7star4now
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June 17th, 2015 at 5:02:58 PM permalink
I actually agree with most of his political views, but at heart he'd admit he's a happy go lucky snake oil salesman/ carnival barker.

I know someone who worked closely with him & Trump valued his opinion & dissent, from what I've heard he's actually a loyal decent employer, & his public persona is just a show biz act -but he has zero interest in being a politician or governing - he just can't pass up the free PR juice offered by such a gullible media. He's bluffed running for President since the '80s , but much of the media is too young - or too ignorant -or too dishonest to point that out.

As for his claims of wealth, one writer analyzed his inherited assets about a decade ago, as well as those of Howard Hughes, & showed that each of their net worths would have been greater had they simply invested the fortunes left by their fathers in simple passbook savings accts with compound interest.

My main problem with him is that he is a developer deal maker who doesn't have a track record of running a day to day business, & knows just enuf to get himself in deep doo doo with risk taking tactics that don't translate to a running on ongoing operation. I regard him as one of the original non-gaming , bandwagon opportunists- whose penchant for over -leveraging assets started the dominoes falling in AC (note I DO enjoy his value as an "entertainer" & watching him hold these crooked politicians feet to the fire):

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Happy recap of The Donald's "good old days" in AC:

"How bad was his time in AC? Consider that Trump found himself in bankruptcy court four times due to his casinos over the years...

1. A bad hair day?
"It started in 1991 when Donald Trump's Trump Taj Mahal found itself in bankruptcy court. The restructuring saw bondholders given 49% of the casino."

2.A severe "haircut"?
"In 1992, it was the Trump Plaza's turn with Chapter 11 restructuring as the casino was sitting on $550 million of debt. Donald Trump once again filed for bankruptcy, and in the process became the butt of many jokes as the only man who could bankrupt a casino --remember this was the 1990's and casino bankruptcies were quite rare. Trump also gave up 49% ownership in the Trump Plaza during the restructuring."...

3. "Ya fired":
"In 2004, the parent company filed for bankruptcy protection again ... and Donald Trump saw his ownership share in the company reduced to 25% along with his title of CEO"

4."Ya fired -AGAIN":
"the company found itself back in bankruptcy court in 2009 ....Trump saw his ownership stake reduced to just 10% and resigned as Chairman of the Board after a heated fight with other owners "....

A Happy ending? ..."give me my damn name back or I'll Tweet really mean things....waaaaahhh":
"Trump currently possesses just a 5% stake in the company that bears his name. No, Donald Trump didn't have a casino close on his watch, but at one point he controlled 30% of the AC casino market, and lost it all and control of his own name on the side of the properties vanish (although more recently he did try to sue to have his name removed)."

http://www.pokerupdate.com/news/business-and-finance/donald-trump-wants-to-save-ac-his-track-record-says-otherwise/
dave12038457
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June 18th, 2015 at 9:28:19 AM permalink
If one is going to try and place blame for a week economy and even weaker recovery from a bad recession.
Lets take a look at just "who" and "what" led us down the path to near financial ruin shall we?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebWJ892h5dA
RaleighCraps
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June 18th, 2015 at 3:26:13 PM permalink
Personally, if a person has declared bankruptcy, and caused losses to others that have never been repaid, then that person is unfit for POTUS.

This whole model of start a business, fail, declare bankruptcy, get out of paying your debts, make the business viable, reap great rewards, live a good life, is TOTAL BS.

Sort of like, no wait, EXACTLY like, bailing out bankers who made really bad bets and lost, got bailed out, recovered, and took home millions in salary during the whole thing.
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Gabes22
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June 18th, 2015 at 3:46:24 PM permalink
Quote: RaleighCraps

Personally, if a person has declared bankruptcy, and caused losses to others that have never been repaid, then that person is unfit for POTUS.

This whole model of start a business, fail, declare bankruptcy, get out of paying your debts, make the business viable, reap great rewards, live a good life, is TOTAL BS.

Sort of like, no wait, EXACTLY like, bailing out bankers who made really bad bets and lost, got bailed out, recovered, and took home millions in salary during the whole thing.


You must be joking. There is not one Congressman, Senator, Governor or Mayor out there that sticks tho their budgets. Bankrupting the city of Cleveland as mayor didn't stop Dennis Kucinic from becoming a Congressman and running for President on more than one occasion. Personally, the hoopla that is being given to all these political candidate 17 months ahead of the election is laughable. By the time the first few primaries are over the field will have whittled itself down to 2-3.
A flute with no holes is not a flute, a donut with no holes is a danish
7star4now
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June 18th, 2015 at 5:01:19 PM permalink
Summary of All the times Donald Trump has pretended to run for president

http://mashable.com/2015/06/16/donald-trump-president-fake/
7star4now
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June 18th, 2015 at 7:10:55 PM permalink
Trump fans or foes- easy way to make an extra 50 bucks

In the age of "sophisticated" mass & internet media- "The Donald" makes PT Barnum's exploits look like amateur hour

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/donald-trump-campaign-offered-actors-803161
RaleighCraps
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June 18th, 2015 at 7:16:58 PM permalink
Quote: Gabes22

You must be joking. There is not one Congressman, Senator, Governor or Mayor out there that sticks tho their budgets. Bankrupting the city of Cleveland as mayor didn't stop Dennis Kucinic from becoming a Congressman and running for President on more than one occasion. Personally, the hoopla that is being given to all these political candidate 17 months ahead of the election is laughable. By the time the first few primaries are over the field will have whittled itself down to 2-3.



Not joking. I wouldn't vote for any of those wanna be washouts, crooks, thieves, mismanagement specialists either. But I won't turn this Trump thread into a political derail, so I have made my last non Trump comment.
Always borrow money from a pessimist; They don't expect to get paid back ! Be yourself and speak your thoughts. Those who matter won't mind, and those that mind, don't matter!
djatc
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June 18th, 2015 at 7:55:24 PM permalink
Wonder what the line is for trump being president and if i can lay the odds
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Gandler
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June 19th, 2015 at 1:25:27 AM permalink
Many politicians have private sector failures. Trump also has many successes.

But in either case it does not necessarily mean one way or the other how great they will be. Some great politicians had abolsulty pathetic lives in the privates sector and vice-versa.

I just finished watching Trump's speech announcing his run. I was actually pretty impressed, I agreed with most of his points, I am not saying I support him, but I actually agreed with him a lot more than I though I would, he had the courage to bring up a lot of controversial issues that other people won't touch (debatabley that is because he has no plans to run a serious campaign and does not care about winning, but either way I was impressed).
MrsHeartRN
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June 19th, 2015 at 3:40:11 AM permalink
I personally think Trump would be good in a supportive, consultative, appointed position or even VP. If he could have the input on financial and business matters and not be just a puppet for the President. I don't think his ego would allow that though, with him it's the top or nothing at all. He does have some good ideas and visions and a proven track record of success in many areas of business, along with some failures which is ok with me. Sometimes you learn more from your mistakes than you do from your successes. If he wasn't so irritating to a lot of people with that pompous attitude he could go far in politics.
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