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drjohnny
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April 26th, 2013 at 12:48:28 AM permalink
Just came up with a fun Marty system that will let you play for hours on end with very little chance of getting wiped out...

1. $4,000 bankroll required
2. Flipping a coin determines your bet... player if heads and banker if tails
3. Don't risk any money until the coin makes 2 wrong predictions in a row
4. Use a $15-30-60-125-250-500-1000-2000 Marty and bet according to more coin flips

The only way you'll get wiped out is if your coin makes 10 wrong predictions in a row... the probability of that is roughly 1/1024.

This system will NOT overcome the house edge in the long run, but it should keep you entertained for a very long time before you get wiped out by a killer losing streak.

I've played about a dozen practice shoes and I'm averaging a little over $100 profit per shoe.

Maybe I'll have the guts to try this system in real life if it survives at least a hundred practice shoes... LOL
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April 26th, 2013 at 5:59:58 PM permalink
Th big problem I see here, is the risk vs reward is so limited. For instance, say you get to that 1000 bet. You total profit, comes out to $20. 7 hands, $1980 risked, and all to make $20? Just doesnt seem to make a whole lot of sense to me. I will agree that any win, no matter how small, is better than any loss, however it seems to me thats a long long way to go, to pick up $20
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April 26th, 2013 at 6:14:27 PM permalink
Quote: drjohnny

Just came up with a fun Marty system that will let you play for hours on end with very little chance of getting wiped out...


But the point is that you eventually will get wiped out. You'll get a bunch of small wins, but then when the inevitable big loss comes..........BAM! It will eat up your winnings and then some.
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April 26th, 2013 at 7:09:53 PM permalink
Please. Please drop step 3, it just makes you look stupid.

Otherwise, unless you're arguing you have an advantage and accept that over a billion trials you will lose. Cool, another Martingale.
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April 27th, 2013 at 6:08:19 AM permalink
Had a similar experience recently, copy and paste from another board;

Playing Bac with Bones and one young Oriental woman the other day. Pulled out my secret weapon: Delaware George. That's right, the quarter trick: Heads play Banker, Delaware play Player. Seven correct calls in a row. Eight out of nine. Bones went against the George several times. You know this charting thing said....Too bad, so sad. After the last of the nine tosses, a win, I colored up and gave the quarter to a very perplexed young woman.
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April 27th, 2013 at 7:52:20 AM permalink
Quote: ahiromu

Please. Please drop step 3, it just makes you look stupid.

Otherwise, unless you're arguing you have an advantage and accept that over a billion trials you will lose. Cool, another Martingale.



I have no problem with Step 3, DrJohnny is clearly intelligent enough to understand, mathematically, that the coin doesn't have anything to do with anything, so perhaps he just thinks that is fun. Hell, given that Baccarat is a negative expectation game, that method will cause him to bet during less hands...and the less hands bet is always the better!

Besides, he'll look superstitious as all Hell, which to my understanding, means he'll fit in with other Baccarat players quite nicely!
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April 27th, 2013 at 7:57:18 AM permalink
I agree. Step 3 is the best part of the system, since it causes the player to bet 0 frequently and reduces the expected loss.
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drjohnny
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May 14th, 2013 at 3:13:08 AM permalink
UPDATE:

I've been playing bacc for fun on the Wizard's main site and my coin has caused me to go bankrupt not once, but twice!
The coin that I was using is definitely cursed... LOL

I decided to ditch the coin and return to a more traditional 7 step Marty ($10-20-40-80-160-320-640) with random guessing every single hand and I have yet to get smashed after 10 shoes (I did get pushed to the 7th bet a few times but won all of them).

After 10 shoes, I managed to turn $4,000 into $7,800.

I managed to win 3471 units over 100 practice shoes using a 7 step Marty last year... If I can repeat this amazing feat again playing the Wizard's game, I'll definitely consider playing with $4K in the casino until I bust out...
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May 14th, 2013 at 6:13:55 AM permalink
Quote: drjohnny

Just came up with a fun Marty system that will let you play for hours on end with very little chance of getting wiped out...

1. $4,000 bankroll required
2. Flipping a coin determines your bet... player if heads and banker if tails
3. Don't risk any money until the coin makes 2 wrong predictions in a row
4. Use a $15-30-60-125-250-500-1000-2000 Marty and bet according to more coin flips

The only way you'll get wiped out is if your coin makes 10 wrong predictions in a row... the probability of that is roughly 1/1024.

This system will NOT overcome the house edge in the long run, but it should keep you entertained for a very long time before you get wiped out by a killer losing streak.

I've played about a dozen practice shoes and I'm averaging a little over $100 profit per shoe.

Maybe I'll have the guts to try this system in real life if it survives at least a hundred practice shoes... LOL



Brilliant.....yet another system that will force casinos to change rules. May suggest a twist to your powerful system. If, during the flip, the coin is dropped, you must bet on tie.
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May 14th, 2013 at 7:25:42 AM permalink
Quote: drjohnny


I managed to win 3471 units over 100 practice shoes using a 7 step Marty last year... If I can repeat this amazing feat again playing the Wizard's game, I'll definitely consider playing with $4K in the casino until I bust out...



If you really hate having a spare $4,000 that much, feel free just to ship it directly to me in the form of a money order, and I will put it to better use.
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January 8th, 2018 at 10:59:05 AM permalink
I hate to say this to rest of the people that don't believe in the coin flip system. It's Jan. 9th, 2018 and for over the past 2 and a 1/2 year I've lost to local casino exactly 6.2 million dollars. Just as was about to give up I saw in youtube someone was using this coin toss. I then downloaded an coin toss app for my iPhone and start using it. It really works. Withing the past month, because of using this toss coin system, I've claim back exatctly 1.1 million dollars since Dec 8th, 2017. I was using 5,000 dollars progressive bet. The highest I got was up to betting 20,000 dollars. It does work so please don't downplay this coin toss. I'm in the process of reclaiming all my losses.

Dr. James M. Shih
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January 8th, 2018 at 11:10:11 AM permalink
Quote: drjohnny

Just came up with a fun Marty system that will let you play for hours on end with very little chance of getting wiped out...

1. $4,000 bankroll required
2. Flipping a coin determines your bet... player if heads and banker if tails
3. Don't risk any money until the coin makes 2 wrong predictions in a row
4. Use a $15-30-60-125-250-500-1000-2000 Marty and bet according to more coin flips

The only way you'll get wiped out is if your coin makes 10 wrong predictions in a row... the probability of that is roughly 1/1024.



If you bet banker on your $1,000 bet and you win your commission wipes out your net profit and you're still in the hole.

HOW ABOUT WAITING FOR BANKER TO COME 8 TIMES IN A ROW AND THEN BET A 4 STAGE MARTY ON PLAYER

THERE'S NO WAY BANKER COULD COME 12 TIMES IN A ROW IS THERE?

wrong. it didn't do anything to improve our chances.

if only winning was that easy.

its just not fair that it isn't
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January 8th, 2018 at 11:46:58 AM permalink
Quote: docjames

I hate to say this to rest of the people that don't believe in the coin flip system. It's Jan. 9th, 2018 and for over the past 2 and a 1/2 year I've lost to local casino exactly 6.2 million dollars. Just as was about to give up I saw in youtube someone was using this coin toss. I then downloaded an coin toss app for my iPhone and start using it. It really works. Withing the past month, because of using this toss coin system, I've claim back exatctly 1.1 million dollars since Dec 8th, 2017. I was using 5,000 dollars progressive bet. The highest I got was up to betting 20,000 dollars. It does work so please don't downplay this coin toss. I'm in the process of reclaiming all my losses.

Dr. James M. Shih

Hi Dr James,
Way to go reviving a 4 1/2 year old thread.
I'm pleased to hear that you had 6.2 million dollars to throw away. Indeed I hope that you have another 6.2 million which you seem determined to throw after it.
I don't know what kind of doctor you are, but I'm really glad I'm not your patient. Funny how the OP was also a doctor.
Marty works until it doesn't. Can I recommend a thought experiment?
Do it for real, if you want and send me $25 dollars as a thank you when it works.

Imagine a 100 chamber revolver. I know there's usually 6, but this is a thought experiment.
Insert 1 live cartridge.
Spin the chamber while looking away.
Bet someone 620,000 dollars ( at even money ) that when you point it at your head and pull the trigger, that you will survive.
Point and shoot.

You are almost certain to win: 99% certain. Collect your $620,000 winnings.
Repeat the wager. Again, you are 99% certain to win. Easy money.
Just do the same another 8 times. You are almost certain to win.

Hey, even better and even quicker.
After the first wager, say 'double or quits'
Win the second time, you have $1.24 M
Win the 3rd time and you have $2.48M
Win the 4th time and you have $4.96M
Win the 5th time and you have $9.92M

Such easy money. Who can't win a 99 to 1 wager 5 times? What could possibly go wrong?
If you are a scaredy cat, point away from your head and pull the trigger until the bullet fires out, then insert a new bullet and start the process in earnest.
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January 8th, 2018 at 11:57:18 AM permalink
Where in the world is it January 9th at the moment, of the resurrection of this thread?
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January 8th, 2018 at 3:09:36 PM permalink
Doc is probably the proctologist, you're going to get digits if you listen to him.
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DHass22
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January 9th, 2018 at 8:25:02 PM permalink
Are you available to meet somewhere on the Vegas strip? (Jan 20th or 21st) Would love to burn an hour discussing 'systems'. Or anyone for that matter?
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