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Romes
Romes
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March 1st, 2018 at 12:40:20 PM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

Yes , it is all relative... so why would you rather lay odds on 6,8 vs 4,10 (eg..$60 to win $50 instead of $60 to win $30) when the probabilities of them winning all correlate respectively to their payout odds. You would imply that you can make more money by laying 6 and 8 vs laying 4 and 10 and a risk/reward basis ? Flawed.

If I play craps (very rare) I take the same odds ($60) on ALL of my DP/DC's. I wasn't meaning to imply I don't bet all of them exactly the same...
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
mustangsally
mustangsally
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March 1st, 2018 at 1:55:08 PM permalink
Quote: GamecoxJax

Generally,

but
you can be more specific
Quote: GamecoxJax

if I lose 4 Don't numbers (Don't Pass or Don't Come), I will stop adding more money to the table until the next shooter.

is that 4 don'ts with odds
or
any don't bet loss?
roll sequence like 11,7,7,7
and you are done with that shooter??

The craps shooter record is said to be 154 rolls by Grandma Pat

Are you telling me that after her 12th roll or so, you would stop making any bets on her??
I think you would change to be a right way player for sure, right?

She went out on the 154th roll is what is told
you would look foolish just standing there and not betting unless you just leave and read about her hand in the paper.
just saying...
Quote: GamecoxJax

I know, each dice throw is independent............. No such thing as hot shooter......

yes, shooters are what they are.

only the numbers rolled are HOT!

place that with patience, money management and bet selection
and you will take all $$$ the casino has, for sure

some say
"winners stay and play at craps on either side and losers hit and run"

Sally
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lilredrooster
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March 1st, 2018 at 4:46:34 PM permalink
Quote: mustangsally




the numbers rolled are HOT!

place that with patience, money management and bet selection
and you will take all $$$ the casino has, for sure"winners stay and play at craps on either side Sally



Sally, mathematicians have known and stated for about 300 years that a house game with a built in house edge cannot be overcome by the player in the long run by any means (not including a physical bias such as a defective roulette wheel.)

If you have a way to prove them wrong you will surely be a candidate for the Fields Medal and the Abel Prize in Mathematics.

You should begin preparing your acceptance speech.

I'm hoping that in your speech you will be gracious and mention all of your friends at WOV who have in some way contributed to your sensational accomplishment.

"The Fields Medal is, with the Abel Prize, viewed as the highest honour a mathematician can receive. The Fields Medal and the Abel Prize have often been described as the mathematician's "Nobel Prize"."
𝘱𝘢𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘰𝘵: 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘰𝘯 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘳 𝘭𝘰𝘶𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘵 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘩𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵............. ᴍᴀʀᴋ ᴛᴡᴀɪɴ
Laymedown
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March 27th, 2018 at 8:47:58 PM permalink
Quote: GamecoxJax


I know, each dice throw is independent............. No such thing as hot shooter......



Why do you say that?
I visit a local casino 3 times per week and every visit I see many of the same faces.
I see these guys roll numbers after numbers every visit.
Yes I also see them PSO (Point Seven Out) but all in all, they roll lots of numbers.
I think they are most responsible for keeping those tables pumping all day long.

I can accept the fact that as mentioned in the other forum threads that DI shooters should be millionaires and most of them aren't.
Face it if a DI shooter can roll a specific number he would be betting max bet on it every roll
I can also accept the fact that there are none in existence that I know of but hot shooters are those that are not DI's they are merely shooters that know how to avoid a seven consistently and they exist.

There are many in my city and we all make money from them.

Do keep in mind that 99% of any betting system will work out as long as the numbers keep coming in and the sevens get avoided.

The system described in this thread will also work with out changing anything from it. But do keep in mind that there is only ONE MAIN SYSTEM in the game of craps and that is...
Sorry for my many daily posts. I am a retired professional and I love to chat about gambling. I also enjoy reading and can't help but to reply to some fantastic articles.
michael99000
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March 28th, 2018 at 12:21:59 AM permalink
Quote: BlackjackGuy123

Why not just count cards?



Exactly !

The best in the world make almost $2000/year

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