zeldastrike321
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April 10th, 2018 at 11:32:13 PM permalink
When the shoe starts, the first hand comes out banker or player, whatever it is I bet on the winning side for the second hand and continue, hoping for streaks to happen. I continue betting the same amount (1 unit or minimum bet) until I lose and then I switch to the opposite winning side. To recuperate my losses, I double my bet martingale, until I win again, which would require a winning streak of at least two in a row. The key point is that it is based on that I cannot go 7 times without winning. On the seventh bet, I must win or I bust. Now I've observed many shoes and I've never seen it alternating between banker and player more than 6 times, although if it does it is a huge loss, but it is a win a mass majority of the time. Basically, it is a profit of usually more than 30 units per shoe. Is this a good betting strategy because so far I haven't placed any bets but just have been observing shoes online and at real live casinos?
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April 10th, 2018 at 11:50:33 PM permalink
Welcome to the forum Zelda.
No it isnít. Play baccarat for fun, no system can beat the game.
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zeldastrike321
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April 11th, 2018 at 12:19:11 AM permalink
you haven't explained why it isn't because although it cannot beat the game, because the 7th loss is possible to happen, it is unlikely from the shoes I've observed, how often do you see in any given shoe BPBPBPB? I mostly see BBBBPBPPPPPPBPBBBBB etc? why bet against a streak?
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April 11th, 2018 at 12:57:04 AM permalink
House edge. There I explained it. Every bet you make carries a house edge. No matter how you you bet or in what order or system you canít get rid of the house edge.
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April 11th, 2018 at 2:09:44 AM permalink
Quote: zeldastrike321

you haven't explained why it isn't because although it cannot beat the game, because the 7th loss is possible to happen, it is unlikely from the shoes I've observed, how often do you see in any given shoe BPBPBPB? I mostly see BBBBPBPPPPPPBPBBBBB etc? why bet against a streak?


Welcome new user.

I'll keep this short, and I'll shout!. STREAKS MEAN NOTHING
Whatever set of x hands you just saw DOES NOT PREDICT THE NEXT HAND
If you martingale, you will PROBABLY WIN A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY!
If you don't win, you will CERTAINLY LOSE A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY
If you want to use Martingale to win a significant amount of money you will have to repeat the MARTY A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF TIMES
If you repeat the Marty, your chance of that ONE MASSIVE LOSS IS NOT AT ALL UNLIKELY
EVERY BET YOU PUT ON THE TABLE IS SUBJECT TO THE HOUSE EDGE. THE MORE YOU PUT DOWN - THE MORE YOU LOSE

All you are doing with a Marty style of wagering is constructing a wager where you probably win peanuts {granted] but put your massive bankroll at risk repeatedly.

MARTINGALE IS JUST A FUN WAY TO LOSE MONEY
If you try to ask, in umpteen different ways, why your system is flawed, you will possibly meet hostility here. Don't take it personally. No-one here sees any financial value to Martingale. It doesn't matter whether you bet with streaks, against streaks, baccarat, roulette, blackjack. We all KNOW how dumb Martingale is, and some of us get sick of rewriting the same explanation time after time. It was nonsense 300 years ago, it always has been and always will be.
Last edited by: OnceDear on Apr 11, 2018
Beware. The earth is NOT flat. Hit and run is not a winning strategy: Pressing into trends IS not a winning strategy: Progressives are not a winning strategy: Don't Buy It! .Don't even take it for free.
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April 11th, 2018 at 2:41:37 AM permalink
As I came across elsewhere, the only time that Martingale is a good, serious option is when you need a fairly small amount, and losing it all doesn't make things much worse than not achieving your goal. And the example given was trying to afford getting smuggled out of a war zone.
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April 11th, 2018 at 2:44:57 AM permalink
Quote: Venthus

As I came across elsewhere, the only time that Martingale is a good, serious option is when you need a fairly small amount, and losing it all doesn't make things much worse than not achieving your goal. And the example given was trying to afford getting smuggled out of a war zone.


Hahaha that got weird real quick. You win the internet for today 🤣
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April 11th, 2018 at 2:52:14 AM permalink
My favorite betting strategy is a half-dollar coin
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April 11th, 2018 at 8:49:11 AM permalink
Quote: zeldastrike321

Is this a good betting strategy because so far I haven't placed any bets but just have been observing shoes online and at real live casinos?

I say it is good where good equals having fun
Quote: zeldastrike321

because the 7th loss is possible to happen, it is unlikely from the shoes I've observed, how often do you see in any given shoe BPBPBPB?

for some reason I looked at 1 million 8 deck shoes and have this type of info.
for BPBPBPB
 times   freq  freq/100
--------------------------------------------
0 656214 65.62%
1 286073 28.61%
2 52240 5.22%
3 5168 0.52%
4 299 0.03%
5 6 0.00%
so about 1/3 of the shoes had that pattern at least 1 time

for PBPBPBP (1 million shoes)
looks to be about the same percentage wise that is
occurrences [PBPBPBP                  freq  
0 668581
1 277377
2 49281
3 4526
4 235

have fun with Marty streakin'

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zeldastrike321
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April 11th, 2018 at 9:37:27 AM permalink
what software are you using is it accessible for me to use?

for some reason I looked at 1 million 8 deck shoes and have this type of info.
for BPBPBPB
times freq freq/100
--------------------------------------------
0 656214 65.62%
1 286073 28.61%
2 52240 5.22%
3 5168 0.52%
4 299 0.03%
5 6 0.00%
so about 1/3 of the shoes had that pattern at least 1 time

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