The Adventures of MDawg

Sabre: I guess I have made history then. As the dealers say about me when I peel off a two sided four to plop against my bank five when player has drawn to eight, "He's the best." AGAIN - PUT UP OR SHUT UP.


As I cash winning chips, I usually insist on the new bills. The last time I did, the cashier mentioned that some people insist on the old ones.

I just found this one, among others like it,

inside the winner's envelope, and noticed that these older bills are being sold at an average $175. on eBay. Perhaps those are only for uncirculated or somehow special (star *) older bills though? In any case, is anyone really paying a premium for bills like these?

Here is one that is neither star nor uncirculated being offered right now for a premium, but will it sell?

Quote: MDawg

Well spoken. Well said MarcusClark.

I'd just add that you have those who run a few words and those who run more than a few words, but it's still all running!

Money talks...B.S. walks.

Speaking of money, here are the current contents of the Winner's Envelope, not including about $25K in uncashed Winner's chips, the combined total being over fifty grand.


I'm still here in Vegas ready to put up $50K (minimum) of my cash against yours if any one of you is so certain that any of what I claim is untrue. That's my money - versus your B.S. My money will win.

That money could be company funds that your responsible for, hell, it could be fake for all I know(Kinda like I suspect your watches are fake or belong to someone you work for).

I'm willing to put up 50k on deposit with Mike, if you are. No bet, just earnest money for proof you actually have it and it's yours to use for any possible future challenges or bets that I or someone else may want to participate in. So now you can put up or shut up. Let me guess, you won't do it because you can't.

As usual, you come up with some stupid offer. WAGER the fifty grand that I do not have it and it's a go. If you look at the stack I posted a picture of, there is at least one serial number present, actually two I believe, including in the $5000. stack. I can't go back and change that picture. My cash will include those bills. If I have it, I win the $100,000.
BET, or are you going to slink off again?

It's actually rather unbelievable after all the paid markers, cash, chips, and actual videos of live win statements (plus videos of some of my watches as I weigh them at home) that I have posted that you revert to still talking like a seeming con man.

Are you accusing me of fakery? Say it now so that we know where you stand. People who accuse others of fakery often do so because they are well versed in chicanery and con themselves, is my experience. They can't see the real thing because they are not genuine themselves. You have told us that you have fake Rolexes, which tells us who and what you are. No wonder you think, therefore, that others could not possibly have nice things, because you seem to be saying that you have none yourself.

Have you even paid Wizard the 5500 for the watch yet?

Quote: MDawg

Well spoken. Well said MarcusClark.

Is it only well spoken when it's something you like to hear?

I posted a few links to what he said toward you previously, and it wasn't it wasn't very flattering and quite the opposite of what he's said here. Perhaps I should quote it for those who didn't click the links, and I'm thinking there's more but I didn't bother.

Yes I do recall that he didn't seem to like me when he first got here. But he definitely got over that, and it seems that the truth won him over.

What's your excuse?

Quote: MDawg

Yes I do recall that he didn't seem to like me when he first got here. But he definitely got over that, and it seems that the truth won him over.

What's your excuse?

I have no excuse, I don't need one, unless he is using a sneaky alias, he has never meet me and I suspect he hasn't meet you(no one we know has ever meet you)

Im well aware there's going to be people that just don't like me for whatever reason I rub them the wrong way, and I'm ok with that. Especially those who are unknown on this or any forum. I would be more concerned if I actually did something legitimate IRL for them to not like me.

Quote: MDawg

Yes I do recall that he didn't seem to like me when he first got here. But he definitely got over that, and it seems that the truth won him over.

What's your excuse?

Let's take a look one for now im to lazy to look for the other one as I just realized I posted the same link twice somehow..
August 17th, 2020 at 1:57:56 PMpermalink
Quote: Marcusclark66
Copied from another thread on this forum. I did not even know about this one and I found his stuff just a couple minutes ago on another forum, typical full time fictional writer is what the consensus would have to be.

"This individual was trashing the WofV forum for several reasons after being evicted. Low traffic, no traffic, not worthy of his time. Camped at other forums all the while trashing wofv.

Once the ban was lifted, he’s right back here.

That’s back stabbing stuff in my book. Trashes you behind your back. Then meets you again and tries to play it off.

Sorry. No go in my book.

Not an individual I would associate with. I’m fine with burning the bridge if that’s your final send off. I’m not fine with the two faced stuff and crawling back."

Talks negatively about wov other places and I'm not mentioning where and then comes back here and says how he single handedly accounts for a rise in internet ratings at wov.




To say conservatively ROMAFL!

Quote: MDawg

Sabre: PUT UP OR SHUT UP.

Jeez, do you EVER stop talk talk talking or are you going to show up with cash to back up your mouth.

Until then, no one here cares about your jealous dry talk.

I mean, if what you had to say weren't so dry and boring it might be something. How old are you anyway?

I'm relatively young and to me you talk like someone who must be fifty years older than I am.

Do you have any interesting anecdotes to relate in your life or have you spent its entirety in a worn out armchair dispensing know it all judgment on people who have actually lived life.

If you have something interesting to say I am sure I and others would love to hear it.

Insults filled rant imo

No, he's apparently accusing me of lying and I am saying that if he's going to do that he could make the accusations - the style of the way he says it - more interesting.

In any case, why do you keep hijacking my thread? I haven't had a suspension in something like - a year, what's your point other than to hijack?

Quote: MDawg

No, he's apparently accusing me of lying and I am saying that if he's going to do that he could make the accusations - the style of the way he says it - more interesting.

In any case, why do you keep hijacking my thread? I haven't had a suspension in something like - a year, what's your point other than to hijack?

Pointing out insults you have made in this very thread is not hijacking the thread.

And weren't you suspended until this past August? A months long suspension from the Spring. I would not call that almost a year, lol

Except that you're wrong 2/2 already, so the content is not relevant and constitutes a hijack.

Now, if I were to ask you why you blew money on a dicey stock like CYDY, that would be back on topic, since whatever I wish to discuss in my own thread, IS on topic. As your attorney I advised you long ago to dump CYDY and buy TSLA you'd be looking at a multi-bagger by now if you had listened.

Quote: MDawg

As usual, you come up with some stupid offer. WAGER the fifty grand that I do not have it and it's a go. If you look at the stack I posted a picture of, there is at least one serial number present, actually two I believe, including in the $5000. stack. I can't go back and change that picture. My cash will include those bills. If I have it, I win the $100,000.
BET, or are you going to slink off again?

It's actually rather unbelievable after all the paid markers, cash, chips, and actual videos of live win statements (plus videos of some of my watches as I weigh them at home) that I have posted that you revert to still talking like a seeming con man.

Are you accusing me of fakery? Say it now so that we know where you stand. People who accuse others of fakery often do so because they are well versed in chicanery and con themselves, is my experience. They can't see the real thing because they are not genuine themselves. You have told us that you have fake Rolexes, which tells us who and what you are. No wonder you think, therefore, that others could not possibly have nice things, because you seem to be saying that you have none yourself.

Have you even paid Wizard the 5500 for the watch yet?

I'm saying something isn't right and I'm not the only one who believes the same, they just won't come out and say it.

So exactly what does having a knock off of something say about someone? Treed lightly as you may be surprised at who else and how many might have such things.

I haven't yet discussed the watch with Mike it's not on my list of priorities nor will I let someone like you influence or goad me into a bad decision. If it's a good deal, Ill jump on it.

"As usual, you come up with some stupid offer." Speaking of stupid offers, yours is a
Doozy and set up in a way most people would be skeptical, especially when you're virtually an unknown person. Putting up earnest money to prove you have it isn't that silly especially if you are offering a bet/challenge of that size.

You know, that sort of thing makes me sick.
"If it's a good deal, Ill jump on it."

I mean seriously, I am sorry, that would show complete lack of integrity.

If I make an offer to buy a house for 7.9M, I do not LATER say...after making the offer...oh by the way, is it a good deal, I won't perform unless it is. You made an offer. If Wizard accepts it, it's a done deal. Or, are you revoking it now?

If you made an offer, and now are saying that you will not perform "unless it's a good deal" that shows lack of integrity. Your offer made it clear that you were making it sight unseen, even.

Quote: MDawg

You know, that sort of thing makes me sick.
"If it's a good deal, Ill jump on it."

I mean seriously, I am sorry, that shows complete lack of integrity.

More insults towards forum members imo

3/3 STRIKE OUT.

Opining that the proposed action of someone would demonstrate a character trait is not an insult.

Stop hijacking my thread.

Quote: MDawg

No, he's apparently accusing me of lying and I am saying that if he's going to do that he could make the accusations - the style of the way he says it - more interesting.

In any case, why do you keep hijacking my thread? I haven't had a suspension in something like - a year, what's your point other than to hijack?

You want to play the the suspension game with me? Just say the word. I'm more than happy to play(I don't need the forum for attention like some people do). I didn't complain at Marcus's clear insult or at many things of the past from you but if you want to motivate me feel free. Or you can say never mind as we already had this discussion in the past where I demand a public apology or I would be motivated to play that game. You did so on another forum, but now you're back at it. I'm not going to go out of my way to get suspended but I really am not concerned if I do. I'm certainly willing to be part of the coeternal damage if it means you'll be there as well.

You gotta read these posts more carefully. DarkOz wasn't talking about you. I wasn't talking about you.

Quote: MDawg

3/3 STRIKE OUT.

Opining that the proposed action of someone would demonstrate a character trait is not an insult.

Stop hijacking my thread.

It's a clear insult. It doesn't even make sense why someone lacks integrity for wanting to jump on a good deal. I assume most people like to jump on good deals. Ever hear of black Friday?

First of all lots of things get thrown around on these kind of forums. People read things from the past, people forget things, people amend what they read, people interpret what they read and of course people alter what they read. And when things are reposted, people who know the person that's reposting them, somehow take those very reposted versions for the truth or possibly something uncovered, pushed off as a lie or a falsehood and then the person that reposted something that's not exactly the truth or from the original poster are taken out of context.

I work with facts, I work in security and in the casino industry for many years. I've posted on here, I've made some mistakes posting and so on. The board is supposed to be fun and informative and a Q&A type of session for lots of people and as well as fiction or nonfiction type of reading session yet for other people. It's a combination of things, it's not one thing to all people there's no possible physical way. If it was one thing to one group of people the board would be a boring place and it would never have the population that it has. There are regular members that take things quite serious here for whatever reason and the mass majority of everybody is not going to know what those real underlying reasons are outside of a very small circle of their comrades. Think about it.

As far as big dog he's a man of facts in my opinion. Far as the wizard, he's a man of facts also. I post what I believe or what I see and what I interpret something to mean. That does not mean that the person reading it or yourself will agree in any way whatsoever. If you do we become comrades if you don't somehow we become sort of enemies with different agendas and that's where so much of the problems originate from.

I am very interested in this event that Big Dog proposed and offered and a few people have slammed him repeatedly and come back over and over in their attempt to squash him. I say put up the money with the Wizard and let the chips or in all actuality, the money land with the person that's telling the truth. If you're not ready to put up the money and you're not going to put up the money, you have no business stating anything. All you're doing is throwing drama into your version of fiction, attempting to push it off as nonfiction which it's not.. And that's a fact.

Quote: MDawg

3/3 STRIKE OUT.

Opining that the proposed action of someone would demonstrate a character trait is not an insult.

Stop hijacking my thread.

As NOT your attorney, may I remind you that you have no moderator status here. You don't get to dictate who posts in any thread.

OnceDear: Point taken. Neither then does DarkOz have the right to report alleged insults on the behalf of others?



AxelWolf:

I hear Wizard has a watch for sale. I'll offer 5500 for it, sight unseen. I don't even care what kind it is.

[assuming Wizard shows up with the watch asks for his 5500.]

Uh...uh...I meant that I offer 5500 only IF IT'S A GOOD DEAL. Is it?


You don't see a problem with that, AxelWolf?






MarcusClark: Good points. Thanks for the rational aside.

There are times when I come on WOV and it appears that there’s nothing truly interesting to read. Discussions are quiet or on topics I’m not that interested in. This thread I find interesting and enjoy reading, at least in moderation. Whatever happens, the ride is entertaining.

Quote: TinMan

There are times when I come on WOV and it appears that there’s nothing truly interesting to read. Discussions are quiet or on topics I’m not that interested in. This thread I find interesting and enjoy reading, at least in moderation. Whatever happens, the ride is entertaining.

"The board is supposed to be fun and informative and a Q&A type of session for lots of people and as well as fiction or nonfiction type of reading session yet for other people. It's a combination of things, it's not one thing to all people there's no possible physical way. If it was one thing to one group of people the board would be a boring place and it would never have the population that it has. There are regular members that take things quite serious here for whatever reason and the mass majority of everybody is not going to know what those real underlying reasons are outside of a very small circle of their comrades. Think about it."

Quote: MDawg

OnceDear: Point taken. Neither then does DarkOz have the right to report alleged insults on the behalf of others?



AxelWolf:

I hear Wizard has a watch for sale. I'll offer 5500 for it, sight unseen. I don't even care what kind it is.

[assuming Wizard shows up with the watch asks for his 5500.]

Uh...uh...I meant that I offer 5500 only IF IT'S A GOOD DEAL. Is it?


You don't see a problem with that, AxelWolf?






MarcusClark: Good points. Thanks for the rational aside.

I don't see any problems with what he said.

You expect him to pay $5500 for a BAD DEAL?

So if Wizard showed up with a $20 watch Axel is beholden to pay $5500 for it or lose his integrity?

Quote: MDawg

Well spoken. Well said MarcusClark.

I'd just add that you have those who run a few words and those who run more than a few words, but it's still all running!

Money talks...B.S. walks.

Speaking of money, here are the current contents of the Winner's Envelope, not including about $25K in uncashed Winner's chips, the combined total being over fifty grand.


I'm still here in Vegas ready to put up $50K (minimum) of my cash against yours if any one of you is so certain that any of what I claim is untrue. That's my money - versus your B.S. My money will win.

I simply love this guy honestly and I'm not saying that in a homosexual way, I'm saying that in a generic way, year 2020 that sucks with socializing, what I mean is lack of socializing type of way. Big Dawg is simply great there's nothing that is not great about him, factually he's straight up and I do believe he's a man of his word.

Quote: MDawg

I didn't bother reading anything after
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/trip-reports/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/35/#post785503

BUT

I'm done for today. As you know I play just one session a day. Won again today.

So, if anyone wants to do this PM the Wizard he'll get hold of me. The bet is that EVERYTHING I posted in THIS post
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/trip-reports/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/35/#post785503
is 100% true.

I'll put up fifty thousand which I have right on me, or more if you want me to go to the bank. We have Wizard hold our bankrolls - $100,000. - while we both remain in his presence. We will all three of us meet at the casino I am at now, we'll first verify everything is true as to THIS casino, then I'll have them give us a car and we'll be limo'ed to the other two resorts we were at prior to this one, and verify the wins and info at those two resorts too.

If ANY TINY bit of what I posted in THAT post

-I have been in Vegas continuously since very early October.

-I have won – net ahead – the exact figures (or more) as posted at TruePassage – at both of the resorts we were at before this one, and am net ahead some additional twenty grand at the moment, representing just the win at this third resort. [This is as of 11/18/2020, which I am now actually a bit further ahead (about four grand more) than twenty thousand at this resort.]

-That at this resort as of today [meaning - yesterday 11/18/2020], I have put in some 71 hours in play, at a 1200 average, with a theoretical loss of some seventy thousand dollars.

-That I have played almost every single day at all three resorts, pretty much every day other than check in and check out days.

-That all of the suites, room, food, beverage, and spa, have been comp’ed, to the tune of some fifty thousand dollars of comp’ed goods and services.

-That I also got a 1000 shopping spree.

is false, I lose. Otherwise, all your stupid cash is mine.

As far as the side bet, I will bet any amount of money that my host yesterday sought my advice on how to win at casinos.

PUT UP OR SHUT UP. I'm free for the rest of the day.

Yes I'm sounding like an arrogant bastard but as my host put it, he doesn't even have players who win consistently, let alone one who has been in town as long as I have been and is still winning. So at the risk of falling over, I think I am owed a huge pat on the back. C'mon, I'm ready. I'm free the rest of today.

PM the Wizard I'm ready. I have contacted him and told him about this post, and that I trust him to officiate.

Quote: Wizard

I am generally willing to officiate a bet. I am not sure how I would verify everything MDawg said, but am open to negotiating the details of two parties are at least close to a bet.

I will say that MDawg once offered to buy a watch of mine for about $5,000, but I declined.

Let's stick to the point, reread this it is a great post, it's a great challenge, it is great to all the naysayers and the people that seek drama in their regular circle, with the addition to their fiction writing in most of their posts.

Several of those I'm referring to, without naming them and pointing them out claim and have claimed repetitively to have $50,000 in so many words as walking around money. Why not scoop up an easy $50,000 get you huge bragging rights and be the member of the century by disproving what MDawg has said?

The wizard has already posted he would work out a way to officiate this and that for me is as good as gold. What are you naysayers waiting for, especially those that live in Las Vegas or close to it within say a day's drive?

My money's on Big Dawg. Like I said I work in Casino security I have been on the floor and I've been in the back room. I have taken down scumbags, I've been in scuffles and fights I've worked with local law enforcement as well as our state gaming board on countless investigations both live and behind the scenes. I know within a 99 percentile when something's going to pan out and what it's not going to pan out. Maybe I'm wrong 1% of the time but on this one I will put my own money on Big Dawg.

Wouldn't a challenge to ACTUALLY WATCH MDAWG PLAY AND WIN AT THE TABLES have more validity?

The current challenge is an easily falsified one. Trust me for fifty grand a lot can be achieved.

Why isn't MDawg saying people can actually watch him win?

MDawg specifically claims he uses nothing more than his own intuition. Not a system or Advantage play that could be compromised by watching eyes.

So MDawg come up with a legit challenge where someone can watch your actual play at $1000 per hand Baccarat.

For that matter, if MDawg can so easily beat Baccarat why not just take up Michael Bluejay stated challenge for anyone who can beat a negative EV game to demonstrate it?


https://easy.vegas/gambling/betting-system-challenge

Quote: Marcusclark66

My money's on Big Dawg. Like I said I work in Casino security I have been on the floor and I've been in the back room. I have taken down scumbags, I've been in scuffles and fights I've worked with local law enforcement as well as our state gaming board on countless investigations both live and behind the scenes. I know within a 99 percentile when something's going to pan out and what it's not going to pan out. Maybe I'm wrong 1% of the time but on this one I will put my own money on Big Dawg.

Not trying to be funny but my whole AP career is circled around fooling casino security

Quote: darkoz

Wouldn't a challenge to ACTUALLY WATCH MDAWG PLAY AND WIN AT THE TABLES have more validity?

The current challenge is an easily falsified one. Trust me for fifty grand a lot can be achieved.

Why isn't MDawg saying people can actually watch him win?

MDawg specifically claims he uses nothing more than his own intuition. Not a system or Advantage play that could be compromised by watching eyes.

So MDawg come up with a legit challenge where someone can watch your actual play at $1000 per hand Baccarat.

For that matter, if MDawg can so easily beat Baccarat why not just take up Michael Bluejay stated challenge for anyone who can beat a negative EV game to demonstrate it?


https://easy.vegas/gambling/betting-system-challenge

Oh please, you guys have posted your assumptions as factual accusations with jury returned verdicts against the Big Dawg in repeated blatant posts.

Those posts called out his claims, accused him of posting photo shopped pictures, fictitious trip reports, made up host interactions, fake shoes and lots more.

Playing is truly secondary at this point to what he has posted. Because even if he plays at this point and wins, all you're going to do is just say he just got lucky just one time it doesn't prove anything. And if he loses the session, you're going to say, see everything that he wrote was a complete lie. So either way you win and either way he loses. It doesn't matter what he plays from this point on, it matters that what he posted was the truth. And that's what he wants to prove and that's what you don't want because you will lose and he will win.

Quote: Marcusclark66

Oh please, you guys have posted your assumptions as factual accusations with jury returned verdicts against the Big Dawg in repeated blatant posts.

Those posts called out his claims, photo shopped pictures, fictitious trip reports, made up host interactions, fake shoes and lots more.

Playing is truly secondary at this point to what he has posted. Because even if he plays at this point and wins, all you're going to do is just say he just got lucky just one time it doesn't prove anything. And if he loses the session, you're going to say, see everything that he wrote was a complete lie. So either way you win and either way he loses. It doesn't matter what he plays from this point on, it matters that what he posted was the truth. And that's what he wants to prove and that's what you don't want because you will lose and he will win.

MDawg claims he can defy math.

You are correct that no wager is necessary.

Without a wager I already know that the math isn't broken.

If MDawg starts claiming that there is Oxygen in outer space and he often takes space walks sans space suit I don't need to go up in a rocket ship to measure the lack of oxygen.

I can do that from the ground here on Earth and if you want to believe that he actually can breathe in outer space go right ahead.

And yes, it's pretty easy to post photos of himself breathing in outer space without a suit. Most superhero movies do it

Quote: darkoz

MDawg claims he can defy math.

You are correct that no wager is necessary.

Without a wager I already know that the math isn't broken.

If MDawg starts claiming that there is Oxygen in outer space and he often takes space walks sans space suit I don't need to go up in a rocket ship to measure the lack of oxygen.

I can do that from the ground here on Earth and if you want to believe that he actually can breathe in outer space go right ahead.

And yes, it's pretty easy to post photos of himself breathing in outer space without a suit. Most superhero movies do it

Now you got that ex-wife/ex-girlfriend type of claimed injustice persona as to how her boyfriend or husband never used to make her orgasm even though she used to thank him each time. She would orgasm and scream with delight each time that they had a love making session. Of course when the relationship is over, she would claim he could never make her climax. And that's exactly where you're taking your accusations to. Enough of going sideways with you, it's worthless. I know Big Dawg's challenge is perfectly legitimate and I don't think anyone will take him up on it because they know inside themselves that they will lose.

Quote: Marcusclark66

Now you got that ex-wife/ex-girlfriend type of claimed injustice how her boyfriend or husband never used to make her orgasm even though she used to thank him each time. She would orgasm and scream with delight each time that they had a love making session. Of course when the relationship is over, she would claim he could never make her climax. And that's exactly where you're taking your accusations to. Enough of going sideways with you, it's worthless. I know Big Dawg's challenge is perfectly legitimate and I don't think anyone will take him up on it because they know inside themselves that they will lose.

Ummm, well, I suppose if you are asking did MDawg ever make me orgasm the answer is no.

Did I understand you correctly?

Playing is truly secondary at this point to what he has posted. Because even if he plays at this point and wins, all you're going to do is just say he just got lucky just one time it doesn't prove anything. And if he loses the session, you're going to say, see everything that he wrote was a complete lie. So either way you win and either way he loses. It doesn't matter what Big Dawg plays from this point on, it matters that what he posted was the truth.

And you are going sideways with all your space talk and all your other accusations and verdicts from the jury that only exists in your fiction writing.

Two shoes / left +4500. With eeeease.

I mean come on. Is there a better natural high (other than sex I mean, which trust me, is on the agenda right now with the wife).



P.S. Sadly, this one poor guy came up and had the temerity to bet against me most every hand. He lost his shirt, I mean everything, and he induced me to bet less. If the loser hadn't shown up I might've won double or more. A divided table doesn't usually win, but in this case, I ignored him completely. I mean the shoe was 4 player / 4 bank / 4 player / 4 bank at its best, during the hands that he lost - what more of a roadmap did the guy want??

Quote: Marcusclark66

Playing is truly secondary at this point to what he has posted. Because even if he plays at this point and wins, all you're going to do is just say he just got lucky just one time it doesn't prove anything. And if he loses the session, you're going to say, see everything that he wrote was a complete lie. So either way you win and either way he loses. It doesn't matter what Big Dawg plays from this point on, it matters that what he posted was the truth.

And you are going sideways with all your space talk and all your other accusations and verdicts from the jury that only exists in your fiction writing.

That's the way it works. What you want me to tell you? Variance should not be taken into question when someone wins?

The quality of your fictional writing is going downhill fast.

This is all ridiculous. When someone says they win 99% of their sessions while their host comps them 150% of their theo (but no promo chips or mailers, those aren't for high rollers), you treat it the same as if the person said they can walk to the moon. You laugh it off. If someone who doesn't understand that you can't walk to the moon sincerely asks if it's possible, then you just reiterate that, no, it's not possible to walk to the moon.

You don't make a bet with the person claiming they can walk to the moon.

And no, I don't think the Wizard thinks anyone can walk to the moon.

I agree with both Sabre and Boz (Notboz?)

If the guy says he can walk to the moon, then yes put him on the spot.

However if he is too giddy about it, then question not if he can walk to the moon but what type of con he is going to perpetrate to win.

Quote: darkoz

Quote: MDawg

OnceDear: Point taken. Neither then does DarkOz have the right to report alleged insults on the behalf of others?



AxelWolf:

I hear Wizard has a watch for sale. I'll offer 5500 for it, sight unseen. I don't even care what kind it is.

[assuming Wizard shows up with the watch asks for his 5500.]

Uh...uh...I meant that I offer 5500 only IF IT'S A GOOD DEAL. Is it?

You don't see a problem with that, AxelWolf?

Look... Axel is my friend.... but on this singular point I think I have to side with MDawg. MDawg offered the Wiz $5k for a watch which apparently the Wiz refused. Axel then, WITHOUT any additional information said he would pay $5,500. To me, this is Axel saying that MDawg was trying to swindle the Wiz. I can assure you if I offered the Wiz $5k for something there is NO WAY Axel just blurts out he will pay $5500 for it SIGHT UNSEEN.

Axel made a comment that he would pay $5500 for it. There were no other conditions mentioned..... until MDawg called him on it.

MD.... as far as your bet, or challenge, or whatever you want to call it, remind me.... are you are willing to let Wiz escrow your $50k before you know who is taking you up on the challenge? I mean, I would not fly out to Vegas for this and then find out that you never planned on even showing up, which is what most people expect would happen? I think if the Wiz had the escrow money that would assuage the fears of some that either A. You never were going to show up, or B. That something more nefarious was afoot, and the person carrying the opposing $50k would be 'marked'. ABOVE written by SOOPOO...


[Edit by OnceDear to tidy up quote tags]

I'm confused by the immediately preceding post.

Who wrote..."Look... Axel is my friend.... but on this singular point I think I have to side with MDawg " ?

Can it be formatted such that the quotes are in separate quote boxes, and the new post stands outside the quote boxes?

Right now it's a jumble, and I can't tell who wrote what.

Soopoo said:
<<Look... Axel is my friend.... but on this singular point I think I have to side with MDawg. MDawg offered the Wiz $5k for a watch which apparently the Wiz refused. Axel then, WITHOUT any additional information said he would pay $5,500. To me, this is Axel saying that MDawg was trying to swindle the Wiz. I can assure you if I offered the Wiz $5k for something there is NO WAY Axel just blurts out he will pay $5500 for it SIGHT UNSEEN.
Axel made a comment that he would pay $5500 for it. There were no other conditions mentioned.....>>

Exactly. I mean a man of his word does not make an offer of this type where he makes it very clear he is making the offer sight unseen and not caring what brand the watch is, and then later attach conditions to it. It's very simple. I really shouldn't have to illustrate the point further, and it's...interesting that DarkOz and AxelWolf both can't see that, but then, this is why I would never deal with either of them. A man's word is his bond, but apparently these two don't see it that way, with their...interesting outlook on what constitutes an Offer.


Hi Soopoo. I am relaxing in the suite. I played just the one session today, as usual, won the 4500 and am done until tomorrow. However, in that I am now a nice bit past my self imposed goal of $50,000. ahead, this might be it. One more session tomorrow and then possibly...leave Monday or Tuesday perhaps without playing any more. Been here a very long time and while I could stay longer, my wife is not into gaming whatsoever, and she's a bit tired of Vegas. I am looking into another special offer from another Strip casino, but I am not sure if will go for it. As Ozzy Osbourne once said, "I must go home." Of course, he said it because he was burned out and needed to rest. I'm doing it - going home - because I've accomplished most all of what I could have hoped for. Wasn't trying to hit a home run, but winning over fifty large and six weeks in luxury all comp'ed isn't bad, especially given that I was able to carry on my real world work virtually, and stock market trading while here. All is well! (Bitcoin is pushing 19K too...what more could you ask for?)
I am available for my Wager though up until the moment when I leave and if someone PMs the Wizard and wants to do it, the details will be set up. Indeed, I'll come back for the wager too. I mean once I am home I will post at the TruePassage forum the exact amounts won and so on, but absent some cataclysmic event tomorrow, I will go home way ahead, and fully comp'ed for the entire six plus weeks, and I will post all that and then anyone who wants to challenge its veracity I'm happy to come back here to relieve him of $50,000. - anytime!

She's going to the spa again before we leave and I hope that spa will be comp'ed too like all the prior spa treatments, but in any case I am now and have been for some time on the RFB status where whatever food we order disappears instantly from the bill, minus the tip, and unbelievably, for the first leg of this trip at this resort, before we had to move suites because we stayed so many nights that we were about to become Nevada residents and hence had to check out and check back into a different suite, the host even comp'ed off room service tips, which is practically unheard of.


Wow I just got a call from the cage. Seems that the other day when I cashed my checks 4400 and change, I was shorted 400. I had just stuffed what I assumed was 4400 into the winner’s envelope without counting it.

I went downstairs and the supervisor had me sign a couple of forms, handed over the 400 and apologized. I asked how they knew, “Was the cashier’s drawer off?” Yes. That was exactly it. But how they went from realizing the drawer was over by four hundred, to determining that I was the one shorted, I couldn’t say. When I got back up to the suite I re-counted the winner’s envelope and – sure enough – it was short four hunny! from my ongoing tally. It is correct now.

Quote: coachbelly

I'm confused by the immediately preceding post.

Who wrote..."Look... Axel is my friend.... but on this singular point I think I have to side with MDawg " ?

Can it be formatted such that the quotes are in separate quote boxes, and the new post stands outside the quote boxes?

Right now it's a jumble, and I can't tell who wrote what.

Sorry coach.... I made the error.... tried to edit to at least make clear what I posted.... If a moderator can fix it for me I would be quite happy. MDawg figured out what I wrote... and responded appropriately a post or two ago.

Quote: MDawg

once I am home I will post at the TruePassage forum the exact amounts won and so on

You've done an extraordinary job of posting your documentation.

I hope you'll continue to post photos of markers, folios, etc.

My opinion is that the naysayers owe you the opportunity to validate your claims in person.

But they insist before the fact that your documentation will be faked, so that's a dead end.

Since it's not likely you'll get any takers for your bet, so why not let the Wizard have a look without charging him?

Quote: SOOPOO

MDawg figured out what I wrote

I saw that, but he's been involved all along and understands what's going on, I just got home.

To be clear, you side with MD that Axel is reneging on his offer to buy the watch?

Quote: coachbelly

My opinion is that the naysayers owe you the opportunity to validate your claims in person.

But they insist before the fact that your documentation will be faked, so that's a dead end.

Since it's not likely you'll get any takers for your bet, so why not let the Wizard have a look without charging him?

Why should the bet involve documentation, which CAN be fabricated. MDawgs claim is that he wins nearly every session playing -EV. So if there is a bet, the proof should be someone witnessing some of his sessions and let's just see what he wins and losses. Isn't that the foolproof way?

But again, I don't see why there even need to be a bet involved, especially not one that terms are set specifically so that no one will likely agree them. MDawg has made these claims for quite sometime. He should WANT to prove just for credibility proposes. He should want to prove everyone wrong. And Wizard is the perfect guy to make arrangement to view a number of sessions, Even better would be a group of people that live or are in Vegas at the time. Why not make it as transparent as possible?

What MDawg is proposing is shady, as is this whole claim.

Quote: Boz104

How about $25,000 heads up in a boxing match.

What's the tale of the tape for this match?

Quote: kewlj

Why should the bet involve documentation

Because that is the bet, whether or not MD can prove his claims.

He laid them all out, he'll need some kind of documentation to validate the claims.

The Wizard should be an acceptable arbiter of whether documents are genuine or not.

Quote: MDawg

Soopoo said:
<<Look... Axel is my friend.... but on this singular point I think I have to side with MDawg. MDawg offered the Wiz $5k for a watch which apparently the Wiz refused. Axel then, WITHOUT any additional information said he would pay $5,500. To me, this is Axel saying that MDawg was trying to swindle the Wiz. I can assure you if I offered the Wiz $5k for something there is NO WAY Axel just blurts out he will pay $5500 for it SIGHT UNSEEN.
Axel made a comment that he would pay $5500 for it. There were no other conditions mentioned.....>>

Exactly. I mean a man of his word does not make an offer of this type where he makes it very clear he is making the offer sight unseen and not caring what brand the watch is, and then later attach conditions to it. It's very simple. I really shouldn't have to illustrate the point further, and it's...interesting that DarkOz and AxelWolf both can't see that, but then, this is why I would never deal with either of them. A man's word is his bond, but apparently these two don't see it that way, with their...interesting outlook on what constitutes an Offer.

If someone paid $5000 sight unseen and the watch turned out to be worth $20, not only was that person in the right to refuse such a transaction but the law would define that most likely as "unjust enrichment".

https://legaldictionary.net/unjust-enrichment/

There are plenty of examples.

You agree to paint someone's property. You ask how many rooms and they tell you just one.

When you arrive it's a local school and the one room is the gymnasium.

Are you honor bound to paint a gymnasium because you quoted a price for an average room?

Of course not.

Likewise if Axel offers $5000 for a watch which turns out to be worth $20 he is not honor bound to close the transaction.

eBay has a dispute center WHERIN IF THE GOODS DON'T MATCH AS DESCRIBED you can get your money back. Even committing to a purchase on eBay isn't honor bound if the transaction was unjust

Quote: Marcusclark66

First of all lots of things get thrown around on these kind of forums. People read things from the past, people forget things, people amend what they read, people interpret what they read and of course people alter what they read. And when things are reposted, people who know the person that's reposting them, somehow take those very reposted versions for the truth or possibly something uncovered, pushed off as a lie or a falsehood and then the person that reposted something that's not exactly the truth or from the original poster are taken out of context.

I work with facts, I work in security and in the casino industry for many years. I've posted on here, I've made some mistakes posting and so on. The board is supposed to be fun and informative and a Q&A type of session for lots of people and as well as fiction or nonfiction type of reading session yet for other people. It's a combination of things, it's not one thing to all people there's no possible physical way. If it was one thing to one group of people the board would be a boring place and it would never have the population that it has. There are regular members that take things quite serious here for whatever reason and the mass majority of everybody is not going to know what those real underlying reasons are outside of a very sma ll circle of their comrades. Think about it.

As far as big dog he's a man of facts in my opinion. Far as the wizard, he's a man of facts also. I post what I believe or what I see and what I interpret something to mean. That does not mean that the person reading it or yourself will agree in any way whatsoever. If you do we become comrades if you don't somehow we become sort of enemies with different agendas and that's where so much of the problems originate from.

I am very interested in this event that Big Dog proposed and offered and a few people have slammed him repeatedly and come back over and over in their attempt to squash him. I say put up the money with the Wizard and let the chips or in all actuality, the money land with the person that's telling the truth. If you're not ready to put up the money and you're not going to put up the money, you have no business stating anything. All you're doing is throwing drama into your version of fiction, attempting to push it off as nonfiction which it's not.. And that's a fact.

IIRC this entire business started with me and I'm fairly certain I'm the main person this was directed at and there's been other that keep changing. He is making an offer, there is no reason I can make a counter offer, or at least confirm he has the money. Why is that such a outrageous request and difficult thing?
I'm certainly willing to entertain a challenge IF I believe that I have a significant advantage. Im at least a contender given the right situation.

Are you a legitimate contender willing to put up the money on a side? If not, maybe it's you that no business stating anything.

We have been through this before with someone very similar to MDawg. The guy was well written and seemed normal at first. The had fake pictures, background, stories and all and all. It's all eerily similar to MDawg. A challenge/offer and bet was all set up and people made deals, plans etc. one or two people lost money because they believed it as he he had a number of people fooled. As you might have guessed, the guy was full of it and even turned out to be a complete crackpot. Something I suspected from the start.

Perhaps I missed something, but did he say anything about him being willing to put up the money with Mike? I vagally recall a previous discussion about having someone hold the money and he balked at that.

Here's a few facts. MDawg has made some pretty far fetched claims that almost no one believes, especially, men of facts . Assuming you have been following. Do you believe those to be facts? If you haven't been following then perhaps you should go back and read before answer.

No one here has ever meet this guy or done anything involving money or bets. MDawg has managed to dodge meeting up with anyone for a few years, even after claiming he wanted to.

I have meet a significant amount of people on here and many of them can verify I have honored bets/challenges , business deals on my word for significant amounts of money without issue going back for years. I have even helped out members with various things when they needed it, shared with useful information and helped make connections. people have seen me in action on plays in the casinos dealing with significant amounts of cash.

Quote: darkoz

if Axel offers $5000 for a watch which turns out to be worth $20 he is not honor bound to close the transaction.

Yes he is in this case, because his mouth (keyboard) wrote a check that his ass can't cash.

Same for you...your mouth wrote a check...when I meet you in AC we'll see if your ass can cash it.

And I promise to write all about it.