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bigpete88
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July 8th, 2012 at 8:55:32 PM permalink
Feel free to contact me with any advantage play in all of those systems that you have. I would like to read a few, or more. We can share data.

By the way, I am Irish too!! Drink and gamble. Not too much at the same time :-)
MaxRockatansky
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September 8th, 2012 at 5:35:45 PM permalink
Dear LuckoftheIrish & Everyone Else,

I'm interested in wanting to trade for some of your craps systems.
As for everyone else if you have any craps systems please send me
a list of what you have, i'm very interested in trading systems with
anyone. I have some craps systems people might like.

Thanks,
Max

I can be reached at maxrockatansky777 at g mail dot com
Wizard
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September 8th, 2012 at 5:42:42 PM permalink
I'll spare you the lecture on betting systems. However, let me give this piece of advice. Never put an unobfuscated Email address online. The spam bots will find it and before you know it you'll be inundated with ads for fake Viagara.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
MalcomD
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September 10th, 2012 at 9:40:29 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I'll spare you the lecture on betting systems. However, let me give this piece of advice. Never put an unobfuscated Email address online. The spam bots will find it and before you know it you'll be inundated with ads for fake Viagara.


I would like to hear the mathematical reason why betting systems are worthless. If you have time.
MathExtremist
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September 10th, 2012 at 10:27:14 AM permalink
Quote: MalcomD

I would like to hear the mathematical reason why betting systems are worthless. If you have time.


None can alter (either increase or decrease) the house edge. To most folks here, that's equivalent to "worthless". Lots of people find having a structured betting pattern a valuable aid to playing, so in that sense betting systems may not be worthless. But "betting system" to most people means a specific pattern of varying bets under the assumption of a constant house edge and independent events, and that sort of system cannot change anything about the long-term average results. (N.b. card counting in blackjack does not follow those assumptions: knowing the count means knowing how the house edge varies in a depleting deck or shoe.)
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MangoJ
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September 10th, 2012 at 10:50:28 AM permalink
Quote: MalcomD

I would like to hear the mathematical reason why betting systems are worthless.



If every bet you make is -EV, then no combination of bets will make it +EV.
AcesAndEights
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September 11th, 2012 at 12:43:11 AM permalink
Quote: MangoJ

If every bet you make is -EV, then no combination of bets will make it +EV.


-1 + -1 < 0
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Zcore13
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September 11th, 2012 at 1:47:08 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

The spam bots will find it and before you know it you'll be inundated with ads for fake Viagara.



Don't knock it till you try it Wiz... and the special lady in your life won't complain either. :)
I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director,, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
lefty359
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October 19th, 2012 at 3:51:35 PM permalink
I have a few systems that i'd trade but you might have most if not all.
I'd be interested in the Donny Millionaire systems you have, just to see what they are about.
Can I perhaps email you. I'm new here, so don't know the ins and outs yet.
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bigpete88
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October 19th, 2012 at 4:20:59 PM permalink
The (OP) original poster came and went. Start a new thread if you want and are reliable.

BOL...Best of Luck
biggins
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November 7th, 2012 at 4:59:03 PM permalink
Hey there.......I have formulated a betting system and modified basic strategy system for blackjack & craps. And for the record, it is not for sale.

However, administrator permitting, I would like to make a challenge to any player who can afford this:

I challenge any blackjack or craps player to play along with me with a 13k bankroll for 30 sessions. I am VERY confident we will win 1k per session minimum.

I would like to have the player post the results of each of the 30 sessions on this forum to prove me right or wrong. Each session will be under 2 hours. I will put up the entire 13K bankroll BUT give the player the opportunity to do the same at a 50/50 split of earnings.

The purpose of this challenge is to show the Adminisgrator/Wizard who feels ALL systems are worthless over time (key words 'over time'), that with this modest size bankroll, I can train anybody to win 1k/day consistently for a period of 30 consecutive sessions, while demonstrating exceptional bankroll management. I will show that with player managment ANYONE can win when instructed refined discipline, adequately funded, playing craps or blackjack.
biggins
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November 7th, 2012 at 5:10:26 PM permalink
Hey there Luck.....
You have quite a collection. I enjoy reading systems and created one of my own. Are these still for sale or trade?
1BB
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November 8th, 2012 at 12:57:55 AM permalink
Quote: biggins

Hey there Luck.....
You have quite a collection. I enjoy reading systems and created one of my own. Are these still for sale or trade?



Hey there...

Luck hasn't visited here in over two years but even he knew not to violate Forum Rule number 5. Within four minutes no less.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
AceTwo
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November 8th, 2012 at 5:06:14 AM permalink
Quote: biggins

Hey there.......I have formulated a betting system and modified basic strategy system for blackjack & craps. And for the record, it is not for sale.

However, administrator permitting, I would like to make a challenge to any player who can afford this:

I challenge any blackjack or craps player to play along with me with a 13k bankroll for 30 sessions. I am VERY confident we will win 1k per session minimum.

I would like to have the player post the results of each of the 30 sessions on this forum to prove me right or wrong. Each session will be under 2 hours. I will put up the entire 13K bankroll BUT give the player the opportunity to do the same at a 50/50 split of earnings.

The purpose of this challenge is to show the Adminisgrator/Wizard who feels ALL systems are worthless over time (key words 'over time'), that with this modest size bankroll, I can train anybody to win 1k/day consistently for a period of 30 consecutive sessions, while demonstrating exceptional bankroll management. I will show that with player managment ANYONE can win when instructed refined discipline, adequately funded, playing craps or blackjack.



This sounds like a good challenge. I do not live in the US so that I cannot take you up on this.
But, I would be willing to bet $1k with even odds against been succesfull on such challenge.
Your betting and stretegy system can be anything excluding counting.
The player will have bankroll 13k and play 30 sessions of maximum 2 hours and he will win at least 1k per session.
Actually, I will allow also counting or any other advantage technique to be used as well.
The person to play (or at least observe) must be a trustworthy person like the Wizzard.
Pando
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January 16th, 2013 at 12:53:48 PM permalink
This website has hundreds of them

http://www.laroulette.it/risorse/xtreme/sistemi
BlueAngel
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March 10th, 2013 at 10:03:32 PM permalink
We share the same hobby,I'm a collector of gambling systems and programmes,actually I have 130 systems and 7 programmes.I'm interested to trade with you and here is my proposition; exchange email addresses and send them all in parts,for examble I would send you 10 systems/email the same you would do.I'm sending one email then it's your turn and so on,like a chess game,one move each time.I'm interested more for certain systems than the rest,I could send you a list of my systems on your email address but the programmes are something more...I couldn't exchange any programmes for systems.Actually each program is an automated system itself.I'm a roulette system creator but I'm not interested to sell it for any price.My system is unique and nothing close to what you have seen and tried so far.Anyway,if you agree with my proposal,just let me know in order to process further.
Author of "BlueAngel system" and "RNG & ROULETTE WHEELS" available at Amazon and at www.theultimategamblingcollection.com
BlueAngel
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March 10th, 2013 at 10:17:54 PM permalink
Do you mean Don Young system? Because I have it
Author of "BlueAngel system" and "RNG & ROULETTE WHEELS" available at Amazon and at www.theultimategamblingcollection.com
fallun
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March 22nd, 2013 at 5:58:32 PM permalink
Spam removed, Member banned.

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March 22nd, 2013 at 6:18:18 PM permalink
So young and Mowed down in the prime of his existence. Now barely a memory. Let us pause half a nano second in his memory. RIP.

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sheree58
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October 28th, 2015 at 1:14:54 PM permalink
Are you still trading for systems?
standbymyman
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October 29th, 2015 at 9:47:19 AM permalink
No! He became filthy rich using all of those things and gave up gambling and collecting.
Kneegrows
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October 30th, 2015 at 10:55:29 AM permalink
Quote: biggins

Hey there.......I have formulated a betting system and modified basic strategy system for blackjack & craps. And for the record, it is not for sale.

However, administrator permitting, I would like to make a challenge to any player who can afford this:

I challenge any blackjack or craps player to play along with me with a 13k bankroll for 30 sessions. I am VERY confident we will win 1k per session minimum.

I would like to have the player post the results of each of the 30 sessions on this forum to prove me right or wrong. Each session will be under 2 hours. I will put up the entire 13K bankroll BUT give the player the opportunity to do the same at a 50/50 split of earnings.

The purpose of this challenge is to show the Adminisgrator/Wizard who feels ALL systems are worthless over time (key words 'over time'), that with this modest size bankroll, I can train anybody to win 1k/day consistently for a period of 30 consecutive sessions, while demonstrating exceptional bankroll management. I will show that with player managment ANYONE can win when instructed refined discipline, adequately funded, playing craps or blackjack.



I'll do it. I'm not going to put up any of the bankroll. I'll take the 50/50 split of the 30K winnings, obviously you keep the 13K starting bankroll. I'll be in Vegas next month for 3 weeks so let's just do half the sessions and split that. As someone who doesn't believe in systems, I will post daily results. If your system works, I will come on here and tell everyone that it does. And I will endorse you to take on the Wizard in his betting system challenge if it still exists. Unless this was just a lame attempt to get someone to give you half their winnings in exchange for hearing your nonsense cheerleader crap at a blackjack table.. I can get a homeless person to STOP doing that for $5.
Ibeatyouraces
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October 30th, 2015 at 11:04:52 AM permalink
Quote: Kneegrows

I'll do it. I'm not going to put up any of the bankroll. I'll take the 50/50 split of the 30K winnings, obviously you keep the 13K starting bankroll. I'll be in Vegas next month for 3 weeks so let's just do half the sessions and split that. As someone who doesn't believe in systems, I will post daily results. If your system works, I will come on here and tell everyone that it does. And I will endorse to take on the Wizard in his betting system challenge if it still exists. Unless this was just a lame attempt to get someone to give you half their winnings in exchange for hearing your nonsense cheerleader crap at a blackjack table...I can get a homeless person to STOP doing that for $5.


Very nice of you to want a freeroll from someone who posted 3 years ago.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
TwoFeathersATL
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October 30th, 2015 at 2:09:23 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Very nice of you to want a freeroll from someone who posted 3 years ago.


What was that?
I missed something important, again....
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
tigertiger
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July 1st, 2019 at 10:55:44 PM permalink
Hi
I am interesting for baccarat of pattern recognition and prediction system, however I would like you tell me which system is better worth to buy.
Thanks
tigertiger
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July 1st, 2019 at 10:56:56 PM permalink
Hi
I am interesting for baccarat of pattern recognition and prediction system, however I would like you tell me which system is better worth to buy.
Thanks
AxelWolf
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July 1st, 2019 at 11:04:43 PM permalink
Quote: tigertiger

Hi
I am interesting for baccarat of pattern recognition and prediction system, however I would like you tell me which system is better worth to buy.
Thanks

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OnceDear
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July 2nd, 2019 at 2:06:07 AM permalink
Quote: tigertiger


I am interesting for baccarat of pattern recognition and prediction system, however I would like you tell me which system is better worth to buy.
Thanks

Hi Welcome to the forum.
Hi, I can give you one of the best and simplest baccarat betting system, and I'll give you a cast iron money back guarantee. I'm not allowed to sell my system here.
Sit and observe the table for a while until you see the exact sequence BBTPPTBBBTPPTBTPTBT.
Then bet table minimum on banker, just one time...
... To be continued.

Meanwhile, work your way through the betting systems sub-forum here for further clues.
Last edited by: OnceDear on Jul 2, 2019
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fossiewizard08
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November 8th, 2019 at 2:19:08 AM permalink
Hi there ! I Hope You are Still Interested on swopping ? I Need these two for now please !

Casino Code by Dr. Lim from millionebooks dot com
and
Magic Number Roulette system from Donny Millionaire

for my

Roulette boss from - or

007 Roulette System from

Roulette Tycoon from

Roulette Master Pro by Rob Grant from

or any other Title you need I`m also a collector now for 9 years and Do Play Professionally So Please let me know or Anybody Else out there ,because I see you`r e mail came back as fail to send so Thanks again guys ! Vossie
bogdanm
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December 7th, 2020 at 2:13:29 AM permalink
Hello Man,

Do you still trade I`m interested in some of the ebooks? Are you still on this forum?
adiaacheampong
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December 17th, 2020 at 6:40:27 AM permalink
I'm interested too
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December 18th, 2020 at 5:06:31 AM permalink
it seems that people don't come here anymore. I would especially like to talk about betting platforms, for example, I use parimatch (Link removed by Mod) and highly recommend it to others.
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December 19th, 2020 at 8:09:23 PM permalink
Very interesting information. And very useful information
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