BedWetterBetter
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May 31st, 2020 at 1:28:22 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Does 25% capacity mean an exact number of patrons? That they will have a counter and when it reaches a pre-determined number they will stop allowing anyone to enter? And when one patron leaves another is allowed to enter?

I have been at casinos that seemed to be way over any reasonable capacity.

Before this pandemic, were there actually times someone did a 'capacity' check on a Vegas casino and did not allow patrons in?



https://www.foxwoods.com/about/welcomeback/

From what I read in the safety plan, there will be a counter at each entrance to keep track of people entering and exiting.

I think a bigger problem would be table games and people standing behind one another waiting for a spot. I remember when Sands in PA first started table games and people were lined up behind the ones sitting peaking over their shoulders and fighting over a seat once it opened up.
BedWetterBetter
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May 31st, 2020 at 2:34:03 PM permalink
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Curious what happens if a casino is at full capacity , with more customers waiting to get in, and a known whale shows up looking to play...



Apparently the tribes have opened up today to accommodate "select players", which I would take to mean whales & VIPs.

https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/faith-leaders-to-join-governor-at-covid-19-news-conference/2279124/
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May 31st, 2020 at 2:55:59 PM permalink
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Plus, I wonder if "25% capacity" means one-quarter of every available seat. In the old days when you walked through a casino, how many empty, unopened tables, closed pits, and vacant slot machines did you see? Sure, a busy casino was crowded, with people wandering around, and on a Saturday night business was brisk. Thewre are too many entrances and exits to keep an accurate count, only letting in one person when someone else leaves.



I suspect that's how some places are doing the count; most(all?) of the official/promotional footage from Morongo I saw showed alternating machines being locked or off while phone footage shows, at least on some banks, every machine on and being used.

When people called them out on it, the response was boilerplate, with "More than half of our 4,000 slots were either turned off or disabled in a locked status so that they could not be operated by guests." included... I was jokingly commenting on how Palace Station would have an easy time of that one, considering they have that enormous pile of machines in the parking lot, but it looks like other places may actually be taking a similar approach.

(Edit: Saw some more footage. Some banks appear to have alternating machines off. Most didn't look like it.)
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June 1st, 2020 at 7:34:40 AM permalink
From what I read about Mohegan, only the Sky Casino might be open. In that case they would have a better chance of controlling access at the door since there are fewer points of entry, but if that's the case then only one parking garage abuts that entrance. That would be a social distancing nightmare.

There's a long swath of stores between the two casinos ("Earth" and "Sky") and if they allow access to those stores then controlled access would be more difficult,

My local Home Depot allows entry at only one door. All other doors are exit only, so they can monitor total capacity precisely. Unless they lock down all the other garages and entrances, any attempt at limiting access at Mohegan to some arbitrary percentage would only work by opening just that percentage of seats - be they table games or slots. 50% available seats accompanied by 100% access? That'll work!
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June 3rd, 2020 at 7:27:38 PM permalink
Quote: racquet


There's a long swath of stores between the two casinos ("Earth" and "Sky") and if they allow access to those stores then controlled access would be more difficult



From the recent reports, they've blacked out and stanchioned off the closed parts of the casino and put signage everywhere to direct traffic to the open gaming areas.

So it seems there are no alternate ways in or out of the casino and you must stay on the guided path, which would make it plausible for them to track the amount of people at all times.

What I was surprised to hear is they are still serving alcohol. I understand that's probably their biggest selling product besides gaming, but the chance of contamination is extremely high given the waitresses won't be wearing gloves. I used to shudder when I would see people sitting at a table and eating a cup full of cocktail olives or cherries. Not only is it gross after the third one, but they've been sitting exposed in a plastic jar all day for who knows how long.
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June 5th, 2020 at 3:44:18 PM permalink
Just returned from a quick trip to Foxwoods. Was fairly busy, but not overcrowded. Parking was pretty bad, but most garage parking casinos are.

You basically walk in and proceed past the Thermal Sensor, no ID check(for me anyway) or facial recognition protocol. Most of the closed sections are partitioned off and once you enter the gaming floor there was a few cleaning people standing idle.

I proceeded to the table games, it was quite full and the table limits were no less $25 for Blackjack. I waited a few minutes and joined at open spot, then I was asked to clean my hands with a drop from their shampoo bottle sized sanitizer. The plexiglass is high enough that you can gather your chips or place bets freely. However, there were NO cleaning people coming around or wiping down seats after players left the spot.

I made a quick $200 and decided to leave after the player at 3rd base started making questionable plays such as hitting hard 13 against dealer 5 and not splitting aces vs 9. The morale was pretty tame, nobody yelling or cheering, just the usual moping and occasional "Unbelievable!" remarks when the dealer pulled 20's and 21's.

There was a long line for the cashier, mostly due to them spraying cleaner before and after taking chips. I managed to get a few snap shots of the casino floor while waiting in line.






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