Wasn't really happening, although I did get up as much as 4000 at one point. Also was down as much as -6500 once. Wasn't betting much - average around 800 per hand, and closed it out just a little ahead.
+850
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's a net $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Got a 13 bank run. Was barely betting it but still walked with a cool 5K.
+5515
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's a net $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Quote: MDawgDay 92 play
Got a 13 bank run. Was barely betting it but still walked with a cool 5K.
+5515
This is what I'm praying for in my upcoming challenge. just give me a good long run and let the money roll in.
Mdawg was posting his trip reports which were documented and verified .
Wizard witnessed his play and verified it and commented in his opinion that he was doing something more enabling him to win.
I found his adventures to be interesting , informative and entertaining.
The responses to his posts were also interesting.
Is there any chance of the thread be resurrected?
Any answers?
Quote: cwwbjrFor what reason was this thread buried.
Mdawg was posting his trip reports which were documented and verified .
Wizard witnessed his play and verified it and commented in his opinion that he was doing something more enabling him to win.
I found his adventures to be interesting , informative and entertaining.
The responses to his posts were also interesting.
Is there any chance of the thread be resurrected?
Any answers?
No, thank you!
Quote: cwwbjrFor what reason was this thread buried.
Mdawg was posting his trip reports which were documented and verified .
Wizard witnessed his play and verified it and commented in his opinion that he was doing something more enabling him to win.
I found his adventures to be interesting , informative and entertaining.
The responses to his posts were also interesting.
Is there any chance of the thread be resurrected?
Any answers?
Perhaps members could petition for it to be unburied.
For whatever reason, WOV management apparently decided that people need to be treated like horses requiring blinders to keep them from viewing something that management decided they should not see easily.
Day 94 took some effort but the effort was worth it. Highest bet was $25,000.
Day 95 not as much effort needed. Highest bet $2500.
Cumulative: +34000
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's a net $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Marcus Clark
Quote: darkozI respect you, Wellbush for at least giving your system a description.
In my youth I too tinkered with Fibonacci variants fully believing in the same theories you did about winning less often to overcome house edge
It's an excellent theory but as I tried multiple variants I discovered the fatal flaw in Fibonacci style sequencing. (The mathletes here will say it's house edge, etc but I will give you a specific reason it doesn't work and that's from experience).
I would save you pain (both financial, mental (I would obsess over my methods) and time wise. And perhaps respect wise on this forum)
Ultimately you probably won't believe the naysayers advice. I would not have either. You will become a naysayer yourself in time b(after the mental, financial losses. I know because I too was stubborn).
Anyway, if I am off your block list I will give you the free and main reason for Fibonacci failure you are overlooking which comes from my own (,pre-advantage play days)
Well, I don't necessarily think I'm stubborn DOz, but i'm happy to hear you out. i don't think i know it all, unlike some around here (i won't mention any names coz they'll undoubtedly be insulted by the truth!). so fire away...
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I assumed that Henry Fonda was holding a Royal or Straight Flush and was trying to explain that to her, and I was saying to her that the Banker wouldn't have backed the play unless the hand were a certain winner, when the final scene came up. So, she's sharp with that sort of thing, I had to admit it to her right then and there as she laughed triumphantly.
i agree. twas one of the best threads going, anywhere. but alas, here they want any talk about winning to be buried. so now we can focus on the real entertainment! uhh? that no-one can win at the casinos! why have a gambling website at all, if no-one can win? oh well, maybe there are some that get entertained by that idea? every man to his whim, i guess.Quote: cwwbjrFor what reason was this thread buried.
Mdawg was posting his trip reports which were documented and verified .
Wizard witnessed his play and verified it and commented in his opinion that he was doing something more enabling him to win.
I found his adventures to be interesting , informative and entertaining.
The responses to his posts were also interesting.
Is there any chance of the thread be resurrected?
Any answers?
I let this player play at my table which was a mistake. Just led to confusion. I still won, but little.
+1530
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's a net $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
The dealer always says no more bets and waves their hand across the table but just say one card came out of the shoe, it would be for the players and its face down anyway sometimes they let a late bet ride.
I would say the other player is very vocal in the way he or she wagers as well as handles the cards and the comments made. And that does influence and adds confusion to most players while playing. Especially if they are not on the same note and level.
It would nice if the losers lost every hand, but they don't - they just lose most of their hands.
Quote: Marcusclark66You have to place your bet before the cards come out, you could bet on the banker cards it doesn't matter. I don't think understand Baccarat. And there is no increasing, doubling down or anything else such as in blackjack.
The dealer always says no more bets and waves their hand across the table but just say one card came out of the shoe, it would be for the players and its face down anyway sometimes they let a late bet ride.
I would say the other player is very vocal in the way he or she wagers as well as handles the cards and the comments made. And that does influence and adds confusion to most players while playing. Especially if they are not on the same note and level.
So, the way the rules of Baccarat work, and the fact that all bets are placed prior to the cards being dealt, it doesnt matter what any other player at the table does. They could bet the same as you and sit there quietly, or they could bet the opposite and recite the Gettysburg Address in a foreign language to the beat of a rap song and the next 4-6 cards are the next 4-6 cards.
There is no note. There is no level.
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Well, if I take a day off today, which I might, today would be a day that no chips will fly. Out of the tray into my hands as I win.
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Quote: mwalz9So, the way the rules of Baccarat work, and the fact that all bets are placed prior to the cards being dealt, it doesnt matter what any other player at the table does. They could bet the same as you and sit there quietly, or they could bet the opposite and recite the Gettysburg Address in a foreign language to the beat of a rap song and the next 4-6 cards are the next 4-6 cards.
There is no note. There is no level.
What I was trying to say, people that are playing all of a sudden fall prey to others that won a few hands and get very vocal and recite why they won along with their fallacy of what's going to happen and at times it doesn't play out that way and it confuses people and it throws in that traditional monkey wrench to their own play.
If you want to twist and turn go ahead, thanks for reading.
Quote: Marcusclark66What I was trying to say, people that are playing all of a sudden fall prey to others that won a few hands and get very vocal and recite why they won along with their fallacy of what's going to happen and at times it doesn't play out that way and it confuses people and it throws in that traditional monkey wrench to their own play.
If you want to twist and turn go ahead, thanks for reading.
3 guys are playing baccarat. 1 bets PLAYER. 1 bets BANKER. 1 bets TIE.
1 is right. 2 are wrong.
No one knows till the cards are dealt and nothing done before or after the cards are dealt and exposed matters!
Helluva session. Bet up to $20000 (on one hand) but ended up barely winning anything. Lot of back and forth.
When I’m behind and I come back to even I try to stop.
+75
Did earn a lot of comps, but then I always do that. Dealers won more than I did that I tipped out via side bets for them. But...can you put a price on a $20,000. 7 over 6 four card win?
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's a net $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Quote: ChallengedMillyThis is what I'm praying for in my upcoming challenge. just give me a good long run and let the money roll in.
There was a player over the weekend on the Strip who got a 19 Bank run followed by just 1 Player followed by 22 Banks who was playing it hard enough to net just over ONE MILLION DOLLARS. Regular player, regular limits, at one of the casinos that allows higher limits for everyone. Wish I had been there, I woulda cleaned up too. This was verified both by another player I know and again by some dealers and pit bosses.
Quote: MDawgThere was a player over the weekend on the Strip who got a 19 Bank run followed by just 1 Player followed by 22 Banks who was playing it hard enough to net just over ONE MILLION DOLLARS. Regular player, regular limits, at one of the casinos that allows higher limits for everyone. Wish I had been there, I woulda cleaned up too. This was verified both by another player I know and again by some dealers and pit bosses.
61 billion to one shot to get 41 banks in 42 trials when ignoring ties. One might find that hard to believe.
Quote: sabre61 billion to one shot to get 41 banks in 42 trials when ignoring ties. One might find that hard to believe.
Nothing is hard to believe anymore!
On my Day 97 play I was winning all of my big bets that day 7 over 6. The $20,000 bet too, was won 7 over 6.
I think the dealer just got so excited when I won that hand that forgot to toss the commission lammers into the tray. And I had been tipping the dealer somewhat consistently that session with side bets.
And I didn't even leave the table immediately. I hung around and chewed the fat with the dealer and pit boss and even pointed out the exact hand I had bet that much on later, on the video screen, when I allowed them to convert the table to public (more precisely, I allowed this one player to keep playing at my table for that session only) and let someone I was acquainted with continue to play my shoe, which actually, was a good shoe the player I allowed to step in kept winning. And while I was still hanging out at my table, I pointed to the exact Bank hand I had won, even asked for confirmation,"That was a Bank hand I bet, right?" and the pit boss confirmed, "Yes, Bank" and asked why I had bet so much on that hand. Of course I knew, but, how could I tell the pit boss?
I haven't been back to that casino since that day's play but I'm sure it is water under the bridge by now. If they were going to say something they would have in the half hour I hung around after winning.
That's +1000 E.V. on that one hand even notwithstanding my usual advantage.
Quote: Marcusclark66I thought the jealousy would have went away by now with so many of the members here.
But they are totally relentless in their attempt to belittle the Great MDawg!
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Quote: MDawgThere was a player over the weekend on the Strip who got a 19 Bank run followed by just 1 Player followed by 22 Banks who was playing it hard enough to net just over ONE MILLION DOLLARS. Regular player, regular limits, at one of the casinos that allows higher limits for everyone. Wish I had been there, I woulda cleaned up too. This was verified both by another player I know and again by some dealers and pit bosses.
That's my goal for my trip. Taking frequent breaks in the action as I hit multiple runners in a row. I called ahead and they won't take a bet over $50,000 without talking to director of gaming. Still though, for me $100,000 would be life changing money. Enough for me to go back and finish my degree.
Quote: ChallengedMillyThat's my goal for my trip. Taking frequent breaks in the action as I hit multiple runners in a row. I called ahead and they won't take a bet over $50,000 without talking to director of gaming. Still though, for me $100,000 would be life changing money. Enough for me to go back and finish my degree.
They absolutely will. But you have to deposit 'front money' upon arrival. FM will be a multipled amount larger than your desired over table max for off the street players.
Quote: ChallengedMillyThat's my goal for my trip. Taking frequent breaks in the action as I hit multiple runners in a row. I called ahead and they won't take a bet over $50,000 without talking to director of gaming. Still though, for me $100,000 would be life changing money. Enough for me to go back and finish my degree.
Years ago I had an even better run than the one that was witnessed for this other player recently, I had pushing fifty total side by side runs (over twenty on each side) separated by just one of the other side. We're talking over twenty of one side, then just a single of the other, then over twenty again of the same side as the first run. The Wizard and I discussed this run a couple of times. Back then I was betting the limit for most of the run but my goal was a quarter million and once I passed it I cut my bet to just some hundreds per hand. This shows how hard it is to play a run, even an exceptional one, for table limit all the way through.
Still, I did clear pushing three hundred K on that run even though I could have won close to a million based on table limits at that time if I had not cut my bet.
For most Vegas casinos to bet $50K a hand you need to have a credit line or front money of at least $500K. And with front money, that is not a given. Years ago I knew someone who put up $10M and still they let bet only $50K per hand, and that player lost all of it somehow, which seems odds defying to lose ten million betting at most $50K a hand but the player somehow managed it.
Had some larger bets and I won all of them, but they were mostly just bets that happened to be when I was behind. Played about 1 1/2 shoes only.
+3025
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's a net $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Quote: sabre12.4 trillion to one shot to get 49 banks in 50 trials when ignoring ties. One might find that hard to believe.
To quote Three Dog Night, "One is the loneliest number."
One might think on a site called "Wizard of Vegas," run by the "Wizard of Odds," that one might find more than one finding that hard to believe.
One might find it suspect that more than one doesn't find it suspect.
On the other hand, some folks might find solace in the fact that "no is the saddest experience you'll ever know." MDawg's odds against having reported reality aren't ever a "no." They are always a one in x. Now the x might be quite the unlikely event, but hope springs eternal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX5jNnDMfxA
Quote: drjohnnyI'm pretty sure I've spent under 1,000 hours at the bacc tables during my lifetime, yet I've already seen both the banker and player streak at least 20 hands in a row (with some ties thrown in).
I once asked a dealer what was the longest streak he's seen and he told me he's dealt a shoe with ~35 consecutive bankers. He also dealt another shoe with ~35 consecutive players. I'd give up a kidney if I could go back in time to play those 2 shoes!
Much more common than you think. Common enough that I don't even bother to take pics of all the shoes where I have hit long runs.
I won big on this shoe, then just left. 100K run.
Keep in mind - on the Wizard witnessed session, I hit 8/8 of the Player run. Not 1/8, not 2/8, not 3/8, not 4/8, not 5/8, not 6/8, not 7/8. 8/8. I do that all the time. I stated that I do that all the time before the Wizard witnessed session, and I did it in front of an audience at that session.
Quote: redietz
One might think on a site called "Wizard of Vegas," run by the "Wizard of Odds," that one might find more than one finding that hard to believe.
Well, to be fair that's just the odds of starting the 49/50 miracle bank run on the next hand you play. And frankly, a 49/50 player run would be equally awesome. So let's be generous and say it's an acute 1 in 6 trillion chance.
I'm sure a prolific baccarat player like the MDawg has put himself in a position to go on this miracle run a good 50,000 times over the course of his life. So the odds of him seeing it at least once in his lifetime are just north of 100 million to one against or so. Meaning if everyone on the planet played baccarat like him, dozens would see this crazy run during their lifetime.
Dude is a professional gambler and high stakes poker guy, who also loves to play slots and table games and of course bets ridiculous sums on it.
Mdawg you really should post more photos of these shoes. Would be interesting to see for a lot of us.
Or... player 1 bets banker because they are seated in a position that exposes every card that the dealer is dealing out. Or... player 1 bets banker because they've kept a perfect count of the shoe and they know statistically banker is supposed to come up the next 6 out of 8 hands. Or... player 1 bets banker because they're exploiting marked cards and know what's about to be dealt by edge sorting.Quote: mwalz93 guys are playing baccarat. 1 bets PLAYER. 1 bets BANKER. 1 bets TIE.
1 is right. 2 are wrong.
No one knows till the cards are dealt and nothing done before or after the cards are dealt and exposed matters!
Admittedly only two of these are more likely to happen at baccarat, and even then they are very rare.
What do you do when the shoe has the black bristles on it?
The Dawg has shown up and played like he says he does.Quote: sabre12.4 trillion to one shot to get 49 banks in 50 trials when ignoring ties. One might find that hard to believe.
Like many others here, Sabre can only commentate.
yeah, if you read back through, you'll find it was put in WOV Neverland coz it got too hot. A pity. It made the site enjoyable. Now it's boring!Quote: TDVegasThis thread no longer trends. Invisible?
Quote: Wellbushyeah, if you read back through, you'll find it was put in WOV Neverland
Ah, I see. Ok. Good.
the Dawg's currently suspended. back about 09/01/21Quote: ChallengedMillyMDawg you never bet any of the side bets do you in a baccarat session?
Quote: Wellbushthe Dawg's currently suspended. back about 09/01/21
Suspended again???
What the hell?
Is this some kind of record?
Quote: ChallengedMillyMDawg you never bet any of the side bets do you in a baccarat session?
I do bet the tie very sparingly but in general I avoid the other side bets.
Seriously!
Marcus Clark