Atlantic City Comps
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So this is a really noob question, but I am going to Atlantic City in a few weeks with my friends and some of my family. We were initially thinking about doing a day trip, but now we might want to stay for a night.
I don't know the slightest thing about comps though. I will want to go with a bankroll of around $2000-3000, and playing $10 blackjack with conservative 1:5 bet spread on Hi-Lo count, most likely staying on the boardwalk. It'll be my first time counting cards but that's not really the topic at hand, I'm wondering what my chances are of getting a room for a night will be, and how to go about getting comps.
I know that since I live a few hours from AC, the easiest way to get a club card will be to sign up online, and I'm wondering which casinos are probably the best to sign up. I know that Tropicana and Resorts will probably have the most abundant $10 blackjack tables on the weekends, and Taj is decent as well.
I've heard the good and the bad about CET, mostly bad, although since I've never asked for comps before, I'm not sure exactly why.
Also, what is the method for getting the comps when you enter the casino? For table games, I know I probably will have to get a pit boss' attention, but what about machines?
Thanks all, sorry if this is vague since I really don't know what I'm doing, I'll give more specific details if it helps.
After you finish playing, you can go to one of the kiosks and check your account for the comp dollars you earned or any additional slot play you may have earned.
As far as getting a room the same night, I don't think you are going to be too successful. You will probably get mailers in a few weeks for rooms and offers.
A weekday is a different story, comps are pretty loose for rooms during the week.
Some advice for first timers. Get a card everywhere you go and ask for new player promo's. They change often, but right now for example, the Taj is giving $100 in free stuff for new players. $50 in free slot play, and a $50 food credit. Just for signing up. If you go back in after 30 days I believe they give you another $100 worth. But as I said ask at the players card desk as the promo's change often. Pretty much every casino in town should have some promo. If you are going with friends and family and none of you has had a card before it could really add up.
Sometimes when my wife is playing slots and notices the person next to her isn't playing with a card, she asks if the person playing would mind using one of her cards. Most people say yes.
Quote: FatGeezusOne way to get get a lot of comps fast is to ask for two players cards. The same account, not two different accounts. Give one card to a friend or spouse and have them use the card.
Sometimes when my wife is playing slots and notices the person next to her isn't playing with a card, she asks if the person playing would mind using one of her cards. Most people say yes.
You're bringing back such fond memories for me.
Quote: vendman1but right now for example, the Taj is giving $100 in free stuff for new players. $50 in free slot play, and a $50 food credit. Just for signing up. If you go back in after 30 days I believe they give you another $100 worth. But as I said ask at the players card desk as the promo's change often. Pretty much every casino in town should have some promo. If you are going with friends and family and none of you has had a card before it could really add up.
Always read the fine print, this was almost another one of those "You can't Lose" PR nightmares, just on a much smaller level.
I don't know if they are currently running it, as I can't find it on their site.
But I remember it was something like:
Earn 20 tier points and receive $25 slot dollars with $25 comp dollars for that day, earn another 20 tier points and get another $25 slot and $25 comp to be added on your NEXT visit. Then on your next visit, do this again to get the remainder of the $100 slot and comp dollars.
So naturally there was a line of people at Trump one complaining, "I signed up for a card, where is my $100??!?!?" Only to be told, go earn 20 tier points and THEN you will get $25 slot. To which they went back to the machine, earned 20 tier and would then complain "You said $100, why am I only getting 25!!?"
Also, another clever omission was this could apply to Inactive card members (who were inactive for 3 months). What they don't tell you is that, sliding your card thru a kiosk counts as activity and nullifies this. Which I did 84 days before bringing my father there to attempt to get the Inactive member bonus!
Quote: FatGeezus
Sometimes when my wife is playing slots and notices the person next to her isn't playing with a card, she asks if the person playing would mind using one of her cards. Most people say yes.
But then the machine won't pay out see!!?! Because if it knows who you are, they can rig the slot to NOT pay out and you will lose faster!!!!!??!
This was a legit response I got from someone playing a WOF $1 machine. I even advised them to get a card, why let all those points go to waste. And they said, "Nah, then I will never win and if I do, I'll have to pay more taxes!"
Just another product of AC University!!
Quote: BedWetterBetterAlways read the fine print, this was almost another one of those "You can't Lose" PR nightmares, just on a much smaller level.
I don't know if they are currently running it, as I can't find it on their site.
But I remember it was something like:
Earn 20 tier points and receive $25 slot dollars with $25 comp dollars for that day, earn another 20 tier points and get another $25 slot and $25 comp to be added on your NEXT visit. Then on your next visit, do this again to get the remainder of the $100 slot and comp dollars.
So naturally there was a line of people at Trump one complaining, "I signed up for a card, where is my $100??!?!?" Only to be told, go earn 20 tier points and THEN you will get $25 slot. To which they went back to the machine, earned 20 tier and would then complain "You said $100, why am I only getting 25!!?"
Also, another clever omission was this could apply to Inactive card members (who were inactive for 3 months). What they don't tell you is that, sliding your card thru a kiosk counts as activity and nullifies this. Which I did 84 days before bringing my father there to attempt to get the Inactive member bonus!
Well you are right they change it all the time. But I was there with a buddy in early April and he signed up for a new card, got $50 free play right away, and a $50 food comp right away. There was another $100 worth you could earn. By earning the 20 tier points, coming back in a week, blah blah blah. But at the desk, the girl that signed him up, explained it in excruciating detail. So if people didn't understand it...I'd say that was on them. I'll be the first to admit that casino offers are often misleading or confusing, or ridiculously hard to redeem...often intentionally. But this one worked for my friend. It's summer now though so maybe they pulled it back. There is almost always something for new members though. That's all I was trying to tell the OP just to check what's avail.
HOWEVER, I have good news. You can easily get a same night room comped weekend- even a nice fiore suite with pano views at the borgata spreading 1-4 from $200-800. This is true- I played rated there last week spreading 1-4,5 HL and had ppl falling over backwards to give me rfb and a players card at every property (I only played rated for comps at borgata, unrated everywhere else). Actually I would venture to say you might be able to get a same night weekend room playing $50 mins on the weekend at dingier places like trump. Oops, wait, then my ass got flyered at trump playing unrated and it all went downhill from there.
Quote: MaxPenSomeone is making this board virtually worthless. We need a BS Meter.
I have had to replace several BS meters that have burned out from being overworked. :-)
I can, however, say that the freezing of comps in AC is something that I've been quite familiar with over the years. I'm not sure what the definition of freezing is but I'm talking wiped out. They have ways of making you feel unwelcome that would make a back off look tame.
I might also add to the OP that he/she should maybe consider contacting a host. Lots of hosts will give you a break for your first stay and actually comp rfb to kind of gauge your play simply if you ask. Also in AC you should consider the comp matching system. Just say you have the highest card- diamond or black from another property and ask to have that card matched. The host may "take a chance" on you and give you rfb. I suggest this based on my own experience where these comp hustling techniques worked and while it may be bs to you, I think it constitutes a good answer to the OP instead of just telling him he can't get it PERIOD.
To earn a comped room on a weekend in the summer requires some major play. The casino can sell these rooms for $300+ per night.
If you play it has to be for a length of time and high enough wager that statistically, you will lose a lot more then that $300.
If you were going to play for comps ask yourself this... is it worth it to potentially lose say $1500 for a $300 room? I don't think it is.
Quote: dave12038457Don't play for comps! You will lose just about every time! Very few can even get 20% of their losses back in the form of comps.
To earn a comped room on a weekend in the summer requires some major play. The casino can sell these rooms for $300+ per night.
If you play it has to be for a length of time and high enough wager that statistically, you will lose a lot more then that $300.
If you were going to play for comps ask yourself this... is it worth it to potentially lose say $1500 for a $300 room? I don't think it is.
"Don't play for comps!" I never liked this phase, because I think it is incomplete. I think it needs a comma and "but if your playing make sure you get comps." I know for a few people on this board they have reasons for not getting comps, but for the majority you are just leaving money behind.
You are right "but if your playing make sure you get comps."
Look out for the special promotion offers that come up from time to time in different casinos. Then go for it.
Some are good or very good, others are just not worth it.
My Comps is on the cruise ship and I happen to love cruising.
Here we all play baccarat and for the $100 table (not USD) the player get to squeeze card and insurance is offered.
So effectively the speed of play is down to about 20 to 30 rounds per hour. With points awarded based on table minimum and baccarat HE of 1.35% I am paying about $5 per point. With 10 points I get I get 1 free cruising night. So it cost me only about $50 per night which is well worth it for me.
Quote: dave12038457Don't play for comps!
Thanks but I'm not playing for comps. I'm playing for fun while counting cards and getting comps on the side. For how much I've played I've missed a decent amount of money already by not getting comps.
Quote: ArtooDetooHey all,
So this is a really noob question, but I am going to Atlantic City in a few weeks with my friends and some of my family. We were initially thinking about doing a day trip, but now we might want to stay for a night.
I don't know the slightest thing about comps though. I will want to go with a bankroll of around $2000-3000, and playing $10 blackjack with conservative 1:5 bet spread on Hi-Lo count, most likely staying on the boardwalk. It'll be my first time counting cards but that's not really the topic at hand, I'm wondering what my chances are of getting a room for a night will be, and how to go about getting comps.
I know that since I live a few hours from AC, the easiest way to get a club card will be to sign up online, and I'm wondering which casinos are probably the best to sign up. I know that Tropicana and Resorts will probably have the most abundant $10 blackjack tables on the weekends, and Taj is decent as well.
I've heard the good and the bad about CET, mostly bad, although since I've never asked for comps before, I'm not sure exactly why.
Also, what is the method for getting the comps when you enter the casino? For table games, I know I probably will have to get a pit boss' attention, but what about machines?
Thanks all, sorry if this is vague since I really don't know what I'm doing, I'll give more specific details if it helps.
Quote: ArtooDetooThanks but I'm not playing for comps. I'm playing for fun while counting cards and getting comps on the side. For how much I've played I've missed a decent amount of money already by not getting comps.
Thanks but I'm not playing for comps.
and how to go about getting comps
Which ArtooDetoo are you
Quote: dave12038457Some A.C. properties are known as of late to comp better then others. Resorts and Taj come to mind. Perhaps others will chime in shortly with their experiences.
Problem with Resorts is, if you are not betting big, then they don't comp well.
Can't speak on the slot play, as I only played a $5 slot once and it hit for 100 credits, and I have not played slots there since.
But table play generally hasn't been to kind to me.
I did have my buddy use my card for his play (he was playing green chips at a 3 card poker table) and after 3 hours he accumulated $48 comp dollars. But it was 2 AM by the time he finished and most of the food shops were closed.
The dunkin donuts they had there was claiming they can't take comps, so the food options were limited at best.
I think when people say you shouldn't pay for comps, they are saying, you shouldn't play just to earn comps, because its not worth doing. The comps rarely make up for what you give up.Quote: zoobrew"Don't play for comps!" I never liked this phase, because I think it is incomplete. I think it needs a comma and "but if your playing make sure you get comps." I know for a few people on this board they have reasons for not getting comps, but for the majority you are just leaving money behind.
We all know the stories where a guy loses thousands of dollars just to get a room that would've cost him $150.
Obviously there are situations where playing for comps is worthwhile.
Never chase comps but I have booked a trip when the gifts are something I wanted. I also try and play where the comps are more easily accrued or the comp system is clearly outlined and where the comps somewhat reflect my play. If you're going to play anyway why not where you "feel" you're getting the biggest bang for your buck... (or "bennies")
At Trop you can't even take a hotel room or dinner or shopping off your own accrued points before they rescind the offers. If you gambled high on a weds night and decided to take your free play Thursday before catching your bus, gambling only a fraction of what you normally play -- grounds for your card to be locked and your offers rescinded.
So for Tropicana, be warned.
Quote: darkozSome vary more than others. Taj is second worst but by far
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The really bad thing about Taj is you have to WAIT for them to log you out, then the points have to be calculated by the central server for Table rated play and THEN you can check the Kiosk to see if you earned the necessary tier points for the promotion. This can take up to 30 mins if they are busy and not paying attention to who is sitting where at the tables.
Sometimes you will finish playing just before the cut off time, but since it took them so long to calculate or register the points, you miss the promotion cut off time.
I once earned the points by 8:40 pm, had them manually log me out, got to a Unoccupied Kiosk by 8:55 and found out they had "ended" the promotion already. So the times on the promotion schedule are also misleading as you need to print out your ticket well in advance.
All these facts are just part of the "now you know" mentality that their marketing dept. has for loyal patrons!!
