ThatDonGuy
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February 17th, 2015 at 12:16:27 PM permalink
Yes, this system is guaranteed to drive people crazy - what did you think I meant?

This is response to Yet Still Even Another Question About Martingales.

Here's how it works:

1. Determine the smallest number of consecutive results that is "impossible." For example, if you say, "It is impossible for red to come up 25 times in a row!", then the number is 25.

2. Wait until the result comes up one time less than the number. For example, if the number in Step 1 is 25, then wait until red comes up 24 times in a row.

3. Bet against the result. Since a loss would result in a streak that you yourself said was "impossible", then your bet will always win. Profit!

"But what if the streak result does come up again?" Then your statement in step 1 about that length of streak being impossible was false. That's not my problem. You're the one who claimed that it was impossible.
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February 17th, 2015 at 12:27:04 PM permalink
Nothing is impossible in gambling, gamble long enuf and one will see everything. I remember a big time baccarat game a few years back. Easiest shoe to follow, strong like 4 banks, 4 players, 3 banks, 3 players, 5 banks, 5 players and then like 17 chop-chop in a frigging row! Everyone winning huge. And then the impossible became possible. For like 20 hands or more, every side everyone wagered on would be reduced to zero if we were all on one side. Then whatever side the least amount of money was on would win. Everyone began wagering huge money. Whatever side we were on, say it had a 2 and the other side no one was on, had a 5, that side would pull a 3 or 4 and our side would pull an 8 for reduction to zero, stuff similar to that. This kind of stuff normally happens 2 or 3 or maybe 4 hands or so. This went on for well over 20 hands. Impossible, but very possible.
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February 17th, 2015 at 1:41:19 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

Yes, this system is guaranteed to drive people crazy - what did you think I meant?

This is response to Yet Still Even Another Question About Martingales.

Here's how it works:

1. Determine the smallest number of consecutive results that is "impossible." For example, if you say, "It is impossible for red to come up 25 times in a row!", then the number is 25.

2. Wait until the result comes up one time less than the number. For example, if the number in Step 1 is 25, then wait until red comes up 24 times in a row.

3. Bet against the result. Since a loss would result in a streak that you yourself said was "impossible", then your bet will always win. Profit!

"But what if the streak result does come up again?" Then your statement in step 1 about that length of streak being impossible was false. That's not my problem. You're the one who claimed that it was impossible.



In the title of the thread, you forgot to place the word "Loss" in between Guaranteed and system :-)
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rdw4potus
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February 17th, 2015 at 1:42:36 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

Yes, this system is guaranteed to drive people crazy - what did you think I meant?

This is response to Yet Still Even Another Question About Martingales.

Here's how it works:

1. Determine the smallest number of consecutive results that is "impossible." For example, if you say, "It is impossible for red to come up 25 times in a row!", then the number is 25.

2. Wait until the result comes up one time less than the number. For example, if the number in Step 1 is 25, then wait until red comes up 24 times in a row.

3. Bet everything you have against the result. Since a loss would result in a streak that you yourself said was "impossible", then your bet will always win. Profit!

"But what if the streak result does come up again?" Then your statement in step 1 about that length of streak being impossible was false. That's not my problem. You're the one who claimed that it was impossible.



Great system. But, FTFY:-)
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EvenBob
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February 17th, 2015 at 1:50:32 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

then wait until red comes up 24 times in a row.
.



You could wait a decade to see that. Better
to bet with a streak than against it. You can
only lose once doing that, when the streak
ends.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
RS
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February 17th, 2015 at 1:52:39 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

You could wait a decade to see that. Better
to bet with a streak than against it. You can
only lose once doing that, when the streak
ends.



He's right, you know.
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February 17th, 2015 at 1:56:40 PM permalink
Ignoring cheating or past-posting, the best way to get a guaranteed result is not to bet.
EvenBob
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February 17th, 2015 at 2:21:47 PM permalink
Quote: RS

He's right, you know.



If you go to a casino that has 3-5 roulette
wheels, wander around and look for streaks
of r/b, o/e, and h/l. When you see a streak
of six or more, bet once that it will continue.
You can get on winning streaks yourself
doing this, and you will seldom lose much.
On bad days you'll mostly stay around even.
If you're betting quarters you can get ahead
a few hundred sometimes.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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February 17th, 2015 at 2:28:47 PM permalink
It doesn't matter when you start betting. The only good thing about walking around looking for streaks to bet with and stopping when it ends is that you will be spending a lot of time not betting while you're searching and stopping.
EvenBob
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February 17th, 2015 at 2:36:30 PM permalink
Quote: rudeboyoi

It doesn't matter when you start betting. The only good thing about walking around looking for streaks to bet with and stopping when it ends is that you will be spending a lot of time not betting while you're searching and stopping.



It keeps you from making bets that deviate
from what you're doing, and it keeps your
losses low. It's a break even system that
lets you win some days, and keeps your
losses at a minimum. What's wrong with
that.

What tends to happen is, one day you'll
come out 8 units ahead. Then the next few
times you play you lose them back at a
couple units a session. It's for fun. I tried
this about 10 years ago and one time I
got 4 zeros in a row on 4 different wheels.
One of the dealers was smirking, so I left.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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February 17th, 2015 at 2:59:40 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

(original post)

That's some of the funniest stuff I've read in a while. Thanks.



Quote: EvenBob

You could wait a decade to see that.[24 reds]

Well, if you're looking for problems with Don's "system", there it is.



Quote: EvenBob

Better
to bet with a streak than against it. You can
only lose once doing that, when the streak
ends.

Yeah, I've said this many times.

For every guy that ever said, "Look honey, seven reds in a row. Let's bet on black," there was a guy who, not two minutes earlier was saying, "Look honey, six reds in a row. Let's bet on black."
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February 17th, 2015 at 3:23:30 PM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

Ignoring cheating or past-posting, the best way to get a guaranteed result is not to bet.



How about a nice game of chess?
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February 18th, 2015 at 3:27:21 AM permalink
"Impossible doesn't mean very hard. Very hard is winning a Nobel Prize, impossible is eating the Sun"
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February 18th, 2015 at 11:36:04 AM permalink
Quote: noy2222

"Impossible doesn't mean very hard. Very hard is winning a Nobel Prize, impossible is eating the Sun"



Beg pardon?

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February 18th, 2015 at 12:09:24 PM permalink
Quote: RS

He's right, you know.

In general one might say wait a decade for some event to occur ... but remember... it was just about ten years ago that Lady Luck started counting .... .
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February 18th, 2015 at 12:34:16 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

...It's a break even system that
lets you win some days, and keeps your
losses at a minimum. What's wrong with
that...

(emphasis added)

Please provide me with the math that this is a break even system, or even near a break even system. Assuming someone were to do this and only be betting 1-1 payouts ("outside") then independent trails says it's a -5.26% system, not break even.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
EvenBob
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February 18th, 2015 at 12:39:29 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

it's a -5.26% system, not break even.



Sigh. It's break even as far as your
winning and losing is concerned.
The house vig is separate from that,
you have pay it no matter what your
system does.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
pokerface
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February 18th, 2015 at 2:33:26 PM permalink
where is the system? I still don't get it.
winning streaks come and go, losing streak never ends.
pokerface
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February 18th, 2015 at 2:38:44 PM permalink
Quote: noy2222

impossible is eating the Sun


The question is: why do you want to do that?
Eating the Sun doesn't earn you any money, or comps, or even tier credits.
winning streaks come and go, losing streak never ends.
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February 18th, 2015 at 2:39:24 PM permalink
Quote: pokerface

where is the system? I still don't get it.



1. wait until an "impossible" streak has happened
2. bet the other side with all your money
3. ??
4. profit
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February 18th, 2015 at 2:46:06 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

1. wait until an "impossible" streak has happened
2. bet the other side with all your money
3. ??
4. profit


noy2222 just said "impossible is eating the Sun".
I also heard "solar eclipse is some animal eating the Sun."
So you mean I bet all my money after a total solar eclipse? That's doable at least.
winning streaks come and go, losing streak never ends.
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