chaosrevolt
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October 14th, 2017 at 12:25:52 PM permalink
the average number of unique numbers to come out in 36 spins is 25. that means if you randomly pick a number and bet on it till you win or a maximum of 36 times you will win 25 times out of 36. which means you will win 69.44 % of the time and loose 30.56% of the time or slightly over 2 wins to 1 loss your average return should be 50% of your stake for example 1 unit per spin upto a total of 36 units on average should return 18 units this should happen just over twice (2.78% more) and you should loose once so you loose say 36 units but win 18 units twice plus 2.78%. its just a theory obviously roulette is completely random but the law of big numbers (the more times you play) should bring you close to that result
gamerfreak
Joined: Dec 28, 2014
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October 14th, 2017 at 12:29:18 PM permalink
Your loosing sessions will wipe out the winning sessions.
chaosrevolt
Joined: Jun 9, 2017
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October 14th, 2017 at 12:36:45 PM permalink
if you do it 10,000 times you should win 18 units 6,944 times +124,992 units and loose 36 units 3,056 times 110,016 units. so you should make 14,976 units
OnceDear
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October 14th, 2017 at 1:11:46 PM permalink
Quote: chaosrevolt

if you do it 10,000 times you should win 18 units 6,944 times +124,992 units and loose 36 units 3,056 times 110,016 units. so you should make 14,976 units

Hi Chaos,
I have a few minutes to spare, in which to do the maths to prove you mind-crushingly wrong, but before I commence, please define which version of roulette you are making this assertion for?
If you are enjoying the game, you're already winning.
ThatDonGuy
Joined: Jun 22, 2011
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October 14th, 2017 at 1:33:08 PM permalink
Quote: chaosrevolt

the average number of unique numbers to come out in 36 spins is 25. that means if you randomly pick a number and bet on it till you win or a maximum of 36 times you will win 25 times out of 36.

Er, no, it does not.

By my calculation, you will lose an average of about 1.234 units per "run."

The four columns are, the number of spins it takes to land on your number (or "Lose" if it does not land in 36 spins), the probability of this happening, the profit you make from this result, and the expected value (= profit x probability).
SpinsProbProfitEV
10.026315789473684350.921052631578947
20.025623268698061340.871191135734072
30.024948972153375330.823316081061379
40.024292420254602320.777357448147267
50.023653146037376310.733247527158648
60.023030694825866300.690920844775975
70.022424623909396290.650314093372475
80.02183450222757280.611366062371946
90.021259910063686270.574017571719524
100.020700438746221260.538211407401737
110.020155690358162250.503892258954055
120.019625277454240.471006658896001
130.019108822784158230.439502924035633
140.01860595902668220.409331098586962
150.018116328525978210.380442899045538
160.017639583038452200.352791660769045
170.017175383484809190.326332286211367
180.016723399708893180.30102119476007
190.016283310242869170.276816274128778
200.015854802078583160.253676833257332
210.015437570444936150.231563556674045
220.015031318591122140.210438460275711
230.014635757575566130.190264848482363
240.01425060606042120.171007272725038
250.013875590111462110.152631491226076
260.013510443003265100.135104430032651
270.01315490502949590.118394145265455
280.01280872331819380.10246978654554
290.01247165165192470.08730156156347
300.01214345029266360.072860701755979
310.01182388581127750.059119429056386
320.01151273092150740.046050923686027
330.01120976431830930.033629292954928
340.01091477052045920.021829541040918
350.01062753971728910.010627539717289
360.01034786761946600
Lose0.382871101920227-36-13.7833596691282
Total1 -1.23425779615956

chaosrevolt
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October 14th, 2017 at 1:39:43 PM permalink
european
RS
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October 14th, 2017 at 1:41:25 PM permalink
If you number hits (once) then you break even. How's that winning?
It's a piece of cake to bake a pretty cake. If the way is hazy. You gotta do the cookin' by the book. You know you can't be lazy. Never use a messy recipe. The cake will end up crazy. If you do the cookin' by the book. Then you'll have a... Break it down! Lemme see you bake it up! Drop that down low and pick that up. Break it down! Lemme see you bake it up! Drop that down low and pick that up Now back that Hey! Now back that. Hey! Now bake that. Hey! Now bake that. Hey! It's a piece of cake to bake a pretty cake (WHAT!) If the way is hazy (OKAY!) You gotta do the cookin' by the book, (WHAT!) You know you can't be lazy (YEAH!) Never use a messy recipe, (WHAT!) The cake will end up crazy (OKAY!) If you do the cookin' by the book, (YEEAAHHHH!) Then you'll have a...cake! Rub that, it's yours! Grab this, it's yours! Rub that, it's yours! Grab this, it's yours! Now turn around, put that on. Grind, make it get a little bigger! Now turn around, put that on. Grind, make it get a little bigger! You gotta do the cookin' by the book! HEY!
chaosrevolt
Joined: Jun 9, 2017
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October 14th, 2017 at 2:25:42 PM permalink
ive been using /simulator/?mode=martingale&sess=MEDUD2GA
and refreshing after every win (you have to load another system simulator and then return to refresh) spins 36 progression factor 0 go home after 1 win if i lose i generate another number without refreshing (choosing numbers on googles random number generator) and i am +263 units. the most i have been down is 81 units.
RS
Joined: Feb 11, 2014
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October 14th, 2017 at 2:44:52 PM permalink
Sounds like you have a mighty fine system then, I guess. Idk. Go use it at the casino then? Let us know how it works!
It's a piece of cake to bake a pretty cake. If the way is hazy. You gotta do the cookin' by the book. You know you can't be lazy. Never use a messy recipe. The cake will end up crazy. If you do the cookin' by the book. Then you'll have a... Break it down! Lemme see you bake it up! Drop that down low and pick that up. Break it down! Lemme see you bake it up! Drop that down low and pick that up Now back that Hey! Now back that. Hey! Now bake that. Hey! Now bake that. Hey! It's a piece of cake to bake a pretty cake (WHAT!) If the way is hazy (OKAY!) You gotta do the cookin' by the book, (WHAT!) You know you can't be lazy (YEAH!) Never use a messy recipe, (WHAT!) The cake will end up crazy (OKAY!) If you do the cookin' by the book, (YEEAAHHHH!) Then you'll have a...cake! Rub that, it's yours! Grab this, it's yours! Rub that, it's yours! Grab this, it's yours! Now turn around, put that on. Grind, make it get a little bigger! Now turn around, put that on. Grind, make it get a little bigger! You gotta do the cookin' by the book! HEY!
Johnzimbo
Joined: Sep 29, 2010