October 14th, 2017 at 12:25:52 PM
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the average number of unique numbers to come out in 36 spins is 25. that means if you randomly pick a number and bet on it till you win or a maximum of 36 times you will win 25 times out of 36. which means you will win 69.44 % of the time and loose 30.56% of the time or slightly over 2 wins to 1 loss your average return should be 50% of your stake for example 1 unit per spin upto a total of 36 units on average should return 18 units this should happen just over twice (2.78% more) and you should loose once so you loose say 36 units but win 18 units twice plus 2.78%. its just a theory obviously roulette is completely random but the law of big numbers (the more times you play) should bring you close to that result

October 14th, 2017 at 12:29:18 PM
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Your loosing sessions will wipe out the winning sessions.

October 14th, 2017 at 12:36:45 PM
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if you do it 10,000 times you should win 18 units 6,944 times +124,992 units and loose 36 units 3,056 times 110,016 units. so you should make 14,976 units

October 14th, 2017 at 1:11:46 PM
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Quote:chaosrevoltif you do it 10,000 times you should win 18 units 6,944 times +124,992 units and loose 36 units 3,056 times 110,016 units. so you should make 14,976 units

Hi Chaos,

I have a few minutes to spare, in which to do the maths to prove you mind-crushingly wrong, but before I commence, please define which version of roulette you are making this assertion for?

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October 14th, 2017 at 1:33:08 PM
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Quote:chaosrevoltthe average number of unique numbers to come out in 36 spins is 25. that means if you randomly pick a number and bet on it till you win or a maximum of 36 times you will win 25 times out of 36.

Er, no, it does not.

By my calculation, you will lose an average of about 1.234 units per "run."

The four columns are, the number of spins it takes to land on your number (or "Lose" if it does not land in 36 spins), the probability of this happening, the profit you make from this result, and the expected value (= profit x probability).

Spins | Prob | Profit | EV |
---|---|---|---|

1 | 0.026315789473684 | 35 | 0.921052631578947 |

2 | 0.025623268698061 | 34 | 0.871191135734072 |

3 | 0.024948972153375 | 33 | 0.823316081061379 |

4 | 0.024292420254602 | 32 | 0.777357448147267 |

5 | 0.023653146037376 | 31 | 0.733247527158648 |

6 | 0.023030694825866 | 30 | 0.690920844775975 |

7 | 0.022424623909396 | 29 | 0.650314093372475 |

8 | 0.02183450222757 | 28 | 0.611366062371946 |

9 | 0.021259910063686 | 27 | 0.574017571719524 |

10 | 0.020700438746221 | 26 | 0.538211407401737 |

11 | 0.020155690358162 | 25 | 0.503892258954055 |

12 | 0.019625277454 | 24 | 0.471006658896001 |

13 | 0.019108822784158 | 23 | 0.439502924035633 |

14 | 0.01860595902668 | 22 | 0.409331098586962 |

15 | 0.018116328525978 | 21 | 0.380442899045538 |

16 | 0.017639583038452 | 20 | 0.352791660769045 |

17 | 0.017175383484809 | 19 | 0.326332286211367 |

18 | 0.016723399708893 | 18 | 0.30102119476007 |

19 | 0.016283310242869 | 17 | 0.276816274128778 |

20 | 0.015854802078583 | 16 | 0.253676833257332 |

21 | 0.015437570444936 | 15 | 0.231563556674045 |

22 | 0.015031318591122 | 14 | 0.210438460275711 |

23 | 0.014635757575566 | 13 | 0.190264848482363 |

24 | 0.01425060606042 | 12 | 0.171007272725038 |

25 | 0.013875590111462 | 11 | 0.152631491226076 |

26 | 0.013510443003265 | 10 | 0.135104430032651 |

27 | 0.013154905029495 | 9 | 0.118394145265455 |

28 | 0.012808723318193 | 8 | 0.10246978654554 |

29 | 0.012471651651924 | 7 | 0.08730156156347 |

30 | 0.012143450292663 | 6 | 0.072860701755979 |

31 | 0.011823885811277 | 5 | 0.059119429056386 |

32 | 0.011512730921507 | 4 | 0.046050923686027 |

33 | 0.011209764318309 | 3 | 0.033629292954928 |

34 | 0.010914770520459 | 2 | 0.021829541040918 |

35 | 0.010627539717289 | 1 | 0.010627539717289 |

36 | 0.010347867619466 | 0 | 0 |

Lose | 0.382871101920227 | -36 | -13.7833596691282 |

Total | 1 | -1.23425779615956 |

October 14th, 2017 at 1:39:43 PM
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european

October 14th, 2017 at 1:41:25 PM
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If you number hits (once) then you break even. How's that winning?

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October 14th, 2017 at 2:25:42 PM
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ive been using /simulator/?mode=martingale&sess=MEDUD2GA

and refreshing after every win (you have to load another system simulator and then return to refresh) spins 36 progression factor 0 go home after 1 win if i lose i generate another number without refreshing (choosing numbers on googles random number generator) and i am +263 units. the most i have been down is 81 units.

and refreshing after every win (you have to load another system simulator and then return to refresh) spins 36 progression factor 0 go home after 1 win if i lose i generate another number without refreshing (choosing numbers on googles random number generator) and i am +263 units. the most i have been down is 81 units.

October 14th, 2017 at 2:44:52 PM
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Sounds like you have a mighty fine system then, I guess. Idk. Go use it at the casino then? Let us know how it works!

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October 14th, 2017 at 2:51:29 PM
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Hey everybody, I just realized something.

If you bet on the underdog in football and they win, you win

If you bet on the underdog and they cover, you win

If you bet on the underdog and they do not cover, you lose

Hence, if you bet on the underdog you will win 2/3 of the time and PROFIT

If you bet on the underdog in football and they win, you win

If you bet on the underdog and they cover, you win

If you bet on the underdog and they do not cover, you lose

Hence, if you bet on the underdog you will win 2/3 of the time and PROFIT