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May 18th, 2014 at 5:44:43 AM permalink
I wonder if there is such thing as an optimal strategy while betting on 2 out of the 3 dozens in roulette?

Does anyone bet this way or have any advise?

I use a slight progression while I bet and usually manage to stay out of trouble.
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May 18th, 2014 at 7:21:02 AM permalink
I'm not a math guru, but everything I've read on this forum and the information at the Wizard of Odds site says the answer is "no, hell no."
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May 18th, 2014 at 7:55:56 AM permalink
Quote: Stats

I wonder if there is such thing as an optimal strategy while betting on 2 out of the 3 dozens in roulette?

Does anyone bet this way or have any advise?

I use a slight progression while I bet and usually manage to stay out of trouble.



Advice: Don't play Roulette.

The only, "Optimal Strategy," for Roulette is not to make the Basket Bet if you're playing 0/00 Roulette. Roulette still sucks, though, because of the tremendously high 5.26% House Edge working against you. That House Edge is higher than the House Edge on the Base Game of most Table Games.

Betting systems only work in the long run if you own the casino and have a player employing them.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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May 18th, 2014 at 8:06:35 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Advice: Don't play Roulette.

The only, "Optimal Strategy," for Roulette is not to make the Basket Bet if you're playing 0/00 Roulette. Roulette still sucks, though, because of the tremendously high 5.26% House Edge working against you. That House Edge is higher than the House Edge on the Base Game of most Table Games.

Betting systems only work in the long run if you own the casino and have a player employing them.

You can't beat the game of Roulette with any SYSTEM. There are legal ways to profit while playing the game. And its not to complicated to learn. No clocking, dealer mistakes or anything. For the right price I could, but probably wont tell.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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May 18th, 2014 at 8:40:55 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

You can't beat the game of Roulette with any SYSTEM. There are legal ways to profit while playing the game. And its not to complicated to learn. No clocking, dealer mistakes or anything. For the right price I could, but probably wont tell.



I offer you one straw penny for these ways.
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May 18th, 2014 at 8:52:36 AM permalink
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I offer you one straw penny for these ways.

One day you will look back on this, Then you will hear a story and say to yourself, I defiantly low balled that, he wasn't joking around.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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May 18th, 2014 at 9:01:21 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

You can't beat the game of Roulette with any SYSTEM. There are legal ways to profit while playing the game.And its not to complicated to lkearn. No clocking, dealer mistakes or anything. For the right price I could, but probably wont tell.

interesting choice of words.
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May 18th, 2014 at 9:04:19 AM permalink
Quote: JimRockford

Quote: AxelWolf

You can't beat the game of Roulette with any SYSTEM. There are legal ways to profit while playing the game.And its not to complicated to lkearn. No clocking, dealer mistakes or anything. For the right price I could, but probably wont tell.

interesting choice of words.

Yes, the word win is conspicuously absent.,
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May 18th, 2014 at 9:30:02 AM permalink
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I wonder if there is such thing as an optimal strategy while betting on 2 out of the 3 dozens in roulette?


Yes, buy one of those five thousand dollar roulette watches; follow its advice, if it just happens to work, sell the watch for ten thousands dollars and write your memoirs. If the decisions based on the watch do not happen to work out, pawn the stupid thing and write your memoirs.

Either way, the decisions you made based on the watch selecting which dozen to play are no different than those derived from any other formula or technique or strategy. You are trying to predict the future based on past events not determinative of the future event.

You might just as well choose based on rain fall patterns in Saskatchewan. Rainfall in Saskatchewan does not affect where that ball will land on the next spin... and neither does where it landed on the last spin.
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May 18th, 2014 at 1:50:34 PM permalink
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You can't beat the game of Roulette with any SYSTEM. There are legal ways to profit while playing the game. And its not to complicated to learn. No clocking, dealer mistakes or anything. For the right price I could, but probably wont tell.



Are you talking along the lines of comps?
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May 18th, 2014 at 3:37:48 PM permalink
Quote: Stats

I wonder if there is such thing as an optimal strategy while betting on 2 out of the 3 dozens in roulette?
Does anyone bet this way or have any advise?
I use a slight progression while I bet and usually manage to stay out of trouble.

What do you call "an optimal strategy"? Optimal w.r.t. what criterion?

Let us accept that you know your expectation is always negative (that is what is meant with "All systems suck").
Inside that constraint, you can still manipulate the relative value of variance vs. expectation according to some objective to be maximized.
For example you may want to maximize the probability of winning; then the few cases when you lose will mean you lose big.
Or you may want to maximize variance (bigger wins, bigger losses). Or minimize it (but that would be silly).
Or you may want to maximize the duration of your playing session, given your bankroll.
Etc.

All these are achieved in two manners:
1. on one draw : Choice of various bets and their relative amounts.
2. on the succession of draws : Progression or any other type of martingale scheme.

On one bet you do not change House Edge. You modify relative variance.
Progressions affect the house edge by a (very) tiny portion, because you are betting different amounts according to winning or losing history, and house edge is proportional to amount bet. But remember: the change is minor and by no means sufficient to turn the game in your favour.
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May 18th, 2014 at 4:55:42 PM permalink
I have a slot player roulette support group encouraging one big bet inside per trip. With just one twenty, $720 or nothing is fine enough. The roulette wheel I call the best slot machine in most casinos. Really how many hundreds or millions do people risking $1000 for there to be one person winning $35000? This is the reason casinos won't take these bets. Turning it into ******bation with twenty rounds would be stupid to me though.
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