AxelWolf
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February 22nd, 2018 at 1:18:25 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

If it includes rebates and promos then both i and several people on here have probably won the challenge already

For 10% betting on both sides?

I have no doubt The Wizzard knows damn well a loss rebate can have a positive EV.
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February 22nd, 2018 at 1:21:07 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

For 10% betting on both sides?

I have no doubt The Wizzard knows damn well a loss rebate can have a positive EV.



I have no doubt also

But his comment was curious

Perhaps he didnt read the post with the actual description of the system
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AxelWolf
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February 22nd, 2018 at 3:07:23 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz



But his comment was curious

I agree, I would be surprised if he didn't read the post carefully, especially when it comes to his challenge/offer involving lots of money.

Perhaps it has something to do the number of units the OP is claiming?
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darkoz
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February 22nd, 2018 at 3:16:47 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I agree, I would be surprised if he didn't read the post carefully, especially when it comes to his challenge/offer involving lots of money.

Perhaps it has something to do the number of units the OP is claiming?



The more i think about it the more i suspect he didnt see the second post the challenger made

If u post an answer your response can leap you forward in the thread. Its something that annoys me to no end as i suddenly realize i missed two pages
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March 27th, 2018 at 11:34:46 PM permalink
This similar thing was done on digital craps where high rollers would cash in on the points. 1 point for every $20.00 bet, 100 Points = 10.00 cash If you max bet 1000.00 on both sides of the game so each betting side would pay a $10.00 cash bonus on the players card every two rolls.

The key thing is to win 40 rolls in a row while avoiding the twelve (Not necessarily betting one roll after the other)

You can not bet both sides of the PL/DP or C/DC on the same machine any more but two people can play this on those new bubble craps machines.

The dice setters use specific rolls at the tables to avoid a couple sevens from being made in the their throw. Maybe if they use a dice set to avoid rolling the TWELVE CRAP, this can be so do'able.

Question? Is it easier to roll a TWELVE using 2 DICE or is it easier to roll ANY TRIPLE on 3 DICE? Or what are the odds of being able to clock a wheel at a SINGLE 0 ROULETTE machine playing RED or BLACK?

What about betting with MATCH PLAY COUPONS Betting both sides?

Now the million dollar question "How does the taxes work on winning in the USA? Here in Canada you win 100% you keep 100% no taxes.
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March 28th, 2018 at 5:30:37 AM permalink
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Are you saying the $10k challenge does allow for casino loss rebates to be part of the persons “system”?



No.
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March 28th, 2018 at 5:32:55 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I have no doubt The Wizzard knows damn well a loss rebate can have a positive EV.



Of course. My challenge can involve only negative EV bets.
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March 28th, 2018 at 8:22:39 AM permalink
Quote: michael99000

Are you saying the $10k challenge does allow for casino loss rebates to be part of the persons “system”?



None of the people who have offered up such challenges here would include a loss rebate. Quite the contrary, the Wiz and others have repeatedly shown that using a loss rebate can make many games that are inherently -EV into +EV opportunities. They even have given methods to bet which will maximize the +EV.
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March 28th, 2018 at 8:22:48 AM permalink
Quote: michael99000

Are you saying the $10k challenge does allow for casino loss rebates to be part of the persons “system”?



None of the people who have offered up such challenges here would include a loss rebate. Quite the contrary, the Wiz and others have repeatedly shown that using a loss rebate can make many games that are inherently -EV into +EV opportunities. They even have given methods to bet which will maximize the +EV.
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March 28th, 2018 at 8:23:09 AM permalink
Quote: michael99000

Are you saying the $10k challenge does allow for casino loss rebates to be part of the persons “system”?



None of the people who have offered up such challenges here would include a loss rebate. Quite the contrary, the Wiz and others have repeatedly shown that using a loss rebate can make many games that are inherently -EV into +EV opportunities. They even have given methods to bet which will maximize the +EV.

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