Welcome to WOVQuote: Randombacplay12I haven't been playing baccarat for long
About 5 years
Yeah. Sure!Quote:
So I checked this game out and it's a winner.
Quote:I go to the casino 5 days a week sometimes 6
I'm not greedy, I aim for 6 units, I lock in 5 then keep playing till I loose one bet. At the very least my goal is 5 units a day.
Good for you
It has its placeQuote:Obviously I don't win every single day, but I sure as hell win more days than not....
I bet $200 units . . . think I'm a dumbass because I play martingale
Is 1 in 8 very rare?Quote:...very rarely do i loose 3 in a row. ...
Hmmmmm. Yeah. Sure!Quote:Average is 2 days, but a lot of times I only lose 1 day week.
I'm not negative. I'm positive that you claim more than incredible luck. I'm positive that your claims make you a statistical outlierQuote:I'm just tired of the negative nancies.
if you are the casino, or if you are VERY lucky, or if you put at risk a far more significant amount than your win goal.Quote:Baccarat is beatable to an extent.
And that's where your post unravels.Quote:You won't be a millionaire but worst comes to worst you can damn well make an average wage.
and stupider forum posts?Quote:...5- get your strategy and stick with it don't change, don't get emotionally attached to your money, this will make you make stupid decisions
Why.... JUST WHY?Quote:6- know when to walk away, in my case I walk away if I lose my 5 units and walk away when I win 5
Nope. I'm still positive. Positive that your claimed profits could never be sustained at your claimed rate of play over your claimed playing 'lifetime'Quote:...So stop being negative Nancy's,
I'd bet my lucky monkey on itQuote:As you can imagine it takes a while for all the signs to align
Hate is not the right word. How about incredulity?Quote:P-s - there will be lots of hate on this post
I'm not calling you a troll, because that would be against the rules. I'm not accusing you of lying. But don't accuse me of being negative. I'm quite quite positive about what I perceive.
320k max
Quote: Randombacplay12200 min
320k max
I'll bite.
What is the little green dot below the Avatar all about?
That's bs
Sometimes I've sat there for 3hrs bouncing around even.
And yeah I don't like working, so only go to work when I lose.
I'm with an agency so I just message when I want work and I got work the next day.
Rule 1 - never rely on casino as your primary income
I'm not trying to prove a thing to anyone.
You guys are from across the world why would I care what your think.
I bet my life on it you don't play big at all.
Become friends with the big players, then you will understand
I have a 75 yesr old Asian friend who comes in with 10k every single day 7 days a week
Almost everyday walks out with 1-1.5k that's his goal
I know this because I play next to him
Of course he bets a little higher
Quote: Randombacplay12200 min
320k max
hey randombac79,
what casino is this that is offering such a ridiculous spread?
Quote: Randombacplay12And you can't say sit in casino for 40 hrs because I make 500 in an hr
The question isn't about how long we can or cannot sit, it's about why you cannot you play for longer than one to two shoes?
(and for the record, if I was earning $500 per hour I absolutely would be able to stay inside a casino for eight hours every day, so you are 100% wrong on that one)
If there is a good bet at 8:00 in the morning, does that really mean there will not be another good bet at that casino for another 24-hours? If that's true, how are you able to predict what time of the day good betting opportunities will come up? Or might another good betting opportunity still come up later in the day? If so, then if you continue to make more good bets that day, you will continue to earn more money
Be happy with small wins
Quote: Randombacplay12It's all about pushing your luck, if ppl weren't greedy then casinos wouldn't exist
Be happy with small wins
Wrong. Casinos win no matter how players play. It's called "the house advantage". No system, no amount of hydration and no quitting when ahead will ever change that.
ZCore13
I'm not trying to sell anything lol
So not pushing any so called systems onto you
Quote: Randombacplay12And yes casino are built based on greed
I'd say they're built on ignorance. You offer a scenario where someone walks into a negative expectation game, with out truly knowing or understanding how the system works in most cases.
When players do understand how it works, they're singled out and barred from playing.
Quote: Dodsferd
When players do understand how it works, they're singled out and barred from playing.
That's just not true. I know the house advantage and optimal play for every game I play and i've never been singled out or barred.
I would estimate I personally know 200 -300 people by name that gamble and not one of them has ever been singled out or barred from playing.
The percentage of people barred from playing at any casino in the U.S. for being too good is probably something like 0.000001.
That's just not reality to say players get banned for understanding how games and casinos operate and make money.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13Quote: Dodsferd
When players do understand how it works, they're singled out and barred from playing.
That's just not true. I know the house advantage and optimal play for every game I play and i've never been singled out or barred.
I would estimate I personally know 200 -300 people by name that gamble and not one of them has ever been singled out or barred from playing.
The percentage of people barred from playing at any casino in the U.S. for being too good is probably something like 0.000001.
That's just not reality to say players get banned for understanding how games and casinos operate and make money.
ZCore13
It's a blanket response more than anything. Any AP I've ever seen play in the places I've worked at, has been tracked and monitored. If their play warrants a loss for the casino, something is done about it on a decent percentage of the time.
It depends on the player, and a few other circumstances. I'm also not speaking in regards to gambling in the US.
Quote: Randombacplay12It's all about pushing your luck, if ppl weren't greedy then casinos wouldn't exist
Be happy with small wins
Doesn't the casino push its luck? They're willing to take any bet all day, every day. That's far more greedy than any player. How are they able to survive?
Quote: TomGDoesn't the casino push its luck? They're willing to take any bet all day, every day. That's far more greedy than any player. How are they able to survive?
House Edge.
Quote: Randombacplay12
Gambling is like war
Before your gambling session you need to be prepared like your about to go into battle
Eat up
Hydrate
Good night sleep
Focus
I have no idea about Baccarat - but this part is awesome.
Quote: ukaserexI have no idea about Baccarat - but this part is awesome.
Do all those things and you're guaranteed to
win.
Quote: EvenBobDo all those things and you're guaranteed to
win.
But you'll need to quit when you win a certain amount, so you can be confident of winning tomorrow :o)
Quote: OnceDearBut you'll need to quit when you win a certain amount, so you can be confident of winning tomorrow :o)
Don't forget to know which hands to olay. You can't play every hand.
ZCore13
Quote: DodsferdHouse Edge.Quote: TomGDoesn't the casino push its luck? They're willing to take any bet all day, every day. That's far more greedy than any player. How are they able to survive?
Not true. All that is required from the player to overcome the house edge is to drink water and avoid greed
fountains or beverage stands. They know a dehydrated
player is an easy mark.
Ensure you are fit, hydrated and well fed, but not tired or in need of a pee.
Stay alert so that you recognise when a winning hand is (likely to be) about to appear.
Tend to play the winning hands more and the losing hands less. The Casino will rig the shoe to make that easy.
Leave the table for about 12 hours or more when the cards know that you are onto them.
Avoid greed. If there is the opportunity to work 8 hours for $500 then do so rather than waste time at $500 per hour in a casino, because that is greedy and foolish.
Baccarat has no meaningful edge for the casino. They offer it out of the kindness of their hearts and because they know that very very few know the secret. The casino makes its money from players who get greedy, even those with a winning system.
Oh.... and be full of BS. And I don't mean basic strategy.
$:o)
Quote: Randombacplay12Once dear,
I bet my life on it you don't play big at all.
Not one of your wisest bets.
Quote: Dicenor33they even offer free water bottles to improve the bottom line.
They didn't get the hydration memo. Figures..
Ka-ching!
Quote: EvenBobThat's the reason Vegas casinos have no drinking
fountains or beverage stands. They know a dehydrated
player is an easy mark.
I know where there is one in a casino, and it's on the strip.
You guys are funny
Classic
Quote: Randombacplay12
That's why when I play I always make the dealers manual shuffle the shoe
The only way the casino wins on baccarat is half price on 6
Or if you stupid enough to play commission tables
Generally writing, players can't "make" the dealers manually shuffle the cards aka the "shoe". The casino has it's practice and policy, and dealers don't have this latitude and I doubt a casino is going to listen to a small players demands about shuffling. A $200. a had baccarat player is a small player.
The "half price on 6" aka no commission baccarat is a game which is for low limit players and has a higher house advantage(so say the experts). So here we have you saying the casino is offering a $200-300,000. spread at a low limit(normally) game with a higher house advantage? which attracts wealthy Asian players?
No worries. It's Saturday morning over here. If I had something better to read I'd be reading it.
Aussie beef sucks BTW. That "gamely" taste is good for lions and dingos, but not humans.
,I love me a good bullfight...
But serious bac players hate commission
Because your left with all this shrapnel
Quote: Randombacplay12I play 200 but double 4 times so not really low limit
But serious bac players hate commission
Because your left with all this shrapnel
Serious baccarat players know the "banker" hand has a mathematical advantage over the "player" hand, and that therefore the commission is required. We would all like to see banker/player wins pay two to one, but they don't.
and you need a mentor, preferably Asian and at least 70 years old. Don't call him a Chinaman.Quote: OnceDearWhoo Hoooooo. The Holy Grail. A Sure fire winning system is all coming together in this thread. The OP didn't want to reveal all, but I think that between us we have got it all figured out.
Ensure you are fit, hydrated and well fed, but not tired or in need of a pee.
Stay alert so that you recognise when a winning hand is (likely to be) about to appear.
Tend to play the winning hands more and the losing hands less. The Casino will rig the shoe to make that easy.
Leave the table for about 12 hours or more when the cards know that you are onto them.
Avoid greed. If there is the opportunity to work 8 hours for $500 then do so rather than waste time at $500 per hour in a casino, because that is greedy and foolish.
Baccarat has no meaningful edge for the casino. They offer it out of the kindness of their hearts and because they know that very very few know the secret. The casino makes its money from players who get greedy, even those with a winning system.
Oh.... and be full of BS. And I don't mean basic strategy.
$:o)