I think MD's made it pretty obvious he's not using AP. He's using bet size variations along with an understanding of the ebb and flow of the game (baccarat).Quote: AxelWolfAs to Mdawg having an advantage, I have no clue how people came to that conclusion from Mikes's brief and cryptic message regarding that. We have no idea what meant, it could be something as simple as shaving a bit off the -EV via some free tournaments, rebate on airfare, finding a way to write it off as a business trip, or they occasionally, toss in some free play chips. There is almost zero chance he makes enough +EV to account for his claims of always winning and to have an advantage.
Quote: WellbushI think MD's made it pretty obvious he's not using AP. He's using bet size variations along with an understanding of the ebb and flow of the game (baccarat).
The understanding of the "ebb and flow of the game (baccarat)". LoL
Because we all know it always ebbs and flows the same every shoe!
Quote: WellbushI think MD's made it pretty obvious he's not using AP. He's using bet size variations along with an understanding of the ebb and flow of the game (baccarat).
And Mike Shackleford made it pretty obvious that is a losing system and nothing he observed about MDawg playing made him change his mind.
NEEEXXXXT!
Quote: darkozAnd Mike Shackleford made it pretty obvious that is a losing system and nothing he observed about MDawg playing made him change his mind.
NEEEXXXXT!
With the verification by Mr. Wizard you should give MDawg the benefit of the doubt and not lay into him the way you have been thinking he's scamming because he absolutely is not and at least Mr. WIZARD verified parts of his written story. That is much more than most other long term winners have done.
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Quote: Marcusclark66With the verification by Mr. Wizard you should give MDawg the benefit of the doubt and not lay into him the way you have been thinking he's scamming because he absolutely is not and at least Mr. WIZARD verified parts of his written story. That is much more than most other long term winners have done.
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You should remove not forming opinions of others from your tag
To not form opinions of others is fundamentally not possible
Its in our code and for good reason. Why don't you think about what
it would mean if it were not possible for you to form an opinion about another
human being.
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Quote: Marcusclark66With the verification by Mr. Wizard you should give MDawg the benefit of the doubt and not lay into him the way you have been thinking he's scamming because he absolutely is not and at least Mr. WIZARD verified parts of his written story. That is much more than most other long term winners have done.
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Marcus,
Are you claiming Wizard has verified that MDawg wins without an advantage using just intuition and luck and some type of progessive betting system?
Quote: ChumpChangeSome people's high limit room is a whales' kiddie pool.
Has the Dawg tipped a dealer a new house yet?
If not ... he ain't all that.
Quote: MrVHas the Dawg tipped a dealer a new house yet?
If not ... he ain't all that.
For the last two months: "Housing prices & lumber costs are skyrocketing!"
2 days ago: "Housing prices & lumber costs are crashing!
2 weeks from now: "Utilities go out of business as THE GREAT EVICTION kicks out customers!"
Today: "Texas electric grid warn of blackouts this week because of a heatwave!"
Quote: ChumpChangeFor the last two months: "Housing prices & lumber costs are skyrocketing!"
2 days ago: "Housing prices & lumber costs are crashing!
2 weeks from now: "Utilities go out of business as THE GREAT EVICTION kicks out customers!"
Today: "Texas electric grid warn of blackouts this week because of a heatwave!"
I would not be surprised if Vegas has rolling blackouts this week. It is supposed to be 117 a couple of times this week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNJ9M21a8HU
Quote: lilredroosterQuote: MDawgSome people (not successful Baccarat players) ask...how do you press into a run, or get on a run to begin with? How do you know it will keep up? I'd say, how do you not get on a run, whether it be a chop, run, or any sort of pattern that repeats itself more than three times? It's rare that I will miss a run of more than 3.
how brain dead does a person have to be to actually believe you can get an edge at a negative expectancy house game this way?l
something like 70% of craps players press their bets up when they believe a run is coming
does anybody believe they're long term winners?
only a fool would believe beating a casino is so easy
This is basically where I stand as well. The only thing I may add is that instead of “this way”, I would say “any way”. While any game can be beaten in the short term due to variance…I really don’t believe any negative expectation game can be a long term winner. Obviously counting cards in blackjack is a different animal…but the casinos have made card counting very difficult.
So, no…I never believed the story from the get go.
I’ve met rich people who gamble large amounts. I’ve never met a rich gambler who got rich gambling.
Quote: DRichI would not be surprised if Vegas has rolling blackouts this week. It is supposed to be 117 a couple of times this week.
I embrace this heat. I’m out on the patio right now. 10:45….93 degrees, and I’m very comfortable. It’s soothing in the evening. Obviously 115 is hot…but I’ll take summer Vegas temps over winter Vegas temps 10 out of 10. Then again, I don’t work outdoors.
believe what you want 😊. It's best you do coz knowing others can make ****loads easily, would probably be hard for many to swallowQuote: TDVegasQuote: lilredroosterQuote: MDawgSome people (not successful Baccarat players) ask...how do you press into a run, or get on a run to begin with? How do you know it will keep up? I'd say, how do you not get on a run, whether it be a chop, run, or any sort of pattern that repeats itself more than three times? It's rare that I will miss a run of more than 3.
how brain dead does a person have to be to actually believe you can get an edge at a negative expectancy house game this way?l
something like 70% of craps players press their bets up when they believe a run is coming
does anybody believe they're long term winners?
only a fool would believe beating a casino is so easy
This is basically where I stand as well. The only thing I may add is that instead of “this way”, I would say “any way”. While any game can be beaten in the short term due to variance…I really don’t believe any negative expectation game can be a long term winner. Obviously counting cards in blackjack is a different animal…but the casinos have made card counting very difficult.
So, no…I never believed the story from the get go.
I’ve met rich people who gamble large amounts. I’ve never met a rich gambler who got rich gambling.
why back stab MD when he's not around? isn't this importing drama?Quote: lilredroosterMDawg is again making horrible medical recommendations
from N.I.H. - one of the most highly respected medical organizations in the world:
Note...................... Nicacin is the generic name for nicotonic acid, nicotinamide and related derivatives
" high intakes of both nicotinic acid and nicotinamide taken as a dietary supplement or medication can cause adverse effects,
Thirty to 50 mg nicotinic acid or more typically causes flushing; the skin on the patient’s face, arms, and chest turns a reddish color because of vasodilation of small subcutaneous blood vessels. The flushing is accompanied by burning, tingling, and itching sensations [2,12,35]. These signs and symptoms are typically transient and can occur within 30 minutes of intake or over days or weeks with repeated dosing; they are considered an unpleasant, rather than a toxic, side effect. However, the flushing can be accompanied by more serious signs and symptoms, such as headache, rash, dizziness, and/or a decrease in blood pressure.
When taken in pharmacologic doses of 1,000 to 3,000 mg/day, nicotinic acid can also cause more serious adverse effects [2,4,12,35]. Many of these effects have occurred in patients taking high-dose nicotinic acid supplements to treat hyperlipidemias. These adverse effects can include hypotension severe enough to increase the risk of falls; fatigue; impaired glucose tolerance and insulin resistance; gastrointestinal effects, such as nausea, heartburn, and abdominal pain; and ocular effects, such as blurred or impaired vision and macular edema (a buildup of fluid at the center of the retina). High doses of nicotinic acid taken over months or years can also be hepatotoxic; effects can include increased levels of liver enzymes; hepatic dysfunction resulting in fatigue, nausea, and anorexia; hepatitis; and acute liver failure [2,12,28,36]. Hepatotoxicity is more likely to occur with the use of extended-release forms of nicotinic acid [12,37,38]."
https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Niacin-HealthProfessional/
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Quote: Wellbushbelieve what you want 😊. It's best you do coz knowing others can make ****loads easily, would probably be hard for many to swallowQuote: TDVegasQuote: lilredroosterQuote: MDawgSome people (not successful Baccarat players) ask...how do you press into a run, or get on a run to begin with? How do you know it will keep up? I'd say, how do you not get on a run, whether it be a chop, run, or any sort of pattern that repeats itself more than three times? It's rare that I will miss a run of more than 3.
how brain dead does a person have to be to actually believe you can get an edge at a negative expectancy house game this way?l
something like 70% of craps players press their bets up when they believe a run is coming
does anybody believe they're long term winners?
only a fool would believe beating a casino is so easy
This is basically where I stand as well. The only thing I may add is that instead of “this way”, I would say “any way”. While any game can be beaten in the short term due to variance…I really don’t believe any negative expectation game can be a long term winner. Obviously counting cards in blackjack is a different animal…but the casinos have made card counting very difficult.
So, no…I never believed the story from the get go.
I’ve met rich people who gamble large amounts. I’ve never met a rich gambler who got rich gambling.
I know of many that make boatloads of money. Just not in the casino, playing a negative expectation game long term. You believe what you want. Living vicariously thru a fantasy isn’t necessarily a bad thing. No harm. Just don’t hit the ATM too much trying to disprove a gambler fallacy.
Quote: TDVegasI embrace this heat. I’m out on the patio right now. 10:45….93 degrees, and I’m very comfortable. It’s soothing in the evening. Obviously 115 is hot…but I’ll take summer Vegas temps over winter Vegas temps 10 out of 10. Then again, I don’t work outdoors.
I am with you. The heat doesn't bother me unless I am in the sun. If I am sitting on my porch and it is 100 degrees I am fine. Vegas winters suck. I would not have moved to Vegas if I knew how cold it gets.
Quote: DRichI am with you. The heat doesn't bother me unless I am in the sun. If I am sitting on my porch and it is 100 degrees I am fine. Vegas winters suck. I would not have moved to Vegas if I knew how cold it gets.
Yep. 100 degrees in the evening is perfectly fine for me. The sun and heat combined can be a oppressive during the day….but in the shade or darkness, this heat doesn’t bother me. I like it. Truth be told, I would take summer all year round. I hate the cold. Hate Vegas winters. If it wasn’t for the humidity, south Florida would be my next choice.
There are times where I’m in the casino or a bar in the summer…and they must have the thermostat set to 65. Freezing for me.
Quote: TDVegasIf it wasn’t for the humidity, south Florida would be my next choice.
Florida is my next choice. Hopefully soon.
You can use the word, but not applying it to a member, even implicitly. Not until they self identify as one.Quote:If someone wants to be MDawgs sycophant (can I say that?)….que sera, sera.
If in doubt... Don't.
These lines, they can get awfully blurry.
Blurry indeed. That's why we members and moderators struggle with rules.Quote: MrVSo it's okay to describe a member as an "enamored booster of and firm believer in joe blow" but not as "a sycophan" or "a toady" of joe blow?"
These lines, they can get awfully blurry.
(I thought the spelling was 'sycophant'? Odd, it's a word that keeps popping up when I'm looking at synonyms.)
Some online dictionaries mark words as pejorative and that partially guides me in determining if some post is an insult. That plus my own feeling if such a description were applied to me. "enamored booster of and firm believer in joe blow" strikes me as acceptable. "sycophant" or "toady" strike me as unacceptable.
E.g Take the innocuous word 'Fan'
Quote: Merriam-Webster
But then look at the synonyms for 'Fan' and we have...
Quote: Merriam-Webster
"Synonyms: Noun (2)
addict, aficionado (also afficionado), buff, bug, devotee, enthusiast, fanatic, fancier, fiend, fool, freak, habitué (also habitue), head, hound, junkie (also junky), lover, maniac, maven (also mavin), nut, sucker"
To call a certain member a 'fan' or 'devotee' is surely OK. but 'fool', 'freak', 'maniac', 'nut', or 'sucker' would surely be insults.
Should a member self describe as a 'Fan' he might expect us to interpret that word. He invites us to form an opinion of his character. We might think of certain synonyms, but we think twice before posting them.... Or we might fall into a trap and end up suspended.
If in doubt let's not describe or debate or attack the poster. Let's focus on the posts.
Quote: OnceDear
If in doubt let's not describe or debate or attack the poster. Let's focus on the posts.
Beautiful :)
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Quote: darkozMarcus,
Are you claiming Wizard has verified that MDawg wins without an advantage using just intuition and luck and some type of progessive betting system?
I'm bumping this for Marcus who conveniently missed the question
Quote: OnceDearYes. I reckon that's it. Darkoz and others have done you the favour of helping you keep in touch with your hero.
We are not bringing drama here from another forum. We are just pointing out that other forums are available, with similar content.
As to trolling MC..... Expressing an interest in the content in his sig line is surely on-topic.
MC has asked me questions, so I'll ask, out of curiosity...
MarcusClark66, Why do you SEEM to be so dedicated to just this one forum, when it's common knowledge that your hero is actively posting on at least two other forums. Is it maybe that you enjoy something specific about this forum. Maybe you'll tell us what it is that you like here and we'll see if we can deliver more of it for the enjoyment of all of us.
Bumping this post as well for Marcus who I predicted would e crickets on his answer.
Come on Marcus. You are pretty vocal in your replies.
Don't act like you can't answer this
EDIT: I believe Marcus replied he just wants to be here but that's an evasive non-answer.
The question is why doesn't he follow his hero elsewhere as well. I.E. Why does a number one fan only follow his hero on this forum when his hero isn't even allowed to currently post but is posting elsewhere.
Quote: darkozBumping this post as well for Marcus who I predicted would e crickets on his answer.
Come on Marcus. You are pretty vocal in your replies.
Don't act like you can't answer this
EDIT: I believe Marcus replied he just wants to be here but that's an evasive non-answer.
The question is why doesn't he follow his hero elsewhere as well. I.E. Why does a number one fan only follow his hero on this forum when his hero isn't even allowed to currently post but is posting elsewhere.
There are four verifications I found, I'm going to post them here if I can copy and paste them and this is what I'm going on that the Wiz has verified:
1) https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/95/#post803695
2) https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/500/#post804724
3) https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/505/#post805179
4) https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/542/#post807388
Coming from Mr. Wizard The Man himself, when he says stuff like "let the record show" and "I have seen" and all the rest of it, that's good enough for me and it should be good enough for you guys. And most of all when he says stuff like, "I attest that Mdawg's report is accurate".
With Love! Gotcha :)
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Ok…. Now to the point of this generally regurgitated repeat post…
Last night I went to dinner with 4 forum members and some spouses. Axel, PG, and two others who don’t post anymore. The four of them all make a living at AP. And the two others who I won’t mention by name basically don’t post at all anymore. They were valuable members. They mentioned a few others that are also gone because of the low quality posts from the OP and his ‘fans’.
I stay because I find MDawg’s stories interesting and well written (mostly). I know how to challenge the ridiculous claims within the rules of the forum. Others, like Kewlj and terapined cross the line. Dozens of others have just left the forum instead.
The moderators and Wiz himself in someway feel that relegating this thread to the ‘systems section’ makes the thread ‘less important’ or ‘not condoned’ by management. Frankly, if I’m a new guy searching, I’d get the exact opposite impression.. it is the most busy thread.
I’m up $9.75 at a combination of Pai Gow tiles and Face Up Pai Gow.
1)Particpate in the Adventures of MDawg thread, love it or hate it.
2)Don't participate in the forum at all.
As of late, there's not really much here.
-EV, do u understand it? have u heard of Wellbush's Paradox? I'm getting less and less worried about losing any money, and getting more and more confident about making money at casinos! it doesn't bother me in the slightest what people think, when they can't disprove Wellbush's Paradox in a simple way.Quote: TDVegasI know of many that make boatloads of money. Just not in the casino, playing a negative expectation game long term. You believe what you want. Living vicariously thru a fantasy isn’t necessarily a bad thing. No harm. Just don’t hit the ATM too much trying to disprove a gambler fallacy.
i'm not following MD in the way you describe it. i follow his thread, though. i am getting more and more certain gamblers can win with a progressive strategy, as long as they don't follow the progression into excessive bet sizes.Quote: TDVegasQuote: MrVSome say it is dangerous.
see: article
If someone wants to be MDawgs sycophant (can I say that?)….que sera, sera.
Quote: Wellbush-EV, do u understand it? have u heard of Wellbush's Paradox? I'm getting less and less worried about losing any money, and getting more and more confident about making money at casinos! it doesn't bother me in the slightest what people think, when they can't disprove Wellbush's Paradox in a simple way.
I’ll bite. Can you tell me what is Wellbush’s Paradox in a simple way?
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Either you haven't been keeping up with this thread, or I q your ability to understand basic logic.Quote: unJonI’ll bite. Can you tell me what is Wellbush’s Paradox in a simple way?
Quote: SOOPOOI enjoy MDawgs tales. But…. I of course don’t believe them all. The ‘predictable’ and ‘easy’ and ‘continuous’ ways to beat the house edge are just not rational. As I’ve mentioned ad nauseum before, no one would doubt someone if they mentioned a single winning session at baccarat, or a few…. But the overall body of claims strains credulity. I’ve posted his SPECIFIC tie claims which approached the silliness of the 18 yos in a row claims.
Ok…. Now to the point of this generally regurgitated repeat post…
Last night I went to dinner with 4 forum members and some spouses. Axel, PG, and two others who don’t post anymore. The four of them all make a living at AP. And the two others who I won’t mention by name basically don’t post at all anymore. They were valuable members. They mentioned a few others that are also gone because of the low quality posts from the OP and his ‘fans’.
I stay because I find MDawg’s stories interesting and well written (mostly). I know how to challenge the ridiculous claims within the rules of the forum. Others, like Kewlj and terapined cross the line. Dozens of others have just left the forum instead.
The moderators and Wiz himself in someway feel that relegating this thread to the ‘systems section’ makes the thread ‘less important’ or ‘not condoned’ by management. Frankly, if I’m a new guy searching, I’d get the exact opposite impression.. it is the most busy thread.
I’m up $9.75 at a combination of Pai Gow tiles and Face Up Pai Gow.
It's the flagship thread. It's the face of the forum and has been for a year.
The only Ockham's Razor explanation is that it's because it's what the owners and administrator want as the face of the forum. It's not like the "Rules of the Forum" exist apart from the wishes of the owners and administrators.
That's what makes me chuckle. The rules get quoted (sorry, Oncedear, but you're part of this) as if they're laws of nature handed down from The Eternals. That's a convenient and false copout. The rules are whatever the owners and administrators want them to be.
Just skip all the debate and rename the place "The Dawg Pound."
That would actually be a great name for a site devoted to debunking MDawg and MarcusClark and Wellbush. I bet I could find some folks who might be interested in providing content.
Quote: redietzIt's the flagship thread. It's the face of the forum and has been for a year.
The only Ockham's Razor explanation is that it's because it's what the owners and administrator want as the face of the forum. It's not like the "Rules of the Forum" exist apart from the wishes of the owners and administrators.
That's what makes me chuckle. The rules get quoted (sorry, Oncedear, but you're part of this) as if they're laws of nature handed down from The Eternals. That's a convenient and false copout. The rules are whatever the owners and administrators want them to be.
Just skip all the debate and rename the place "The Dawg Pound."
That would actually be a great name for a site devoted to debunking MDawg and MarcusClark and Wellbush. I bet I could find some folks who might be interested in providing content.
If I believe The Wizard himself I'm wrong, if I believe MDawg I'm wrong, but if I believe a bunch of people that desire and strive to remain anonymous and they are very skeptical of everybody and they do not post any better than the next person how they make money then I would be correct. I see!
Kind of like siding with an unknown person from an unknown country that enters the United States without the proper paperwork and no one actually knows what he's doing but I endorse him and shake his hand and welcome them and then I'm correct. I see!
I think I'm starting to understand the overall aspect of the forum according to the members that attempt to run it.
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Quote: Marcusclark66So in other words if I believe The Wizard and his verification and eyes on reports then I'm wrong? So I'm not allowed to say it or believe The Wizard the leader of the board??
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No, not if you are misinterpreting what he said he saw.
If I say all sharks are fish that doesn't mean you can claim I said all fish are sharks
Quote: Wellbushi'm not following MD in the way you describe it
LOL…you literally have him listed as your “honorary and official #1 fan.
If that’s not Annie Wilkes, then I’m not sure what qualifies.
i think you may be confusing me with Marcusclark66?Quote: TDVegasLOL…you literally have him listed as your “honorary and official #1 fan.
If that’s not Annie Wilkes, then I’m not sure what qualifies.
They showed that at that moment in time he had some cash in his possession, a check or two, and a watch.
Big deal.
OK, so he's got access to money.
But the ultimate question, the relevant question, remains unresolved and will likely remain so if he continues to tap dance upon his much dreaded return: namely, HOW EXACTLY does he play the game, i.e.what EXACTLY does he do that lets him win as much as he claims?
If this question remains unanswered then the rest of it is just so much sewage.
I don't know.
What makes him so good?
Quote: darkoznot if you are misinterpreting what he said he saw.
He posted links to direct quotes.
What misinterpretation did he make?
Quote: Wellbushi think you may be confusing me with Marcusclark66?
That’s correct. My error. Apologies.
What good is it for them to feed him tens of thousands in comps?…when he beats them every year.
It seems to have gone on long enough for someone to say …hmmmm.
Quote: WellbushEither you haven't been keeping up with this thread, or I q your ability to understand basic logic.
I skip your posts for the most part.
Quote: coachbellyHe posted links to direct quotes.
What misinterpretation did he make?
Thank you. It would be the same as someone said they saw a blue car. And then I said yeah I saw the same car, that was a nice color dark blue. And then they argue about it was a light blue and it wasn't a dark blue. Then they claim I misquoted or misinterpreted him. Same same.
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Quote: coachbellyHe posted links to direct quotes.
What misinterpretation did he make?
What interpretation did he make?
Quote: darkozMarcus,
Are you claiming Wizard has verified that MDawg wins without an advantage using just intuition and luck and some type of progessive betting system?
I'm bumping this for Marcus for the last time and will send him a PM with the Link since he seems unable to even address this.
This is the simplest yes or no question
I already know the answer is a resounding no.
If Coachbelly or Marcus or even Wellbush believe the answer to the above is a yes, then please say so.
EDIT: Marcus has been PM'd with a link to this direct post