The Adventures of MDawg
Quote: MDawgAll right, so now you're calling me a liar. Saying that what I have stated that I have done is "impossible" is akin to calling it "fiction."
I'm not calling you a liar
I do very little gambling because it's not logically sound if it's an EV minus game.
Just seems so illogical to me
It would be impossible for me to make money in the long run. Maybe its possible for you but I doubt it.
It's hard math vs what is probably fiction.
I am not calling you a liar
I am giving you the benefit of the doubt by asking to see the impossible for myself
Quote: MDawgAll right, so now you're calling me a liar. Saying that what I have stated that I have done is "impossible" is akin to calling it "fiction."
Sounds to me YOU are calling Ed a liar! He has stated something is impossible, and you are saying he is lying!
Anyway, since this is MDawg thread, do you see a stock market bubble? I have never been a ‘market timer’, but I am getting worried... what about you? I’m around 70/25/5 now (stocks bonds cash).
Quote: TDVegasPosting a claim and stating “that it is fact”....does not make it fact here. You would have to provide proof of fact that satisfies the other persons belief. It may be fact to you....but that means diddly here.
I actually have posted a lot to back up my claims over the past few years. A thousand fold more than anyone else has ever posted in the way of proof in the history of the WOV.
But even if I posted nothing at all other than my sincere belief that what I state is true....
What I post, stands.
Quote: MDawgWizard, which wager?
Mathematically there might not be so much variance in Baccarat, for someone who bets Bank every hand. But there is a tremendous amount of variance between the shoes where I win a lot and the shoes where I lose or break even, based on the way I play. I'd get into details, but it might take a dissertation.
Doesn’t matter...it’s STILL a negative expectation. You would have to provide something beyond your usual claim of varying bet size, streaks, variance, length of play, waiting for deck to turn, “feeling”, intuition, doubling down, etc.
None of that overcomes house edge. You can obviously believe whatever you want...but your posts here seem intent on others joining in on that belief.
Quote: MDawgI actually have posted a lot to back up my claims over the past few years. A thousand fold more than anyone else has ever posted in the way of proof in the history of the WOV.
But even if I posted nothing at all other than my sincere belief that what I state is true....
What I post, stands.
Disbelief or non belief is NOT calling you a liar. It simply means you have not provided enough proof to satisfy their belief. Posting pictures of watches or Cheques or dinners....is not something anyone, in my view, will cause them to believe you are beating baccarat. They may believe you gamble big, bet big....que sera, sera, there are LOT of people out there that do that.
Claims of beating gambling games is one of those things that I doubt anyone is going to go thru the motions to actually prove at the table. It would likely take a lot of play to get a level of confidence one is actually beating a game.
Quote: MDawgI actually have posted a lot to back up my claims over the past few years. A thousand fold more than anyone else has ever posted in the way of proof in the history of the WOV.
What I post, stands.
That's actually false
I see a lot of writing and pics but it's not proof
I have posted proof on WOV
Mission said he could do the mcnugget challenge. I
Videotaped the fail and posted it.
That's real proof of the fail
I see no proof from you regarding consistently winning at a negative EV game.
No proof at all
Nothing. Nada. Zilch
Quote: MDawgWizard, which wager?
This one:
Quote: MDawgIf anyone is so certain that what I have posted is not true, then let's arrange a wager for some real money that makes it worth our time.
I'll let you go first as to what you propose.
Quote: MDawgI'm just reporting what happened and has happened during my lifetime, concentrating on the past few years in terms of detail. And again, I've posted more proof than anyone else in the history of WOV. I don't mind engaging further online, but in the flesh, it is going to cost you and cost you dearly to dare to challenge my veracity as to anything I have claimed in the way of past events.
It’s not costing anyone anything to not believe or disbelieve your claims. Or believe them. YOU don’t get to decide what constitutes proof. They do...or at worst you and that person must agree what constitutes proof.
Quote: MDawgMDawg's evidence / proof is on a whole different level.
I have not seen any evidence.
Working with Rudy and Sidney? Lol
Watches?
Chips?
Pictures of baccarat shoes?
Paid markers?
Winning bank checks from casinos?
Video of me logged into my casino player accounts to show win statements that just happened to corroborate the exact sums I had claimed to have won over the course of two years of posts?
Photos of hotel television screen folios?
Texts from hosts?
Emails from casinos and hosts?
Logins to casino promotions?
Did I miss anything? Speaking only to CB, which evidence did you find convincing?
Quote: MDawg
Did I miss anything? Speaking only to CB, which evidence did you find convincing?
You missed proof and real evidence
You taking lessons from Rudy and Sidney?
Wealth is not proof that you are consistently beating a negative ev game over the long run
None of those pictures show any bets being made or paid. There's alternative theories other than any actual high rolling going on. I have posted up my own theories that would explain most of the pictures we have seen.Quote: TDVegasQuote: MDawgI actually have posted a lot to back up my claims over the past few years. A thousand fold more than anyone else has ever posted in the way of proof in the history of the WOV.
But even if I posted nothing at all other than my sincere belief that what I state is true....
What I post, stands.
Disbelief or non belief is NOT calling you a liar. It simply means you have not provided enough proof to satisfy their belief. Posting pictures of watches or Cheques or dinners....is not something anyone, in my view, will cause them to believe you are beating baccarat. They may believe you gamble big, bet big....que sera, sera, there are LOT of people out there that do that.
Claims of beating gambling games is one of those things that I doubt anyone is going to go thru the motions to actually prove at the table. It would likely take a lot of play to get a level of confidence one is actually beating a game.
There's no proof of personal wealth either.Quote: terapinedYou missed proof and real evidence
You taking lessons from Rudy and Sidney?
Wealth is not proof that you are consistently beating a negative ev game over the long run
Quote: MDawg
I think the people who object the most to the evidence here are the ones least familiar with how all this works.
I've posted a thousand fold more evidence than anyone here has ever dared to post.
I'm awaiting CoachBelly's analysis. Many of the rest of you, I contend, do not understand any of this. I mean AxelWolf - we're talking about a guy who didn't seem to comprehend that markers with the signature torn out are posted after they have been paid back, after the play.
And let's not forget that he posted asking for a CTR - meaning that he thought that a CTR was a slip of paper that is handed over to a player that might be offered up as proof of a win, and AxelWolf apparently thought that a million dollar table game winner would ever cash out in cash to begin with! to even be issued a CTR. I don't take someone like that seriously.
Quote: MDawgI've posted a thousand fold more evidence than anyone here has ever dared to post.
What is your purpose of posting weak evidence
Why?
It's impossible to win at a negative EV game in the long run. That's a fact. Don't need evidence. Can provide it and it won't require a wager.
One of the most absurd positions on this thread is requiring a huge wager to prove what is impossible, possible
Quote: MDawgYou sound like a broken record - that contradicts itself. If it's impossible, then show up with any amount of money to take on the Wager. As said, I may withdraw up to million without any problem, quickly, I'd need a bit longer for more than that, but 50,000 is enough to make it worth my while. Put it up. Or shut up.
Lol,
202 pages of "I can win -ev games against the odds"
No broken records here :)
Quote: MDawg
I'm awaiting CoachBelly's analysis.
Just send him a PM
If he believes the impossible is possible then both of you can agree privately that the impossible is possible.
It's kind of absurd to go on a public forum trying to prove the impossible is possible with really no evidence.
I personally think the impossible is impossible. It is what it is.
Prove me wrong.
Do you retain Sidney Powell?
Bottom line of this thread, an offer to prove the impossible is possible for 50k
I don't need to spend 50k. I know what's impossible without spending 50k
Quote: MDawgAnd again, I've posted more proof than anyone else in the history of WOV.
I have yet to see anything convincing. As I recall you recently posted a picture of a lot of money and chips on a bed. How I know you didn't bring significantly more money to Vegas? Here are things I would like to see:
1. A demonstration of your play
2. Log books of wins/losses
3. Income tax return returns
4. Casino win/loss statements
That, sir is the absolute truth. You have illustrated your thread remarkably thoroughly. You've also put a lot of effort into convincing a bunch of internet strangers that you are the real deal, a top guy. king of the hill. It's obvious you value the adulation of your online friends and the jealousy of your online detractors. Or so it seems, to me. You seem to take pride in the traffic that your thread brings, and yet why? You don't monetize it?Quote: MDawgI've posted a thousand fold more evidence than anyone here has ever dared to post.
I don't quite understand why you now want to 'charge' your friends here for the opportunity for you to cock the ultimate snook at them.
Wizard gave you the right to make your incredible claims here, though it's contrary to the very purpose of this forum. Strange, isn't it?
I'm grateful to Wizard for acknowledging that we may not only not believe, your claims, but that we can actually post that we do not believe your claims. What we cannot do is call you dishonest. Tricky to reconcile.
Though I believe wizard has contradicted himself a little, he did most recently say (my bolding)...
Quote: wizardMDawg is allowed to say those things. The rest of the forum may say they don't believe him, but they may not say MDawg is lying. Assuming your paraphrasing is correct, I wouldn't believe him either in the same way I don't believe Alan's 18 yo's in a row.
I'm not calling anyone a liar. I'm calling MDawg a user ID on an anonymous internet forum. Everything beyond that is 'content' The content is entertaining. Kudos to the author of Mdawg's posts for that.
Ultimately, all that we know about the author of MDawg's posts is what he has told us in those posts (Plus the IP of his chosen VPN )
Now.... A request to MDawg. Please stop lobbying for the suspension of your fellow members. That, in some circles is the epitome of trolling.
This thread reminds me of the Varmenti, the pro gambler that always won at baccarat
Dawg and Varmenti related?
AIUI, So far the only members on this forum who know who Mdawg's user Id is owned by are MDawg and.... Well Mdawg. He sure as hell values his anonymity, some might say at about $50k.Quote: terapinedhttps://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/15264-i-have-a-winning-system-but-i-dont-know-how-to-properly-prove-it-any-suggestions/
This thread reminds me of the Varmenti, the pro gambler that always won at baccarat
Dawg and Varmenti related?
Quote: terapinedhttps://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/15264-i-have-a-winning-system-but-i-dont-know-how-to-properly-prove-it-any-suggestions/
This thread reminds me of the Varmenti, the pro gambler that always won at baccarat
Dawg and Varmenti related?
That was Vince. He also made the rounds to other forums. I thought his profession was craps, not baccarat? Or was it blackjack? He also sung some great tunes.
Then maybe, just maybe the “can I now watch” approach would not have been subjected to this “$50,000 finder fee” or whatever it is, charge....?
Who charges a believer, anyway?
Missed opportunity.
Quote: MDawgAgain, MDawg calls the shots here, not you, so stop saying "Stop calling" to me. And the reason I call the shots is that I just spent nearly seven weeks in Vegas, won nearly $74K, and was fully comp'ed to the tune of mmm...60K or so. That is a fact and unless you have direct proof to the contrary, your post is libelous ("impossible") and suspension worthy, according to the way the Wizard has stated the rules.
Mdawg does not call the shots, Mdawg is but merely a guest at Mike’s site. You CLAIM to have won 74k with absolutely no proof showing actual bets or actual payment of those bets. I could take a picture of 74k on a bed right now and say hey look I beat baccarat. Again despite the fact that you think this mdawg’s world and we are living in it I get to not believe your claims and I get to point out that your claims are mathematically impossible. You do not get to claim things that go against reason and then call for suspensions when anyone with half a brain knows that your claims go against math.
MATH> the dog
Quote: kewljI proposed terms earlier today
I've been out most of the day and must have missed that.
I looked through your posting history and couldn't find it.
Was it on this forum?
Quote: OnceDearHe sure as hell values his anonymity, some might say at about $50k.
I am very conflicted by this thread and situation. I am not a believer that anyone has to prove anything. I am challenged on different forums on everything from if I am an AP making the modest amounts I claim, to challenges to techniques like tracking a second table at times, to if I work in a fast food restaurant, to if I am living off my late partners money because he was my sugardaddy. People can believe what they want to believe. People WILL believe what they want to believe!
No one should have to prove anything, especially as far as income and advantage play. If that is required, there will be few if any AP's that participate here, or on any message board, because we value our anonymity and fight a daily fight with the casino industry. And it really isn't that hard for anyone to figure out who is legit, "who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking". It is kind of each person's responsibility to figure some of that out for him/herself.
BUT that is all assuming the math works. Once you get into claims that defy math (and logic), and ESPECIALLY a long running thread of hundreds of pages, complete with pictures of chips, piles of cash, comped suites, and everything else under the sun. If that math doesn't work, that is all like staged evidence at a crime scene to throw people off. AND inevitably, when challenged there is always some kind of high end wager proposed, with unfair conditions, with the person knowing the amount and conditions are unlikely to be met, just as happened here.
So I am conflicted. No one has to prove anything. But yet the math HAS to work. Claims cannot defy math and reality. That is the low bar that must be cleared.
Quote: coachbellyI've been out most of the day and must have missed that.
I looked through your posting history and couldn't find it.
Was it on this forum?
Page 195 of this thread, last post on the page. It is minutes before and after two of your posts, so not sure why you missed it.
Quote: MDawgCoachBelly, what sorts of evidence have I posted that you find convincing?
Watches?
Chips?
Pictures of baccarat shoes?
Paid markers?
Winning bank checks from casinos?
Video of me logged into my casino player accounts to show win statements that just happened to corroborate the exact sums I had claimed to have won over the course of two years of posts?
Photos of hotel television screen folios?
Texts from hosts?
Emails from casinos and hosts?
Logins to casino promotions?
Did I miss anything? Speaking only to CB, which evidence did you find convincing?
I've been out most of the day, just getting to this now.
I find the preponderance of evidence convincing, I can't point to anything you posted that looks faked.
But you've been accused of falsifying claims, and my opinion is that your accusers should prove that.
Simply stating that it's impossible is not proof, and none have presented math that can disprove your claims.
Now it seems the Wizard is willing to accept your challenge,
and he's listed documentation that he's apparently prepared to accept as proof.
Here's a summary of the MDawg challenge, and some relevant replies.
I hope that the Wizard still agrees to accept, and I don't believe he'll be able to prove
that you're lying by examining the documents he listed.
Quote: MDawgThe bet is that EVERYTHING I posted in THIS post
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/trip-reports/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/35/#post785503
is 100% true.
I'll put up fifty thousand which I have right on me, or more if you want me to go to the bank. We have Wizard hold our bankrolls - $100,000. - while we both remain in his presence. We will all three of us meet at the casino I am at now, we'll first verify everything is true as to THIS casino, then I'll have them give us a car and we'll be limo'ed to the other two resorts we were at prior to this one, and verify the wins and info at those two resorts too.
If ANY TINY bit of what I posted in THAT post is false, I lose. Otherwise, all your stupid cash is mine.
-I have been in Vegas continuously since very early October.
-I have won – net ahead – the exact figures (or more) as posted at TruePassage – at both of the resorts we were at before this one, and am net ahead some additional twenty grand at the moment, representing just the win at this third resort. [This is as of 11/18/2020, which I am now actually a bit further ahead (about four grand more) than twenty thousand at this resort.]
-That at this resort as of today [meaning - yesterday 11/18/2020], I have put in some 71 hours in play, at a 1200 average, with a theoretical loss of some seventy thousand dollars.
-That I have played almost every single day at all three resorts, pretty much every day other than check in and check out days.
-That all of the suites, room, food, beverage, and spa, have been comp’ed, to the tune of some fifty thousand dollars of comp’ed goods and services.
-That I also got a 1000 shopping spree.
As far as the side bet, I will bet any amount of money that my host yesterday sought my advice on how to win at casinos.
Quote: WizardI am generally willing to officiate a bet. I am not sure how I would verify everything MDawg said,
but am open to negotiating the details of two parties are at least close to a bet.
Quote: MDawgI am willing to have the above claims I made above subject to any level of scrutiny by the Wizard in the presence of the bettor, after he puts up his cash alongside mine for the Wizard to hold. Unless you think I somehow have the ability to get into the computers and minds of the staff at these casinos, there is no way to fake any of this. We may go from hotel staff, to casino hosts, to wherever else you might suggest. Everyone will verify. I play alone and choose my own bets. My facts will be corroborated across the line any way you want to slice it.
Quote: WizardI have yet to see anything convincing. Here are things I would like to see:
1. A demonstration of your play
2. Log books of wins/losses
3. Income tax return returns
4. Casino win/loss statements
Wizard should be more specific as to the dates of the documents above, otherwise it's problematic.
For instance, he shouldn't expect your tax returns for 2020 to be immediately available.
Quote: kewljIt is kind of funny, I proposed terms earlier today, real terms, for an amount more than double what MDawg claims is needed
Quote: kewljPage 195 of this thread, last post on the page.
Quote: kewljAny wager would have to involve witnesses, watching your play, every session, to see if you win every session as you claim and if you are an overall winner. Anything else is nonsense. The other stipulation is going to be that we pick the casinos, tables and dealers. There is going to be no opportunity for collusion with casino personnel favorable to you. No opportunity to stage anything. If you can win every session and win all the time, this shouldn't be an issue.
Now if you want to make arrangements for a wager under these terms, I can put together a group that will take the action. That way we will have plenty of witnesses. Maybe someone can even film it with a body cam. So if you are agreeable to a fair and honest wager of these terms, let me know.
Where is the amount named?
My initial reaction is that MDawg should pick the casino.
The collusion or staging you imply is absurd and illegal, no strip casino will risk doing anything like that.
But if that's what you insist, then I would advise that it's an unreasonable condition and not to accept.
Quote: terapinedDo you retain Sidney Powell?
Quote: terapinedI have not seen any evidence.
Working with Rudy and Sidney? Lol
MDawg has a negative opinion of Sidney and Rudy. Thus, your sentence is five days for personal insult and making a political statement.
Quote: kewljI proposed terms earlier today that include witnesses watching MDawgs play and where I select the table and dealer to insure there is no collusion
You are proposing future play.
How would such an event disprove MDawg's claims of past results?
Quote: coachbellyYou are proposing future play.
How would such an event disprove MDawg's claims of past results?
Frankly, I don't see how this even concerns you. You are simply instigating, as you often do. You seem to be "baiting" me and "baiting" Wizard at the same time. Just let it go.
Quote: kewljI don't see how this even concerns you.
I was invited to participate in the discussion.
I'm the voice of reason.
You've posted the same exact thing up umpteen times and you've been called out for it a number of times. I've already given a sufficient explanation, but you keep bringing it up because it's basically the only thing (you think) you have.Quote: MDawgI've posted a thousand fold more evidence than anyone here has ever dared to post.
I'm awaiting CoachBelly's analysis. Many of the rest of you, I contend, do not understand any of this. I mean AxelWolf - we're talking about a guy who didn't seem to comprehend that markers with the signature torn out are posted after they have been paid back, after the play.
And let's not forget that he posted asking for a CTR - meaning that he thought that a CTR was a slip of paper that is handed over to a player that might be offered up as proof of a win, and AxelWolf apparently thought that a million dollar table game winner would ever cash out in cash to begin with! to even be issued a CTR. I don't take someone like that seriously.
Care to do a poll of who's more believable?
All can be easily faked. And you have not posted any proof this stuff is actually yours. B79 was posting his bosses life(even his wife iirc) as his own.Quote: MDawgCoachBelly, what sorts of evidence have I posted that you find convincing?
Watches?
Chips?
Pictures of baccarat shoes?
Paid markers?
Winning bank checks from casinos?
Video of me logged into my casino player accounts to show win statements that just happened to corroborate the exact sums I had claimed to have won over the course of two years of posts?
Photos of hotel television screen folios?
Texts from hosts?
Emails from casinos and hosts?
Logins to casino promotions?
Did I miss anything? Speaking only to CB, which evidence did you find convincing?
No-one has ever seen you write, think, or carry yourself.Quote: MDawgWhat cannot be faked, is the way some write, think and carry themselves. Versus the way I do.
James Bond was elegant, sauve, sophisticated, irresistible to women and immensely lucky. He wore nice watches and had the best hotel suites. If he'd been a member of this forum, there would be some doubt about the veracity of his posts..... Always assuming he was inclined to keep showing us how great he was, which I wouldn't expect.
I think James Bond was successfully faked and I tip my hat to Ian. So yes. It can be done.
Quote: OnceDearNo-one has ever seen you write, think, or carry yourself.
James Bond was elegant, sauve, sophisticated, irresistible to women and immensely lucky. He wore nice watches and had the best hotel suites. If he'd been a member of this forum, there would be some doubt about the veracity of his posts..... Always assuming he was inclined to keep showing us how great he was, which I wouldn't expect.
I think James Bond was successfully faked and I tip my hat to Ian. So yes. It can be done.
Sean Connery had grown up poor, eating potato soup most of the time. He reportedly had to be trained how to act suave debonair, etc. It was the exact opposite of the lifestyle he knew when he took on the role.
His first director, I think it was Louis Gilbert actually lived the "James Bond" lifestyle (minus the espionage). Expensive wine, women, gambling. It was he who showed Connery the way to live extravagant. He was notorious for always being broke though, plowing through any money as fast as he earned it
Quote: AxelWolfYou've posted the same exact thing up umpteen times and you've been called out for it a number of times. I've already given a sufficient explanation, but you keep bringing it up because it's basically the only thing (you think) you have.Quote: MDawgI've posted a thousand fold more evidence than anyone here has ever dared to post.
I'm awaiting CoachBelly's analysis. Many of the rest of you, I contend, do not understand any of this. I mean AxelWolf - we're talking about a guy who didn't seem to comprehend that markers with the signature torn out are posted after they have been paid back, after the play.
And let's not forget that he posted asking for a CTR - meaning that he thought that a CTR was a slip of paper that is handed over to a player that might be offered up as proof of a win, and AxelWolf apparently thought that a million dollar table game winner would ever cash out in cash to begin with! to even be issued a CTR. I don't take someone like that seriously.
Care to do a poll of who's more believable?
Oooo oooo ooo pick me pick me! It’s not the dog lol
Quote: coachbellyYou are proposing future play.
How would such an event disprove MDawg's claims of past results?
MDawg posted another bet about future play. Something about doubling the amount won or lost. Future play is more interesting to bet on, don’t you think?
Quote: Wizard
Finally, let me suggest a radical idea. If you are bothered by MDawg's claims, then don't read his posts.
Thank you, who really cares?
B79 was well written (like Mdawg), entertaining with good fictional stories and carried himself well when he first started out here back in the day. He was even good at fooling people into believing he was a host when he made a sockpuppet. He had some knowledge about higher limit play table games(mostly bacc), markers, win loss stuff and how comps worked etc. (kinda like Mdawg)Quote: OnceDearNo-one has ever seen you write, think, or carry yourself.
James Bond was elegant, sauve, sophisticated, irresistible to women and immensely lucky. He wore nice watches and had the best hotel suites. If he'd been a member of this forum, there would be some doubt about the veracity of his posts..... Always assuming he was inclined to keep showing us how great he was, which I wouldn't expect.
I think James Bond was successfully faked and I tip my hat to Ian. So yes. It can be done.
Quote: DRichThank you, who really cares?
Well, right or wrong....I care. I don't like it when people fabricate long-term big win claims, especially claims that defy math. I don't think it is fair to people that come to these forums looking for answers and truth about the math and what one can reasonably expect.
I learned almost everything I know about blackjack card counting and even other advantage play from people on different forums I have participated on. I think I joined my first forum, in 2006, in my 3rd year of blackjack play. That is only 14 years ago, but the forums were very different then. There were no people making ridiculous claims that defied the math. Or if there was, they were called out immediately and you knew to avoid them and anything they claimed.
I am so grateful for all the help, advice and just learning experiences from real players experiences that I benefited from. Just imagine if there had been all the scammers we have today misleading me. I just don't think that is fair and I believe we have a responsibility to call out claims that defy math and reality.
Michael Shackleford is highly respected and known as a gambling math expert. Even though he no longer owns them, the forums and websites that bear his name and brand (Wizard of Vegas/ Wizard of Odds) are places that players come to to learn, hear and read the truth about gambling and gambling math. Allowing claims that defy the math and reality to go unchallenged is wrong. It is just not fair to people.
Anyway, at the end of the day I'm the one who spent seven weeks in Vegas fully comp'ed, came home with just under $74K, and was able to carry on with my work virtually and continue stock trading too while there. That's the reality no matter how much time some of you wish to devote to debating it.
Quote: TigerWuMDawg is the best thing to happen to this forum in months for some people... they can't get enough of him! Haha...
