I said, can you name more than 3 legitimate people. So, to answer your question... I said no such thing. What in that post gave you the indication that I was saying you were not legit?Quote: Marcusclark66Axel please answer. Are you saying I am not legitimate?
As well several people have p.m. me and although I classify them as being valid members that are legitimate, if they p.m. me how would you classify them?
TBH, I really don't know what to think about you.
I really don't understand the connection between legit or not legit people and PMs, anyone can use the PM system here, legit or not.
Quote: AxelWolfI really don't understand the connection between legit or not legit people and PMs, anyone can use the PM system here, legit or not.
What's the criteria for being legit?
Quote: coachbellyWhat's the criteria for being legit?
Not asking questions on top of questions with the intent to trip people up
Quote: darkozNot asking questions on top of questions with the intent to trip people up
No matter how or how many questions are asked, the witness need only remember the truth and cling to it, and the answers will be consistent and truthful.
The truth never changes. Liars trip themselves up.
Quote: MDawgDay Eight play
One shoe / walked with 6000.
Was an easy shoe, bank runs, streaky, mostly repeating pattern. Early on after a few losers I did do one larger bet 2000 on Bank and won with a 7 (five card draw), but otherwise my average bet was only around five hunny (which I negotiated up to 600), and I merely pressed into each run. If anything I underpaid myself I could have easily made much more on this shoe.
The red flag has been thrown asking for a review of the tape on the entire trip report.
My objection is that I believe forum rule #10 has been violated.
Rule 10 states:
"Betting systems: Methods of varying bet size, based on previous wins and losses, not only can't overcome the house edge, they can't even dent it. However, if you're one of the many mathematically ignorant gamblers who think adding up negative numbers can result in a positive one, please keep your comments restricted to the betting systems sty. Betting systems may not be offered for sale anywhere on the site."
If the objection is successful MDawg's trip reports should be limited only to the Systems page.
Quote: BoSoxThe red flag has been thrown
Challenge should be overruled.
No method purported to overcome the house edge has been proposed, identified or endorsed.
The defense stipulates that no such method exists for Baccarat.
BoSox should earn an extra time out.
You guys don't get to over-rule. Nor set penalties.You can say 'I object' or you can block posts, but then you take your chances.Quote: coachbellyChallenge overruled.
No method purported to overcome the house edge has been proposed, identified or endorsed.
The defense stipulates that no such method exists for Baccarat.
BoSox earns an extra time out.
Quote: OnceDearYou can say 'I object' or you can block posts, but then you take your chances.
What do you mean "block posts"...and what chances are taken by blocking posts?
I've rephrased my statement to reflect sentiments commensurate with the challenger's.
OK. Block Threads if you wish. There's a chance you might miss something.Quote: coachbellyWhat do you mean "block posts"...and what chances are taken by blocking posts?
I've rephrased my statement to reflect sentiments commensurate with the challenger's.
Quote: OnceDearYou guys don't get to over-rule. Nor set penalties.You can say 'I object' or you can block posts, but then you take your chances.
I also rephrased the wording of my post from being a challenger to that of an objector of the point.
What MDawg hasn't done is name it although he practically has in the sense it's the MDawg method.
EDIT: Stipulating that no system can beat the house edge while simultaneously boasting of being able to beat the house edge with nothing more than the stated system methods is probably worse. Just double speak!
It is only my opinion that if you really want to learn something valuable rather than follow the thread remember forum rule #10.
Worth quoting again:
"Betting systems: Methods of varying bet size, based on previous wins and losses, not only can't overcome the house edge, they can't even dent it. However, if you're one of the many mathematically ignorant gamblers who think adding up negative numbers can result in a positive one, please keep your comments restricted to the betting systems sty. Betting systems may not be offered for sale anywhere on the site."
One shoe / ahead 3300 and change, called it quits at the dealer's suggestion. "You pulled fifteen thousand, you won over three that's very good, just leave now." Who am I to argue? Dealer won a few hunny too.
Spent an hour chewing the fat with different dealers and pit bosses. I mentioned to one of them that I won, and the dealer said, "But you always win." What could I say but - yes.
At the cage I cashed 3300 in hundreds and told the cashier about how one of their machines mangled one stack of my money. "Really? All right then - let me give you brand new ones this time."
There it is on the upper right there
all crisp and new.
I converted the change into fives and there are now so many fives for tipping in my wallet that I can barely close it.
Back up in the suite I told my wife I'm up over 57K now and she said "Whaaat? I had no idea." She knew I was up, but not that much, apparently. Have you ever seen that episode of The Casino where these two girls drove into Vegas in a brand new Porsche crowing about how they were there not to make deposits, but withdrawals. They lost. I won. I'm here to make BONA FIDE withdrawals.
Quote: MDawgLast night one of the dealers told me that the dealer contracted coronavirus at some point, I assume last year? Said that it was like the worst flu ever experienced, didn't go to the hospital, lasted at least two weeks. Said assumed caught it at the casino. The dealer still looked not so good, a bit of a pasty, sweaty pallor over forehead still, but I have to presume is no longer contagious. Still, I tried to keep my distance.
Today at the gym two guys were not wearing their masks. I asked the attendant to deal with it, both pulled their masks up instantly. Later I noticed one of them had pulled his mask back down again. (The other had left the gym entirely.) This mask-skirter was in another room of the gym so I didn't worry about it, but when I had to complete my workout in that room next to him I said to him, "Would you PLEASE wear your mask when I am in the room next to you." I was actually thundering practically.
"What, do you work here?"
Okay that was enough. I was already agro, so I exploded, "If you think you're better than the rest of us GET THE _____ OUT!"
He said nothing for a bit, then, "You're making an assumption, that I think that," which was actually, a rather good response, but still, I wasn't in the mood.
"Look, none of us wants to wear a mask, it's stupid, just do it, okay?"
Not a word after that, his mask stayed up, and I completed my workout.
I was still a little agro as I left the gym, so I went out by the pool to catch a moment of sun and relax. There's a windstorm in progress out there.
Calmed down now, eating, will go down to play again soon.
I view anyone skirting the mask law as disrespecting the rest of us. I generally deal with the situation politely or with some kind of joke but this guy just somehow got my goad up.
Been playing at one casino, and walked through many. Masks are 100% enforced I didn't see anyone without a mask and even that silly smoker who sat next to me one day at the lower limit table was asked to keep his mask on even though he was chain smoking, whenever he wasn't taking a drag on his cancer stick.
There is no plexiglass at this one grand Baccarat table at one casino, but otherwise I noted plexiglass at all midi-Baccarat tables including the ones I have been playing at. I don't believe I observed plexiglass at the craps tables, or at least not all of them. Some blackjack tables have plexiglass, some not.
Quote: MDawgAnother Cranberries like band I must mention would be Cocteau Twins. Actually, I would say that Cranberries are almost Cocteau Twins, lite.
Ska - now, that was Eighties wasn't it? I must have missed its revival. Swing - yes! I am familiar with exactly when that was revived because I vividly recall that even these young teens were calling themselves Swing Geeks or some such for a period. So anyway, I imagine that Swing revival hit everyone from the youngest teens to the slightly older set (it missed me). You have seen the movie, Swingers, no? and its closing scene with Heather Graham.
You mention Britney Spears. And here I digress a little. It was not long after 9/11 that one of the MGM casinos gave me something like a dozen tickets to Britney Spears and six to U2. I was in Vegas with a good friend and then some other friends of mine were in town so I took all of them and a girl who lived in Vegas I was dating at the time to the concerts. My friend from where I lived refused to go to Britney Spears, but he went to U2. And that's where I'm not too proud to admit that a few Britney songs are all right, I mean they are pure pop but they sound good, right?
Digressing further, I went to a lot of the concerts in Vegas with cocktail waitresses I was dating from the casinos. I wasn't exactly pulling a Fredo, but back then I felt like it was easy to approach them and ask for their numbers. I don't think it was simply that I was rather young and single (versus now older and married), I think just the mentality of approachability was different and maybe some of the younger set that goes to Vegas may step in to comment here if we have any like that on this site. I dated cocktail waitresses and hosts, I am not sure if that is politically "allowed" these days to hit on them in the first place? I know of two hosts (female) who married high rollers, and I dated one of them before she married this other player I was acquainted with. In fact, when I would date one girl who say worked in VIP or as a host or whatever, and we then ended the relationship amicably she would advise me "Don't go out with so and so, etc." as if it were just routine. I'd sometimes go to the high limit Baccarat or Blackjack tables at one resort and see a high roller I knew with a cocktail waitress from a different resort. I don't notice much if any of that these days.
I'm not familiar with Cocteau Twins and will check out some songs on Youtube later today. Thanks!
Ska had a bit of a revival in the late-90's for about twenty minutes. It was a little more, "Underground," but endured longer in the 80's as an offshoot of punk. The 90's version of Ska came and went like a breeze.
I'm afraid that I have never seen that movie. If the question starts with, "Have you seen the movie..." the answer will almost always be no. In general, I don't like movies very much.
I'll agree that a few Britney songs sound okay enough. I don't have any animus for her, in particular, just that she was at the forefront of that part of the 90's where mainstream music started to take a nosedive. I honestly don't necessarily mind her brand of pop. In my opinion, the biggest problem with mainstream music these days is the lack of musical diversity...which is what made the 90's (until 1999, or so) great for mainstream.*
*Edit to Add: By, "Diversity," I'm referring to different musical genres occupying mainstream radio.
Yesterday one of the dealers was telling me about how a high roller friend accompanies the dealer while they play at other casinos sometimes. This dealer had all sorts of rules about not playing on Sundays, or on holiday weekends. All I will say is that I don't like playing with other players at my table, so if it's overly busy and an empty high limit Baccarat table is not available, yes, I would try to avoid that.
With blackjack I don't care if there are other players at the table, as long as I am able to see all the cards. I used to think that what the other players do at blackjack affects me, but I grew out of that belief.
Might not even play today. Up enough, earned a break, we might venture into the sticks of Vegas if the weather is good. Sunny, but I think it's still a little windy out there.
And yet you still believe that streaks are predicable.Quote: MDawgI used to think that what the other players do at blackjack affects me, but I grew out of that belief..
Quote: AxelWolfAnd yet you still believe that streaks are predicable.
He does? I can assure you they are not. You could take advantage of a streak by betting with it till you lose once, but nobody can predict when they're going to happen.
A little bit of everything by all the great members here, even the ones with tens of thousands of posts cannot stay away from this superb thread!
If you can't predict when it's going to happen, how do you know when it's happening in order to take advantage of it? how does one identify a streak is happening and know when to start betting it? 2 win's in a row, 3 wins in a row? Perhaps you wait for lots of losses in a row?Quote: EvenBobHe does? I can assure you they are not. You could take advantage of a streak by betting with it till you lose once, but nobody can predict when they're going to happen.
You should have seen Nathan's corner, and she has even admitted to being mentally disabled. Had she not been banned, her conner would've taken over the entire forum.Quote: Marcusclark66Once again I must say the absolute best thread on the Forum.
A little bit of everything by all the great members here, even the ones with tens of thousands of posts cannot stay away from this superb thread!
Baccaratforum79's threads gained much popularity as well, and he seemed mostly normal at the beginning. Many people thought he was the real deal. He started making mistakes with his stories and was called out, he finally cracked and went bonkers. He had some fancy high rolling pictures of rooms, chips, vegas fun, and long detailed trip reports, etc. He knew lots of stuff about how the host's and comp system worked. It turns out he was using his boss's life (who owned successful businesses) putting his own twist on it and past it off as his own.
You are wrong in your understanding of what I have been saying. Have I ever said either of those things? If so, feel free to direct us to those posts.Quote: Marcusclark66So am I wrong to understand what you are saying is, that you are the sheriff of the forum as well as being a great gambler?
Quote: AxelWolfYou are wrong in your understanding of what I have been saying. Have I ever said either of those things? If so, feel free to direct us to those posts.
It is the aura, the personality, the insinuations, the definitive summations and more you project. Sorry, but so true ;) !
How am I projecting?Quote: Marcusclark66It is the aura, the personality, the insinuations, the definitive summations and more you project. Sorry, but so true ;) !
At least I'm consistent. It's hard to say what your aura and personality is since you have done a complete 360 regarding your stance on MDawg. I have even brought that fact up before, but you avoided addressing that issue.
Thanks but no thanks.
Quote: OnceDearOK. Block Threads if you wish. There's a chance you might miss something.
Great suggestion. If you ignore it, you stand a great chance to once again, foam at the mouth, and make your 200th post about how you are mathematically insulted and are only posting to help the poor gambling neophyte, whose having his first day on this site, needs to be educated.
Quote: DeMangoGreat suggestion. If you ignore it, you stand a great chance to once again, foam at the mouth, and make your 200th post about how you are mathematically insulted and are only posting to help the poor gambling neophyte, whose having his first day on this site, needs to be educated.
Thanks you just made the coffee come out of my nose, I was just taking a sip of it as I read your great post.
Said the guy whose average post seems to be about 16 words(probably more, but you get the point). How is that a one-liner anyways? I asked you how I was projecting, and I followed it up with a comment. You now suddenly claim one-liners and post count after all this time as an excuse and a lame attempt to yet again avoid addressing a puzzling question about your flip-flopping.Quote: Marcusclark66I refuse to feed into your one-liners which I would contribute to building your post count.
Thanks but no thanks.
In the future, I suggest you refer back to what you said on March 26th, 2021 at 6:39:02 AM and follow your own advice when it comes to me.
He teach me to win so much money
Will MDawg teach me too
I want to win everyday
These guys need to help more of us
Don’t be greedy share the wealth
Christopher help us for free
MDawg please do the same
Casinos bad
LOL @ New member not strictly speaking, breaking the rules.Quote: SimplythebestThis MDawg guy good but Christopher Mitchell better
He teach me to win so much money
Will MDawg teach me too
I want to win everyday
These guys need to help more of us
Don’t be greedy share the wealth
Christopher help us for free
MDawg please do the same
Casinos bad
When I came up there was one other player at the table I picked, decided to go with it. Was one of those players that bets side bets on EVERY hand? How did you know the ___ was going to hit? Oh, that's right, you bet it every hand.
But anyway, must have been this player's lucky day because was eventually up over twenty grand just on those side bets! I won some, but not much. If I had been a novice player I might've even been sucked into betting those side bets with him. Player managed to drag away from the table when was still up about 17K. I believe was a local.
On the second shoe, I was winning a bit, but when I started chunking the 500 chips on a hand here or there, I was losing. I believe I lost a 1500 hand or maybe even two 1500 hands as well, then, I looked at the shoe and declared that three more Players were a'coming. 2000 win!, 2500 win!...pause. Debate. 3000! and win. I drew a natural eight on two of those hands, and won all three. I kept winning after that and ended up tipping out 250 to the dealer via side bets although for a while there, it was looking like the dealer and I couldn't win a single hand together as something like four 50 dollar side bets went to waste. It was, interestingly, after I reduced to just 25 for the dealer on the side that we started winning together.
At the end of the second shoe I realized that I had 13,025, paid off the 8K marker, and walked with a single 5K chip and a single 25 dollar chip. Didn't bother to cash anything, up in the suite just zipped the winning chips into the green winner's side pouch.
After winning, I spent a while just talking to the dealer. I get animated after winning and start talking a lot. The whole room seems brighter I must say.
Funny how I was down over 5K in TSLA today and then ended up not only winning on that trade but winning - coincidentally - 5K at Baccarat.
As someone just said, This guy wins at everything.
Quote: JohnzimboHow else does someone win EVERY session though???? 😁
In the fairy tale Hansel and Gretel how did
the witch build an entire house out of
gingerbread? Figure that one out and
you'll have your answer.
Re-Read that like 25 times, then you will absorb it and should be relaxing for you!
Quote: AxelWolfSaid the guy whose average post seems to be about 16 words(probably more, but you get the point). How is that a one-liner anyways? I asked you how I was projecting, and I followed it up with a comment. You now suddenly claim one-liners and post count after all this time as an excuse and a lame attempt to yet again avoid addressing a puzzling question about your flip-flopping.
In the future, I suggest you refer back to what you said on March 26th, 2021 at 6:39:02 AM and follow your own advice when it comes to me.
Axel,
Let me ask, how is it you know everything about gambling, casinos, security, Las Vegas Forum members, posts from several years ago, postings from just the other day, California, Nevada, Texas, Michigan, New York, Florida, virtually everywhere in the United States, cars, food, restaurants, the stock market, jobs, what people make, what people win, what people lose, music, shows, TV, history, virtually damn near everything?
Yet you spend so much time researching what people write on the forums you even count all of the words and all of their posts and average them together to come up with an average word count on people. How is it you know all of this and how is it you even have time to gamble at the casinos with all of your endeavors in great detail on the Forum? And not just this forum, other forums I have run across as well, you're everywhere posting all kinds of stuff as well?
But the biggest question is how do you know all the things you post about people you never met?
Quote: Marcusclark66Axel,
Let me ask, how is it you know everything about gambling, casinos, security, Las Vegas Forum members, posts from several years ago, postings from just the other day, California, Nevada, Texas, Michigan, New York, Florida, virtually everywhere in the United States, cars, food, restaurants, the stock market, jobs, what people make, what people win, what people lose, music, shows, TV, history, virtually damn near everything?
Yet you spend so much time researching what people write on the forums you even count all of the words and all of their posts and average them together to come up with an average word count on people. How is it you know all of this and how is it you even have time to gamble at the casinos with all of your endeavors in great detail on the Forum? And not just this forum, other forums I have run across as well, you're everywhere posting all kinds of stuff as well?
But the biggest question is how do you know all the things you post about people you never met?
You can tell a lot about someone you never met by their claims.
2+2=5.
I say it's true. You say it's false.
I say you never met me so how can you know anything about me! Don't call me a liar.
Wizard says calling people a liar is an insult so just move on.
So Marcus, 2+2=5. Why do you doubt me? You know nothing about me. You never met me!
Quote: MDawg
As someone just said, This guy wins at everything.
Ramona Quimby won at everything. God Bless you Beverly Cleary.
Quote: sabreRamona Quimby won at everything. God Bless you Beverly Cleary.
yes, but, Ramona Geraldine Quimby is a fictional character
Quote: OnceDearyes, but, Ramona Geraldine Quimby is a fictional character
But aren't we all?
Quote: Marcusclark66Axel,
Let me ask, how is it you know everything about gambling, casinos, security, Las Vegas Forum members, posts from several years ago, postings from just the other day, California, Nevada, Texas, Michigan, New York, Florida, virtually everywhere in the United States, cars, food, restaurants, the stock market, jobs, what people make, what people win, what people lose, music, shows, TV, history, virtually damn near everything?
Yet you spend so much time researching what people write on the forums you even count all of the words and all of their posts and average them together to come up with an average word count on people. How is it you know all of this and how is it you even have time to gamble at the casinos with all of your
endeavors in great detail on the Forum? And not just this forum, other forums I have run across as well, you're everywhere posting all kinds of stuff as well?
But the biggest question is how do you know all the things you post about people you never met?
Where is mdawg.... I’m willing to play at any table stakes he is at and will follow any bet he makes completely
Quote: Marcusclark66May I please interject here?
I found this extremely appropriate and I emphasize extremely.
Last night I thought about this thread after an event happened where there was an event concerning a rail thief who grabbed some high rollers few thousand in chips and ran from the casino's main floor towards the main exit. We caught him and there was a struggle on the floor and during that struggle one of my officers got violently kicked in the face by the rail thief. You know everyone thinks everyone's job is so easy and so worthless and so unprofessional, it's easy to talk about but in reality things are quite different.
I have told countless people, if you didn't see it you don't know about it.
So hundreds if not thousands of people seen maybe 15 security officers attempting to subdue a subject that just stole someone's thousands of dollars of chips but the majority of those people did not see the officer get kicked in the face as well as that person stealing the chips. All that will get talked about is how some poor innocent casino patron got surrounded and handcuffed for something like getting tresspassed or being drunk.
Marcus, I feel a little follow-up is in order considering a week has now passed since the incident occurred. Just how is that poor unfortunate security officer doing who was violently kicked in the face from that alleged rail thief "who was on the floor at the time" being subdued by 15 security personnel? I am also curious if the alleged thief sustained any injuries while he was being subdued, by those well-trained professional security staff of yours?
There are exceptions. Last trip I had this shoe where I won almost every hand in shoe (minus ties) after I arrived about 15 hands into the shoe, and betting just two hundred a hand I won over ten grand. In that particular instance, even two hundred in freeplay chips would have gone to a lot. Years ago, I took a single hundred dollar bill to almost twenty thousand. But, absent monstrous runs like that, five hunny in freeplay doesn't make much difference to me, other than the nicety of getting something for "nothing."
Quote: darkozYou can tell a lot about someone you never met by their claims.
2+2=5.
I say it's true. You say it's false.
I say you never met me so how can you know anything about me! Don't call me a liar.
Wizard says calling people a liar is an insult so just move on.
So Marcus, 2+2=5. Why do you doubt me? You know nothing about me. You never met me!
Never doubted you.
I was addressing my comments to Axel and I'm just absolutely overwhelmed by how he knows everything about everything that's all. I never said the word liar and I don't believe I insinuated it. If you believe I insinuated it you assumed and those are your words and not mine.
Thank you.
Quote: MDawg
There are exceptions. Last trip I had this shoe where I won almost every hand in shoe (minus ties) after I arrived about 15 hands into the shoe, and betting just two hundred a hand I won over ten grand.
So after skipping the first 15 hands you must have played around 70 hands. 10k winner @ $200/hand means you net 50 wins.
Let's assume you won 60 hands then and lost 10 to accomplish this.
1 - BINOMDIST(60,70,.51,TRUE) = 1.80381E-10
Wow, a 5.5 billion to 1 event. Pretty improbable for mere mortals, but I'm sure to you it's just another Tuesday.
Stay hydrated.
Quote: BoSoxMarcus, I feel a little follow-up is in order considering a week has now passed since the incident occurred. Just how is that poor unfortunate security officer doing who was violently kicked in the face from that alleged rail thief "who was on the floor at the time" being subdued by 15 security personnel? I am also curious if the alleged thief sustained any injuries while he was being subdued, by those well-trained professional security staff of yours?
The one security officer that initially pursued the thief was struggling with him as he caught him and the thief grabbed his auxiliary belt that holds his handcuffs, tazer gun, etc and the thief was on top of the security officer as he quickly got up and then he kicked the officer in the face.
The security officer has a broken jaw bone, a broken nose and some dental problems. The person was then apprehended by the other officers that were a few seconds away after that happened seconds earlier.
There was no injury to the thief except maybe his ego and for sure a substantial prison sentence coming up.
Please re-read what I posted as I do not believe I said there was fifteen security officers already on the thief when he kicked the one officer in the face. Thank you.
Quote: OnceDearYou guys don't get to over-rule. Nor set penalties.You can say 'I object' or you can block posts, but then you take your chances.
Quote: BoSoxI also rephrased the wording of my post from being a challenger to that of an objector of the point.
OnceDear, I just want to find out if the proper procedure was used by myself in stating my objection? If not what is the proper procedure? Any member who does make an objection do they get an answer-back? I think that they deserve that.
On point of fact, I do not know what the big deal was in my objection anyway. All I was looking for was a review by the administration for a possible change of page for MDawg's adventure. If I am wrong in my thinking please explain the error in my thinking. Thank you.