Dane
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March 29th, 2014 at 3:05:52 AM permalink
Double Up after each loss (the negative progression Martingale) is not a good idea. And if we choose to double our outside bet after each hit, we are sure to lose it all. We NEVER know when the winning streaks of series stop. This is the basic problem.
Instead of guessing blindly, we could choose to place two bets and only practice parlay right after winning both at the same time. In other words: Go back to level one in all other cases. The chosen combination is essential. Ten of the 18 Black numbers are Even (similarly ten of the 18 Red numbers are Odd).
So if we choose to wager BLACK & ODD, only EIGHT numbers makes us win both. And EIGHT numbers makes us lose both (and then there is 0 and maybe
00). The other TWENTY numbers in area 1-36 makes no difference ( we are winning here and losing a similar amount there).
With this simple procedure we don´t have to think or worry too much.
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odiousgambit
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March 29th, 2014 at 5:08:56 AM permalink
Quote: Dane

The other TWENTY numbers in area 1-36 makes no difference



except to the house, which never allows a bet at roulette that doesnt have an edge
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rdw4potus
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March 29th, 2014 at 8:19:19 AM permalink
Quote: Dane


So if we choose to wager BLACK & ODD, only EIGHT numbers makes us win both. And EIGHT numbers makes us lose both (and then there is 0 and maybe
00). The other TWENTY numbers in area 1-36 makes no difference ( we are winning here and losing a similar amount there).
With this simple procedure we don´t have to think or worry too much.



uh, yep. We push 20 times, we win 8 times, and we lose 8 times. Oh, and 0 and 00 are also losers. So, that's 20 pushes, 8 wins, and 10 losses. Looks like 2 more losses than wins to me. What's 2/38ths again? Oh, yeah...the house edge in American roulette.
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treetopbuddy
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March 29th, 2014 at 9:16:13 AM permalink
While playing Roulette, the tower whispers to me and says "the longest run in the past 50+ spins have been but two"…..r,b,r,b,b,r,r,b,r,b,r,b,r,b,r,r,b,r…….etc. So, I get sucked into the Gambler's Fallacy vortex and decide to start playing FTL (follow the last) outcome and parlay all winnings. The idea was that a streak of no more than two had not occurred for 50+ spins or an hour at the table, and that a streak was due…..hahahahaha….

Shortly after employing the strategy a streak of eight reds showed which means I parlayed 7 winning bets. I pulled my money off the table…..didn't stick around to see if the streak continued.

As a person that has always used negative progressions, I found using a positive progression to be liberating. I was using the houses money against the house. The idea that I could only lose my original bet really takes the pressure off.

Chasing losing bets is no fun.
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Dane
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March 29th, 2014 at 11:38:46 AM permalink
In my country (Denmark) we are allowed to bet both Black and Odd at the same time. Knowing that we in most cases leave the parlay with some money left
takes even more pressure off. Yes, Parlay normally requires nerves of steel.
In the European version of roulette there is only one zero. Furthermore: When it comes (in my country here in Europe) all even bets are divided in two.
In that case we lose only half of the bets. But we have just doubled, so...
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rdw4potus
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March 29th, 2014 at 11:50:06 AM permalink
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In my country (Denmark) we are allowed to bet both Black and Odd at the same time. Knowing that we in most cases leave the parlay with some money left
takes even more pressure off. Yes, Parlay normally requires nerves of steel.
In the European version of roulette there is only one zero. Furthermore: When it comes (in my country here in Europe) all even bets are divided in two.
In that case we lose only half of the bets. But we have just doubled, so...



Great. You're playing with good rules. So that's 9 losses, 8 wins, and 20 pushes. But 1 of the losses only counts as 1/2. So 8.5 losers, 8 winners, and 20 pushes. .5/37=1.35%. Oh, look...it's the house edge of european roulette. So, what does your betting system accomplish exactly?
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Dane
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March 30th, 2014 at 12:33:05 AM permalink
Yes, we have good rules here. I wish you had the same rules. Of course I have looked at the house edge. I do know what we can expect to lose in the long run.
But as the clock is ticking, I repeat to myself, that time is still important. The pure parlay player on Black NEVER knows for certain on beforehand when it is best to stop. My version does not require nerves of steel. What it accomplishes might mainly be for your nervous system.
By the way: Parlay is often referred to as a system in which to play with money from the casino. This statement is not quite true, however. The initial bet is still on the table during a winning sequence. If you continue long enough, you´ll lose that too!
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March 30th, 2014 at 12:55:02 AM permalink
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The pure parlay player on Black NEVER knows for certain on beforehand when it is best to stop.



I don't think ANYONE playing roullete knows beforehand when it's best to stop. I could play my 33 all day long, not hit once, then stop and boom next spin it hits.

Your version is just as susceptible to the house edge as anyone else's way go playing.

Best of luck to you.
Dane
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March 30th, 2014 at 3:49:15 AM permalink
Quote: michael99000

I don't think ANYONE playing roullete knows beforehand when it's best to stop. I could play my 33 all day long, not hit once, then stop and boom next spin it hits.

Your version is just as susceptible to the house edge as anyone else's way go playing.

Best of luck to you.


Thanks! I did not say that my version overcomes the house edge. But IF you choose to play roulette with a system, you should pick your system in accordance with your nerves, Money and TIME. The clock is not ticking if there is no clock on the casino wall. We may stare at the electronic reader board unable to TRANSCEND TIME AND THE NEXT SPIN. All day long. And all night long. Waiting for to 33 to come. Or Black & Odd.
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