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Beethoven9th
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October 26th, 2013 at 1:50:47 PM permalink
Quote: novicegambler

OMG.. I was always at the forum replying to everyone since morning


You were posting from 10:46 to 11:46 this morning. Then you took a break and started posting again right after ringstarfan made his "mistake" by answering a question from me that was directed at you.
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October 26th, 2013 at 1:53:13 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Look at my post, Einstein. My message is directly under novicegambler's quote, and a mod can confirm this if you really want to press this issue.



Getting precious about who replies to who on an open forum is... well precious... relax and stop looking for fake accounts so hard... they reveal themselves eventually without intense cross examination.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
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October 26th, 2013 at 1:53:58 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Awesome! It should be an "interesting" trip. lol

Sounds like the Dragon side bet, which wins when the Banker wins the hand with a 3-card total of 7.



It is not dragon bet. Dragon pays odds according to what the card variation outcome totals resulting in a side bet made on either player or banker.

Pay table for Dragon

Win by 9 points 30–1
Win by 8 points 10–1
Win by 6-7 points 4–1
Win by 4-5 points 2–1

ODDS for House edge

Player (8 decks) 2.50%
Banker (8 decks) 8.53%

One of the Gr8 three musketeers had mentioned in a post to Novicegambler about this being a better way of betting in comparison to betting the Tie. this is not true and not relevant to his secret system because it does not relate to the 1/100 theory.

Thus, you can never win playing Dragon side bet. it is also known as the sucker bet and only has less than 40% chance of winning with NO PROFIT.
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:01:04 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

Getting precious about who replies to who on an open forum is... well precious... relax and stop looking for fake accounts so hard... they reveal themselves eventually without intense cross examination.


It's the second time this has happened with a "new" member. Also, he nonchalantly answered a question written in Hindi. Instead of saying, "Why the hell are you asking me a question in a foreign language?" he just answered without missing a beat. Most people would be like, "WTF?" Anyway, there are a ton of other red flags all over this thread.
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:01:04 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Um...I don't think so. At the time you responded, novicegambler's direct quote was in my post.

God I hope you dispute this. (The mods can easily see my initial message right after I clicked 'Post' the first time.....lol)


EDIT: And now novicegambler just "happens" to come back. *headshake* lol...



I don't see any quote. I posted a comment and you followed my post with some Hindi language in its own post without quotes directly after my post. I assumed you were directing this funny symbols in reply to my post to which I Google translated it understanding it was a question and answered it in the same manor directing it to you Beethoven9.

Do not analyze me, as I do not deserve the seat of such gr8'ness as the three musketeers here. I am mearly a peasant awaiting throne-ship to be handed down to me as I await the success of the hand me downs offered by such Gr8'ness. I am humbles in the presence and honored by you in thinking such kind gesture.
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:03:03 PM permalink
Quote: ringstarfan

It is not dragon bet. Dragon pays odds according to what the Card variation outcome totals resulting in a side bet made on either player or banker.


You need to google "dragon baccarat". You're talking about the wrong one.
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:06:00 PM permalink
Quote: ringstarfan

I don't see any quote..


Then you're blind. It's there.
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:08:21 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Then you're blind. It's there.



Beethoven, I do not see any quote. enough with this mad mad theory. let us indulge in orange juice and whatever you are smoking.

Wait wait wait! I see it now. it has been added. That was not there originally. I see it is there now. To the chambers I go, I now must bow down to the GR8Beethoven #9
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:13:23 PM permalink
Quote: ringstarfan

Beethoven, I do not see any quote. enough with this mad mad theory. let us indulge in orange juice and whatever you are smoking.

Wait wait wait! I see it now. it has been added. That was not there originally. I see it is there now. To the chambers I go, I now must bow down to the GR8Beethoven #9


Apparently you can read Hindi, but you have a hard time reading English. I already stated in a previous post that novicegambler's quote was in my post originally and that I hope you dispute this fact because we can get a moderator here who can easily see what I initially posted.


EDIT: BTW, you keep using the term 'GR8'. How do you know so much about GR8 if you just joined today?
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:18:47 PM permalink
The hindi was directed to me and not you ringstarfan..
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:20:25 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Apparently you can read Hindi, but you have a hard time reading English. I already stated in a previous post that novicegambler's quote was in my post originally and that I hope you dispute this fact because we can get a moderator here who can easily see what I initially posted.


EDIT: BTW, you keep using the term 'GR8'. How do you know so much about GR8 if you just joined today?



Because every other post all over this forum is you and I see Frosted Flakes subconsciously running through my mind, because their GR8...t!!!!!!

you are the 4th musketeer i read about every other post. you live here. You never answered my question?

Sir Beethoven, I am falling behinde'th in my work. I must leave this place before I lose my job.

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Beethoven9th
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:30:11 PM permalink
Quote: ringstarfan

you are the 4th musketeer i read about every other post. you live here.

You're obviously reading only the baccarat threads. (Gee, I wonder why??) Because I've been posting mainly in the same 2 or 3 bac threads recently.


Quote: ringstarfan

You never answered my question?

You didn't ask one.
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:36:48 PM permalink
Quote: novicegambler

The hindi was directed to me and not you ringstarfan..



मैं माफी चाहता हूँ, बोली वहाँ नहीं था और मुझे लगता है वह अजीब प्रतीकों में मेरे साथ मजाक कर रहा था. मैं मैं गूगल यह है कि यह जवाब खुलासा अनुवाद तक यह हिंदी नहीं पता था. आप चीनी समझ में आया?

这是我的语言.
Beethoven9th
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:38:53 PM permalink
Quote: ringstarfan

I'm sorry, the quote was not there...


Um...yes, it was. Do you really want me to get a mod to verify this? lol
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:40:37 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Um...yes, it was. Do you really want me to get a mod to verify this? lol



Sir Beethoven, no worries, it was a typical mistake on my behalf. It's cool? then Grrrrr 8. I'm gonna go buy a gigantic box of frosted flakes today after work.
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:42:50 PM permalink
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:44:37 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

You're obviously reading only the baccarat threads. (Gee, I wonder why??) Because I've been posting mainly in the same 2 or 3 bac threads recently.


You didn't ask one.



我看到你的名字在顶部螺纹不断,并带领我读的文章。(I see your name in the top threads constantly and lead me to read the post.)
Translated that for you Sir Beethoven #9.
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:46:59 PM permalink
Quote: ringstarfan

我看到你的名字在顶部螺纹不断,并带领我读的文章。(I see your name in the top threads constantly and lead me to read the post.)
Translated that for you Sir Beethoven #9.



Oh! Gr8! we've got chinese going up against hindi going up against some opera guy who likes frosted flakes because they're Gr8! I think I will have curry for dinner today. Ooh! lets not forget the mushrooms & smokeables provided by SIR Van BEETHOVEN the 9th.
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:55:04 PM permalink
This thread's hilarious. I know a lot of people here think I'm overanalyzing everything, but trust me, I'm not. I've been dealing with computer trolls for ages now, going all the way back to the old CompuServe era. The technology may have changed, but the trolls haven't! lol
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October 26th, 2013 at 2:56:55 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

This thread's hilarious. I know a lot of people here think I'm overanalyzing everything, but trust me, I'm not. I've been dealing with computer trolls for ages now, going all the way back to the old CompuServe era. The technology has changed, but unfortunately, the trolls haven't! lol...



Now you're starting to sound greek to me beethoven.
Are you greek or a computer geek on crack?

Seriously, you don't even relate to anything pertaining to the OP's point of view. you are a full time forum troll and i'm surprised you havn't been suspended for breaking the rules of the forum.

ATTENTION MODS > BEETHOVEN is spamming forum threads with Frosted Flakes because they're GR8.

You invite yourself into everyone's threads and start blabbing about meaningless information for the simple pleasure of trolling. I'm sure you are a Gr8 guy but I also believe you should comply with the forum rules and post relative comments to the OP's thread.

If you can understand my chinese writing then please refer to the following message 停止控制线程混蛋
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October 26th, 2013 at 3:09:00 PM permalink
Quote: ringstarfan

If you can understand my chinese writing then please refer to the following message 停止控制线程混蛋


My my...the new guy's a little touchy, eh?

ATTENTION MODERATORS: ringstarfan made a personal attack using profanity written in Chinese. (His profanity is quoted)
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October 26th, 2013 at 3:27:52 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

My my...the new guy's a little touchy, eh?




ATTENTION MODERATORS: Beethoven9th has been trolling members threads and posting under the supervision of drugs.
(His 冯爵士脂肪混蛋第九 Trolling is quoted)

BEETHOVEN9th is also SPAMMING Baccarat threads with Frosted Flakes: because they're GRRRRRR-8!
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October 26th, 2013 at 3:40:54 PM permalink
If this is a bet I put my money on Beethoven9th since he will get away with his usual behavior which I find hilarious. With the other bet I put it on the fact that ringstarfan will get a minimum of a 3 day suspension.

Now that will be a double payout. Like the US selling weapons to both sides of a conflict.
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October 26th, 2013 at 3:41:52 PM permalink
Quote: ringstarfan

ATTENTION MODERATORS: Beethoven9th has been trolling members threads and posting under the supervision of drugs.
(His 冯爵士脂肪混蛋第九 Trolling is quoted)

BEETHOVEN9th is also SPAMMING Baccarat threads with Frosted Flakes: because they're GRRRRRR-8!


Damn, you're slipping, man. You were doing good, but I thought it would be at least another day or so before you became unhinged & went into meltdown mode. lol

EDIT: Looks like gr8's buddy has just chimed in.
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October 26th, 2013 at 3:47:20 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Quote: ringstarfan

ATTENTION MODERATORS: Beethoven9th has been trolling members threads and posting under the supervision of drugs.
(His 冯爵士脂肪混蛋第九 Trolling is quoted)

BEETHOVEN9th is also SPAMMING Baccarat threads with Frosted Flakes: because they're GRRRRRR-8!


Damn, you're slipping, man. You were doing good, but I thought it would be at least another day or so before you became unhinged & went into meltdown mode. lol



I really do not care if they kick me out. Stop being a 谁抽烟破解整天的家伙头 and post something that makes sense to the members who post in the threads and keep it real and relative to the OP (Original Poster) discussion. You are a 谁抽烟破解整天的家伙头 and it interrupts our discussion.
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October 26th, 2013 at 3:49:19 PM permalink
Quote: DMSCR

If this is a bet I put my money on Beethoven9th since he will get away with his usual behavior which I find hilarious. With the other bet I put it on the fact that ringstarfan will get a minimum of a 3 day suspension.

Now that will be a double payout. Like the US selling weapons to both sides of a conflict.



贝多芬家伙头谁抽烟破解整天吸奇才家伙,以避免停牌 I can't believe the mods keep Beethoven9th around as a full time spammer and shit disturber for over a year. this is stupid.

I may not be the one, but I hope many members put their foot down to your stupid and meaningless comments, distracting discussions in many threads just "Because you get away with it" 90% of your posts are "Crap" and you need to stop.
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October 26th, 2013 at 4:12:43 PM permalink
28 pages of this. LOL.
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October 26th, 2013 at 4:14:45 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th



EDIT: Looks like gr8's buddy has just chimed in.



That is MR. gr8DMSCR to you buddy! LOL.
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October 26th, 2013 at 4:39:03 PM permalink
He's banned, and I'm locking this thread.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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October 26th, 2013 at 5:40:48 PM permalink
Okay, I'm Unlocking it, but it needs to stay on topic.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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October 26th, 2013 at 5:42:52 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Okay, I'm Unlocking it, but it needs to stay on topic.



Thanks. Appreciate it.

If you notice I have never swayed off the topic
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October 28th, 2013 at 9:36:43 AM permalink
Novice Gambler: Just don't answer Beethoven the Great, or Even Bob, or other provokers. They will stop bothering.

Do not speak about yourself, your Dad, your money. Stick to the system.

And please accept that a run of luck cannot prove the math wrong. Probability is even more complex to grasp than math.

Be wary of pattern noticing: that's the way of people who don't understand probabilities.
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October 28th, 2013 at 9:55:39 AM permalink
Quote: kubikulann

Novice Gambler: Just don't answer Beethoven the Great, or Even Bob, or other provokers. They will stop bothering.

Do not speak about yourself, your Dad, your money. Stick to the system.

And please accept that a run of luck cannot prove the math wrong. Probability is even more complex to grasp than math.

Be wary of pattern noticing: that's the way of people who don't understand probabilities.



We would all love if he stuck to his system. The only problem with that is he has never even started talking about said system.

I just realized that I am also new to this site and my start date is close to vermenti's. Maybe I am another reincarnation of him. hmmm
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October 28th, 2013 at 10:03:23 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

I just realized that I am also new to this site and my start date is close to vermenti's. Maybe I am another reincarnation of him. hmmm

Varmenti! Get out of that body! :-)
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October 28th, 2013 at 10:40:32 AM permalink
Quote: kubikulann

Novice Gambler: Just don't answer Beethoven the Great, or Even Bob, or other provokers. They will stop bothering.

Do not speak about yourself, your Dad, your money. Stick to the system.

And please accept that a run of luck cannot prove the math wrong. Probability is even more complex to grasp than math.

Be wary of pattern noticing: that's the way of people who don't understand probabilities.

LOL.....If not for "Beethoven the Great, or Even Bob, or other provokers" threads like this would die faster then Gr8Vermin tti could make a new WOV account.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 29th, 2013 at 8:24:16 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

LOL.....If not for "Beethoven the Great, or Even Bob, or other provokers" threads like this would die faster then Gr8Vermin tti could make a new WOV account.



And why would that be a bad thing?
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October 29th, 2013 at 8:35:43 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Interesting. Looks like ringstarfan just responded to a question that was directed at novicegambler..........AND he understands Hindi. (I guess they're both Indian?)

This kinda reminds me of the time gr8varmenti responded to a question that was aimed at gr8player.



Bustedddddd......!
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October 29th, 2013 at 10:12:59 AM permalink
Did anyone else besides Beethoven9th see that about 1:30 or so this a.m.?

That was hilarious. I just about spit ice cream on the keyboard. Laughing so much I was tearing up and blinked and it was gone.

These bac guys make the di's seem rational, lol.
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October 29th, 2013 at 10:14:40 AM permalink
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Did anyone else besides Beethoven9th see that about 1:30 or so this a.m.?

That was hilarious. I just about spit ice cream on the keyboard. Laughing so much I was tearing up and blinked and it was gone.

These bac guys make the di's seem rational, lol.



I have no idea what you are talking about. Can you elaborate?
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October 29th, 2013 at 10:19:35 AM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

Did anyone else besides Beethoven9th see that about 1:30 or so this a.m.?

That was hilarious. I just about spit ice cream on the keyboard. Laughing so much I was tearing up and blinked and it was gone.

These bac guys make the di's seem rational, lol.


Oh, you mean when gr8varmenti was pretending to be his own fan? Yeah, as soon as I saw the username 'varmentifan' I had just about the same reaction you did.....LOL!
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October 29th, 2013 at 10:25:46 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

I have no idea what you are talking about. Can you elaborate?





Which part don't you understand?
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October 29th, 2013 at 10:26:55 AM permalink
I think he missed those posts by gr8varmenti's latest incarnation. lol
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October 29th, 2013 at 11:27:47 AM permalink
Looks like the math guys were wrong ? ? ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1218061/In-money-Gambler-banned-UK-casinos-winning-28-000-using-secret-system.html
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October 29th, 2013 at 11:34:31 AM permalink
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October 29th, 2013 at 11:38:17 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

The Daily Mail is the U.K. equivilent of The National Enquirer. 100% B.S.



He "won consistently" for all of 2 months, winning 28,000GBP? That's a small sum and a short time. Easily could be true, definitely is not newsworthy...
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October 29th, 2013 at 11:39:19 AM permalink
They can not print it if it is not true, due to UK libel laws.

" Easily could be true " He could win a fortune, that's why he is barred.
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October 29th, 2013 at 11:45:35 AM permalink
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October 29th, 2013 at 12:02:24 PM permalink
Well, he does claim that he "spent years developing a system based on simple mathematics", so he's not ignoring math..........even though we all know his 'system' is full of crap. ;)
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October 29th, 2013 at 12:12:00 PM permalink
Wait, I am confused. You guys said a person can not win because he does not believe in math. Now a winner uses math and still you do not believe ? I will go visit the dice setter threads . At least Ahigh is consistent !
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October 29th, 2013 at 12:21:59 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Did he win that much? Probably.

Did he get barred because of some "secret winning system"? Hell no!



I agree. The casino gave no reason for banning, it could
be anything. He didn't win enough over the period of
time stated for them to ban him, and all we have is his
word anyway. UK casinos are like private clubs, you have
to be a member and they can kick you out for any number
of reasons.
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