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It will work until it does not workQuote:ThekidI am trying to figure out if my strategy will work. It is pretty much a reverse martingale system.

and you run out of bankroll.

This has already been tried at least over 1 million times before and not 1 Baccarat syndicate uses that system to win today.

Why do you think you are different??

too bad you couldn’t take into consideration...Quote:ThekidThe one thing I couldn’t take into consideration was when banker won with a 3 card 7 which would equal a push in EZ baccarat not a win.

that sounds to me like a loser system talking

try something more unique and interesting

Back to the drawing board.

added: because...

I took the Wizard's 1,000 8 deck shoe collection (shows the cards) and placed it into Excel (after removing the Ties)

and got this

Player hit 37,356 for a loss of $933,900

580 times the Banker won 6 in a row - left streak the same when the Dragon 7 hit

(then started over at $25 on Banker) for a net gain each time of $1,550

for a total net gain of $899,000

no winner, no chicken dinner

correction timeQuote:7crapsI took the Wizard's 1,000 8 deck shoe collection (shows the cards) and placed it into Excel (after removing the Ties)

and got this

Player hit 37,356 for a loss of $933,900

580 times the Banker won 6 in a row - left streak the same when the Dragon 7 hit

(then started over at $25 on Banker) for a net gain each time of $1,550

for a total net gain of $899,000

no winner, no chicken dinner

for a net gain each time of $1,550 should be

for a net gain each time of $1,575

Player hit 37,356 for a loss of $933,900

580 times the Banker won 6 in a row - left streak the same when the Dragon 7 hit

(then started over at $25 on Banker) for a net gain each time of $1,575

for a total net gain of $913,500 on Banker win streak 6

net - $20,400

Now, I ran 10,000 shoes in my program that shows the cards and the Dragon 7

Player hit 363,611 for a loss of $9,090,275

5328 times the Banker won 6 in a row for a net gain each time of $1,575

for a total net gain of $8,391,600 on Banker win streak 6

net - $698,675

gets worse as expected

next

Brings up the questionQuote:ThekidI am trying to figure out if my strategy will work. It is pretty much a reverse martingale system. Bet banker every hand in EZ baccarat and double it up until you win 6 times in a row.

How often (expectation) does the Banker win 6 in a row (per shoe) at EZ Baccarat? (Dragon 7 does NOT break the Banker win streak)

So why would martingaling in this situation NOT work? Just asking you math guys. The game I was playing at the casino here has been removed since then so it's not available any longer but wondered.

Quote:MJGolfI hate to reawaken an older thread, but I also tried this similarly (but just martingaling the banker bet) and going back to original bet when it won. I didn't do this very many times but just for fun and it was a positive win experience. Not anything to be close to the many shoes you guys ran with Wizards compositions but my question was why it' wouldn't work IF my understanding is banker wins more often than player. And the only bad result is a tie when the banker hits the requisite 3 card 7 hand that is a push. I sure don't even remember a time that I had to go to a 6x banker bet like mentioned.

So why would martingaling in this situation NOT work? Just asking you math guys. The game I was playing at the casino here has been removed since then so it's not available any longer but wondered.

A quick looksee revealed the caveat. That 3 card 7 push means that for all non-tie games, the Player wins more often than banker

https://wizardofodds.com/games/ez-baccarat/

Banker Bet

EVENT | PAYS | PROBABILITY | RETURN |
---|---|---|---|

Banker win (except on 3-card 7) | 1 | 0.436064 | 0.436064 |

Tie Where Banker win on 3-card 7 | 0 | 0.022534 | 0.000000 |

Other Tie | 0 | 0.095156 | 0.000000 |

Player wins | -1 | 0.446247 | -0.446247 |

Total | 0 | 1.000000 | -0.010183 |

Banker Bet, Eliminating Ties

EVENT | PAYS | PROBABILITY | RETURN |
---|---|---|---|

Banker win (except on 3-card 7) | 1 | 0.494229 | 0.494229 |

Banker loses | -1 | 0.50577 | -0.50577 |

Total | 0 | 1.000000 | -0.011542 |

Which begs the question, why doesn't betting Player give an advantage?

Well, if you bet Player and Banker wins with a 3 card 7, that is not considered a tie for you: It's considered a lose.

As to probability of 6 consecutive losses, betting banker... 1/(0.50577)^6 = 1 in 59.74. You wouldn't need to play long to encounter that.

E&OE