread like we started to do.
Myself I apologize, I don't know about the rest of you but you do owe the OP an apology in my opinion. Thank you.
Marcus,
You joined one year ago. Your first thread was about multiple forum members across other forums.
90% of all your comments are on this thread alone
Your sole purpose seems to be as a subservient foil to MDawg and I don't mean that as an insult. Simply that whatever criticism is directed to MDawg, you step in and mention people are insulting him, people need to apologise to him, people need to leave this thread if they don't like what they read, i.e. a subservient foil. A way to criticize MDawg's detractors without MDawg saying anything directly.
You also go out of your way to put down all detractors of MDawg, attacking Axel quite vehemently, for example.
Coach Belly also shows these same characteristics. In fact one member in the last two or three pages said he can't PM MDawg to discuss terms of meeting up and Coach Belly said he could pass it along which implies pretty explicitly that they are in communication with each other.
Your arguments for MDawg just seem very suspicious to me. Something that a casino surveillance guy would probably find compelling enough to investigate imo.
I'm not saying you are a sock of MDawg. What I am saying is you are some form of collusion with him. Misdirection at it's best and this appears to me to be intentional.
Quote: Marcusclark66I agree thank you for your support and for coming on and writing what should be done by Axel!
Quote: darkozMarcus,
You joined one year ago. Your first thread was about multiple forum members across other forums.
90% of all your comments are on this thread alone
Your sole purpose seems to be as a subservient foil to MDawg and I don't mean that as an insult. Simply that whatever criticism is directed to MDawg, you step in and mention people are insulting him, people need to apologise to him, people need to leave this thread if they don't like what they read, i.e. a subservient foil. A way to criticize MDawg's detractors without MDawg saying anything directly.
You also go out of your way to put down all detractors of MDawg, attacking Axel quite vehemently, for example.
Coach Belly also shows these same characteristics. In fact one member in the last two or three pages said he can't PM MDawg to discuss terms of meeting up and Coach Belly said he could pass it along which implies pretty explicitly that they are in communication with each other.
Your arguments for MDawg just seem very suspicious to me. Something that a casino surveillance guy would probably find compelling enough to investigate imo.
I'm not saying you are a sock of MDawg. What I am saying is you are some form of collusion with him. Misdirection at it's best and this appears to me to be intentional.
So what are you in charge of my life now?
Suddenly you're my wife or maybe you want to be my lover?
Why are you extremely jealous and why are you hung up on myself and also MDawg?
Just move on, block us and go on to another thread, there are physically thousands of them!!
Quote: ExpectedvalueI did come and say im willing to post any amount at the tables he would like. I think way back in this thread he wanted someone to post 50k. That isn’t a problem I would just like to play and learn how to win like he does.
Quote: coachbellyIf you are serious, then send him a PM.
It's no longer prudent to discuss such arrangements publicly.
Quote: ExpectedvalueI did sent him a private message but it said that the recipient is not accepting dm at this time. Not sure what that means
Quote: coachbellySend it to me and I'll make sure he gets it.
Something is deeply disturbing with the entire above scenario. This whole thread is degrading the site.
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Fine but, why is this guy so happy about busting?
No one at the table is wearing a mask either.
Quote: sabreFor those playing along at home, the probability of 75 or more ties in 300 bets is
1-BINOMDIST(75,300,0.096,TRUE) = 2.89E-15
over 1 in 346,000,000,000,000
Does this refer to the tie occurring 75 times in 300 hands dealt,
or winning the tie bet 75 times out of 300 times betting the tie?
I noticed a photo of a baccarat scoreboard where there were 17 ties in 73 hands dealt.
If the player bet the tie every hand, then he would have won 23% of his tie bets.
What's the probability of that occurrence?
Quote: coachbellyDoes this refer to the tie occurring 75 times in 300 hands dealt,
or winning the tie bet 75 times out of 300 times betting the tie?
I noticed a photo of a baccarat scoreboard where there were 17 ties in 73 hands dealt.
If the player bet the tie every hand, then he would have won 23% of his tie bets.
What's the probability of that occurrence?
Rare. But does not approach the ‘practically impossible’. NO ONE is saying you can’t have a lucky streak. 17 out of 73 when expected is 7 out of 73 is a very lucky streak. 125 out of 500 when expected is 48 out of 500, as someone pointed out earlier, is a 1 in some hundreds of trillions event. It is more reasonable for me to believe it didn’t occur, than to believe an anonymous guy on the internet who makes many similar claims.....
If someone says they rolled 18 yos in a row.... it is of course possible, but FAR more likely he did not. My life proceeds better by not believing the one in XXX,XXX,XXX,XXX,XXX claims.
Quote: SOOPOORare. But does not approach the ‘practically impossible’.
Thanks Doc, but I quoted sabre and I was looking for him to answer with a number.
Quote: MDawgNo one at the table is wearing a mask either.
The woman at third base and the guy next to her are my neighbors.
Quote: coachbellyDoes this refer to the tie occurring 75 times in 300 hands dealt,
or winning the tie bet 75 times out of 300 times betting the tie?
What is the difference?
Quote: coachbellyI noticed a photo of a baccarat scoreboard where there were 17 ties in 73 hands dealt.
If the player bet the tie every hand, then he would have won 23% of his tie bets.
What's the probability of that occurrence?
1-BINOMDIST(17,73,.096,TRUE)
Type that into excel and report back with the answer.
Quote: sabreFor those playing along at home, the probability of 75 or more ties in 300 bets is
1-BINOMDIST(75,300,0.096,TRUE) = 2.89E-15
Quote: coachbellyDoes this refer to the tie occurring 75 times in 300 hands dealt,
or winning the tie bet 75 times out of 300 times betting the tie?
Quote: sabreWhat is the difference?
I read that the bettor can count the tie bet.
Couldn't that make a difference?
What do the indicators on the scoreboard show?
And this might hold some weight if you were not some totally anonymous person on the internet and people here knew who you were IRL, and had good reason to believe anything you say. For all we know, you are just some sockpuppet.Quote: Marcusclark66IMO and of several others I've already heard from by p.m., the claims you are making are totally outrageous. I hope you believe what you write!
On the other hand, and the polar opposite of you, and you're little...what I would consider a trolling crew. I have been around the AP world since the '90s. I have met with a significant amount of people that know who I am and what I do. In the course of that time, I have done business with, made Advantage Plays with, made friends with, helped others, made sizable transactions on trust and my word alone, traded information, given information, paid for information, made deals with people, loaned money, paid off bets I lost, participated and helped with WOV and other events, our team has hosted our own events, helped people get comped rooms and food, picked people up from the Vegas Airport and much more.
Quote: AxelWolfa trolling crew.
Was MD trolling when he started this thread?
I read that a troll is a person who starts flame wars or intentionally upsets people on the Internet.
Did MD start a flame war...do you think he started this thread to upset people?
Quote: kewljYes, but this is NOT what his claims are.
Frankly I think a number of us are of the opinion that he may be a losing player racking up big comps, or if not him, his boss or someone he knows. But that is really another matter. His claims are win, win, win, playing -Ev and I object to that.
And while I am at it, I have asked 3 times about the statement he made about being re-instated to play blackjack at several properties after being barred for blackjack advantage play. I have yet to get an answer. But that isn't how THAT works either BoSox, as you know. I have never heard of a casino reinstating a player barred for playing with and advantage. That just doesn't happen. Frankly the only way I could see that occurring is if the player involved lost FAR more at other gambling, say slots, or baccarat than they could possibly make card counting. In such a scenario, the casino might say, yeah ok.
frankly it all comes down to math, and we are repeatedly being told 2 + 2 = 7, and I object to it, particularly on this forum.
KewlJ, regarding MDawg statements about being re-instated to play blackjack at several properties after being barred for being an advantage player, I think I figured it out.
I call it the lesser of two evils from a casino perspective. After a meeting of the top brass, they decided to let him play blackjack and attempt to get him away from the baccarat tables. Although the writing is already on the wall before he may become the first person to hear, sir you can play any other game than baccarat.
Quote: coachbelly
I read that a troll is a person who starts flame wars or intentionally upsets people on the Internet.
Can you give an example of a single post you have made that does not fit the criterion you just mentioned?
I’m not holding my breath.
Time to take a few days off from this thread, unless MDawg posts something interesting from his trip.
Quote: SOOPOOCan you give an example of a single post you have made that does not fit the criterion you just mentioned?
There isn't one.
Quote: coachbellyI read that the bettor can count the tie bet.
Couldn't that make a difference?
Obviously.
So could seeing the next card coming out of the shoe.
So could sequencing.
So could colluding with the dealer.
So could being a bonafide psychic.
But none of these things apply.
"Nobody can deadlift 2000 lbs"
"But what if you did it on the moon!"
"Well, yeah, I guess"
"Ha ... so you're wrong! Gotcha!"
"I'm not talking to you anymore"
I think he's been trolling/flamming everyone from day one. Have I myself been guilty of trolling him back? I think that's been obvious. Of course, he has taken it to some psycho-like levels. Just how many threads has he started about me now? Add that to the other frowned upon things he has said and done, it's not looking good for him.Quote: coachbellyWas MD trolling when he started this thread?
I read that a troll is a person who starts flame wars or intentionally upsets people on the Internet.
Did MD start a flame war...do you think he started this thread to upset people?
Quote: SOOPOOCan you give an example of a single post you have made that does not fit the criterion you just mentioned?
Of course I can, there are many.
Quote: coachbellyThe woman at third base and the guy next to her are my neighbors.
Quote: sabreBut none of these things apply.
Why doesn't counting the tie bet apply?
I don't know what the indicators on the scoreboard mean,
or even where to find them on the scoreboard.
But what do the indicators show?
Quote: coachbellyThe woman at third base and the guy next to her are my neighbors.
Do those neighbors own a couple of Pit Bulls?
Quote: darkozMarcus,
You joined one year ago. Your first thread was about multiple forum members across other forums.
90% of all your comments are on this thread alone
Your sole purpose seems to be as a subservient foil to MDawg and I don't mean that as an insult. Simply that whatever criticism is directed to MDawg, you step in and mention people are insulting him, people need to apologise to him, people need to leave this thread if they don't like what they read, i.e. a subservient foil. A way to criticize MDawg's detractors without MDawg saying anything directly.
You also go out of your way to put down all detractors of MDawg, attacking Axel quite vehemently, for example.
Coach Belly also shows these same characteristics. In fact one member in the last two or three pages said he can't PM MDawg to discuss terms of meeting up and Coach Belly said he could pass it along which implies pretty explicitly that they are in communication with each other.
Your arguments for MDawg just seem very suspicious to me. Something that a casino surveillance guy would probably find compelling enough to investigate imo.
I'm not saying you are a sock of MDawg. What I am saying is you are some form of collusion with him. Misdirection at it's best and this appears to me to be intentional.
Quote: Marcusclark66So what are you in charge of my life now?
Suddenly you're my wife or maybe you want to be my lover?
Why are you extremely jealous and why are you hung up on myself and also MDawg?
Just move on, block us and go on to another thread, there are physically thousands of them!!
Quote: AxelWolfI think he's been trolling/flamming everyone from day one.
I'm not sure that he meant to flame anyone with his trip reports,
but it's clear that the repeated insults and antagonizing created animosity.
I don't believe he's been trolling me,
but you seem sure that he has, and so we disagree.
Quote: darkozI posted this two pages ago. Marcus response is below it. Not even a denial!!!
Not worth it to respond to you in detail any longer. Your negative, you want to cause drama, you borderline on trolling and basically my own opinion and only my own opinion, you have nothing much to say. You are very quick downgrade almost anything anyone says so it's in my own opinion it's not worth it to answer you any longer.
