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scepticus
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October 16th, 2013 at 5:43:29 AM permalink
In a roulette forum a guy called Houston claimed that betting on the last five numbers in roulette was a winning formula. What do you guys think of this sure-fire system ?
Beethoven9th
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October 16th, 2013 at 5:59:03 AM permalink
I think know it's not a 'sure-fire' system.
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thecesspit
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October 16th, 2013 at 10:19:46 AM permalink
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In a roulette forum a guy called Houston claimed that betting on the last five numbers in roulette was a winning formula. What do you guys think of this sure-fire system ?



I've seen somewhere that suggested the 5 last numbers are very, very slightly more likely to turn up that random chance dictates, on certain wheels with certain other circumstances. But not enough that it would give you a 'winning formula'. I can't find the reference in 30 seconds of searching though.

But if you are going to gamble on roulette, it's as bad or as good as any other system I've heard about. Each bet has the same edge as any other, and single numbers pay out nicely if you do hit (though less often, so more likely to burn your buy in quickly as well).

(shrug)
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rawtuff
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October 16th, 2013 at 11:15:27 AM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

I can't find the reference in 30 seconds of searching though.



I think it's This one.

Not a sure-fire system for sure and even if it has it merits the conditions must be right(high chi-square and consistent rotor speed) for it to work(diminish the HE a bit,but no guaranties for overcoming it).
boymimbo
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October 16th, 2013 at 11:27:22 AM permalink
With roulette, it's always been my belief that it's better to bet on patterns than against them. Why, you ask?

If the roulette wheel is not biased, then the odds of those numbers reappearing are exactly the same as the odds of those number appearing, and you stand at your 5.26% HE. If the roulette wheel IS biased, then the odds of those number appearing are higher, and your HE is less than 5.26% if you rebet those numbers. If you bet against those numbers and the roulette wheel IS biased, the the odds of those numbers NOT appearing is lower, and your HE is more than 5.26%.

Now I don't believe for a second that today's roulette wheels are biased, but there's a community on this forum that believes otherwise.
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EvenBob
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October 16th, 2013 at 12:27:22 PM permalink
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In a roulette forum a guy called Houston claimed that betting on the last five numbers in roulette was a winning formula. What do you guys think of this sure-fire system ?



Silliness personified. How's that for brevity. Study the
nature of random outcomes for about 5min and you'll
come to the same conclusion.
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Keyser
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October 16th, 2013 at 8:09:13 PM permalink
There's some logic to it. This could slightly lower the house edge if the wheel is biased. It's definitely better than chasing cold numbers.
EvenBob
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October 16th, 2013 at 8:52:17 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

There's some logic to it. This could slightly lower the house edge if the wheel is biased. .



Yes, and if I was born in England I might be royalty.
Fat chance, same as finding the right biased wheel.
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kubikulann
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October 17th, 2013 at 6:35:57 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

With roulette, it's always been my belief that it's better to bet on patterns than against them. Why, you ask?

If the roulette wheel is not biased, then the odds of those numbers reappearing are exactly the same as the odds of those number appearing, and you stand at your 5.26% HE. If the roulette wheel IS biased, then the odds of those number appearing are higher.

Looks like Pascal's Wager to me. Yet, here, contrary to Pascal, you have nothing to lose by choosing those numbers, so why not?)
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scepticus
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October 18th, 2013 at 6:49:55 PM permalink
Quote: kubikulann

Looks like Pascal's Wager to me. Yet, here, contrary to Pascal, you have nothing to lose by choosing those numbers, so why not?)



Only your money it seems to me.

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