Bass Pro Shop in A.C.will have an indoor pistol range

This should be interesting.

Now the hoods from back Maryland will have a place to practice.
Seriously though I wonder how they will control who does go there to practice. Will they have something in place to make sure you legally own the gun you bring to their range?

Thugs just practice in the streets. They don't need no stinkin gun range................

I don't know how they do the logistics, but I imagine it won't be any different in AC versus all their other locations with indoor ranges

Maybe NJ has different gun laws than they do here in Texas. But I don't see this as being any different than the indoor range close to me or the one in Plano where my son and I shoot. I don't see any issue.

Quote: texasplumr

Maybe NJ has different gun laws than they do here in Texas. But I don't see this as being any different than the indoor range close to me or the one in Plano where my son and I shoot. I don't see any issue.

You might find the gun laws of the PRNJ to be just a bit different than the Republic of Texas.

Quote: texasplumr

Maybe NJ has different gun laws than they do here in Texas.

I dropped my phone, chocolate milk came out my nose, and I died. Twice.

Funniest joke I've heard all year XD

On topic, I don't see the problem. Plenty of places have indoor ranges and are victim of the typical accidents. That is, very few. "Because AC" I can't really see applying, because the jackwagons who tote illegally aren't the ones honing their craft at the range.

I have no idea what policies are in place to verify licensing before using the range. Being Jersey, I assumed everyone who has a gun is a felon, at best. Maybe it's all just an elaborate sting?

When the Bass Pro Shop opens up Sayreville, NJ why would anyone drive from New York to see the AC store. The shop is a welcome addition to AC but it is not unique to the area as there is also one in Harrisburg, Pa and Hanover, MD. I also guarantee the one Sayreville is going to be a much bigger attraction than the one in AC. Look at the description below.

The planned Bass Pro Shops location at Luxury Point will be the size of five football fields with expansive aquariums, waterfalls and museum quality fish and wildlife dioramas onsite along with a huge selection of outdoor gear.

After doing more research the Luxury Point project is taking longer than expected. It is being built over a reclaimed toxic landfill. Bass Pro has the store on their website like it is under construction.
AC will have no competition for quite a while.

Water park, shooting range, what's next? How about safari? Lions running through the casino floors. I thought AC was a shooting range already.

Went to check it out today. A lot of laid off casino workers busting a move selling shoes and the like for 10 bucks an hour. Most won't last a week. I'm sure they miss their cushy casino jobs. For day 2 of grand opening it was pretty dead. Nice store if you're into shopping.

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Being Jersey, I assumed everyone who has a gun is a felon, at best. Maybe it's all just an elaborate sting?

Sounds more likely to me. What visitor brings a pistol to NJ, then takes it to a range where they may be identified as having an "illegal" gun? I used to be that moron, but consideration of a felony charge and a visit to the Extended Stay Graybar in Carteret or Rahway brought me to my senses. I don't understand who they hope to attract by having the indoor range in Atlantic City. I can't imagine that the cash flow of the range will cover the added liability costs. Maybe they'll eventually turn it into more retail floor space.

I have visited and held membership in more then one pistol range in The Republic of New Jermany,
1. You have to show a valid drivers license to shoot.
2. You have to show a valid firearms id card to purchase ammunition anywhere in N.J.

Quote: dave12038457

I have visited and held membership in more then one pistol range in The Republic of New Jermany.

As a resident?

Quote: dave12038457

I have visited and held membership in more then one pistol range in The Republic of New Jermany,
1. You have to show a valid drivers license to shoot.
2. You have to show a valid firearms id card to purchase ammunition anywhere in N.J.

I need to get out more, I guess. I have no idea what a firearms ID card is. Here, you got to Walmart or Academy, fill your cart with ammo and go to the check out and pay. Actually, Walmart still has the two to a customer limit of any certain caliber. Supposedly there is still a shortage of ammo. But they didn't jack up their prices like everybody else.

Never shown ID at any range. You do have to show them everything that you're going to shoot. Unloaded, chamber open.

My son has a Desert Eagle that's a lot of fun. When you fire that the whole place goes silent. Slowly, people creep down to see what it is we are shooting. That .44 Mag is very loud. Heavy too. But it has no recoil, so even my 18 year old 98 pound Granddaughter can shoot it a few times. It's really too heavy for a small person.

Quote: texasplumr

I need to get out more, I guess. I have no idea what a firearms ID card is. Here, you got to Walmart or Academy, fill your cart with ammo and go to the check out and pay.

I'm not an expert, but I try my best...

NJ has severely f#$%ed gun laws. You are protected by FOPA for transport through the state, but you must indeed transport through the state, with gun and ammo separate and locked from the passenger compartment. Trunk is best. Under rear seat in a locked case if you have no trunk is acceptable. Put the weapon or your ammo in the glove box or console and you will go to jail. If you stop at a hotel overnight, that's unlawful possession and you will go to jail. If your properly checked weapon is at the airline, and your flight gets canceled, and you retake possession of your lawfully checked weapon, that's unlawful possession and you will go to jail.

FOPA allows you to take a legally owned weapon to a number of "safe zones", such as to a gunsmith for repair or to an authorized competition. I do not know whether Bass Pro is considered one of these safe zones.

NJ has reciprocity with no one. No other licenses in any of the remaining 49 states are valid in NJ. Unless you have a New Jersey carry permit, do not carry into New Jersey. You Have a Friend in Pennsylvania, go shoot with them.

Quote: Face

I'm not an expert, but I try my best...

NJ has severely f#$%ed gun laws. You are protected by FOPA for transport through the state, but you must indeed transport through the state, with gun and ammo separate and locked from the passenger compartment. Trunk is best. Under rear seat in a locked case if you have no trunk is acceptable. Put the weapon or your ammo in the glove box or console and you will go to jail. If you stop at a hotel overnight, that's unlawful possession and you will go to jail. If your properly checked weapon is at the airline, and your flight gets canceled, and you retake possession of your lawfully checked weapon, that's unlawful possession and you will go to jail.

FOPA allows you to take a legally owned weapon to a number of "safe zones", such as to a gunsmith for repair or to an authorized competition. I do not know whether Bass Pro is considered one of these safe zones.

NJ has reciprocity with no one. No other licenses in any of the remaining 49 states are valid in NJ. Unless you have a New Jersey carry permit, do not carry into New Jersey. You Have a Friend in Pennsylvania, go shoot with them.

Wow! Just, wow!

Quote: texasplumr

Wow! Just, wow!

Exactly. So no, no you do not need to get out more often. Stay right where you are, for the love of Jeff Cooper. And if you must go to Vermont or Maine, fly non-stop. You might can miss NJ. You can't miss NY, and we're just as bad if not worse.

Yes as a resident. Just a little more info on N.J. gun laws.
The following characteristics render a firearm illegal in N.J.

A. semi-automatic rifle that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of the following:




1.a folding or telescoping stock;
2.a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
3.a bayonet mount;
4.a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and
5.a grenade launcher;



B. a semi-automatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of the following:



1.an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;
2.a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;
3.a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;
4.manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and
5.a semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm; and,

C. a semi-automatic shotgun that has at least 2 of the following:



1.a folding or telescoping stock;
2.a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
3.a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and
4.an ability to accept a detachable magazine.
There also are restrictions pertaining to hollow point ammunition.


N.J.S.A 2C:39-3f(1) limits the possession of hollow nose ammunition. However, there is a general exception that allows for the purchase of this ammunition but restricts the possession of it to specified locations. This exception provides that:


(2) Nothing is sub section f (1) shall be construed to prevent a person from keeping such ammunition at his dwelling, premises or other land owned or possessed by him, or from carrying such ammunition from the place of purchase to said dwelling or land . . . [N.J.S.A 26:39-3g (2)].

Thus a person may purchase this ammunition and keep it within the confines of his property. Sub section f (1) further exempts from the prohibited possession of hollow nose ammunition "persons engaged in activities pursuant to N.J.S.A 2C:39-6f. . . ."
N.J.S.A 26:39-3f. (1).

Activities contained in N.J.S.A 26:39-6f. can be broken down as follows:
1.A member of a rifle or pistol club organized under rules of the National Board for the Promotion of Rifle Practice and which filed its charter with the State Police;
2.A person engaged in hunting or target practice with a firearm legal for hunting in this State;
3.A person going directly to a target range, and;
4.A person going directly to an authorized place for "practice, match, target, trap or skeet shooting exhibitions."


As with other ammunition and firearms, a sportsman would have to comply with the provisions of N.J.S.A 2C:39-6f and g when transporting hollow nose ammunition to a target range. The ammunition should be stored in a closed and fastened container or locked in the trunk of the motor vehicle in which it is being transported. The course of travel should be as direct as possible when going to and leaving from the target range with "only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances." N.J.S.A 2C:39-6g.

If the sportsman's club member plans to hunt with a rifle and use hollow nose ammunition in a state where this is permitted, he must comply with the provisions of U.S.C.A. 926A and N.J.S.A 2C:39-6(f) and (6)(g), which is consistent with the federal law, in transporting the firearm and ammunition. The firearm should be unloaded and neither the firearm nor the ammunition should be readily accessible from the passenger compartment. If the vehicle does not have a trunk, the firearm and the ammunition should be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or the console. 18 U.S.C.A. 926A.

In addition, the sportsman should have a valid hunting license in his possession from the state in which he plans to hunt and should be familiar with that state's gun laws. N.J.S.A 2C:39-6(f)(2) requires a person hunting in this State to have a valid hunting license in his possession while traveling to or from the hunting area. Hunting with hollow nose ammunition is permitted in New Jersey. In the case of a New Jersey resident traveling to another state to hunt, it logically would follow that the hunting license would be from the state where the hunter is going. Although the federal statute does not require possession of a hunting license, it does require that the person transporting the firearm be going to a state where possession of that object is lawful. A valid hunting license from that state effectively supplies the proof.

These conditions for use and transport of hollow nose ammunition are consistent with the legislative intent to restrict the use of such ammunition to a limited number of people. It is well established that in construing a statute exceptions are to be "strictly but reasonably construed, consistent with the manifest reason and purpose of the law." Service Armament Co. v. Hyland, 70 N.J. 550, 558-559 (1976). The State Supreme Court has "characterized the Gun Control Law as 'highly purposed and conscientiously designed toward preventing criminal and other unfit elements from acquiring firearms while enabling the fit elements of society to obtain them with minimal burdens.'" Id. at 559.
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Rifle magazines are limited to 15 round capacity. Handguns 10

So, I guess y'all are saying folks in NJ may not have this:

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It appears you need a permit before you can shoot yourself in NJ.

They could install slot machines and placed blackjack tables on that range. Imagine, you hit a jackpot, then you grab AK- 47 and start firing at the target or hit a blackjack, pullout a revolver and Fire into roof above you, as they do in Westerns. They might even rename it, Shoot and gamble.

No we can't. N.J. has no class 3 licenses. Fully automatic guns are taboo.
However .50 Cal. are completely legal provided they adhere to all other NJ laws regarding rifles. Threaded muzzles, pistol grips etc.
NJ permitting is a lengthy process. By law it is supposed to take no more then 30 days. But few challenge their local police dept. and after finger printing, checking personal references and mental health checks it can take 3-4 months.
BB and airguns are considered firearms in NJ.
To legally purchase posses a bb/airgun pistol one must have a NJ handgun permit.
Flareguns are also considered firearms in NJ.

Quote: texasplumr

I need to get out more.

That may be true, but I don't think the PRNJ is a place you should take your pistol, if you go.

That probably is some very sound advice.

Quote: dave12038457

...<SNIP>...

BB and airguns are considered firearms in NJ.
To legally purchase posses a bb/airgun pistol one must have a NJ handgun permit.

...<SNIP>...

Yikes, and egads.

Never mind the proudly retired Marine next door with the impressive collection of serious North Korean weaponry. I think there's a polite & earnest little runny nose lad down the road from me who would become a crime wave if his folks relocated.*

*Not to comment on the wisdom of this one way or t'other; maybe toughening up in a cell block with Bubba & Leroy would be okay for the development of the friendly little crow plinking kid. At least some nervous crows might think so.

Just home from a spur of the moment long weekend in AC and we checked out the Bass Pro Shop yesterday. The shooting range is on the second level and my wife and I had a nice chat with the young woman who was in charge at the time. The question she gets over and over is about shooting a machine gun. People don't understand that this is Jersey not Vegas.

For those unaware, no firearms are rented. It's pistols only, shooters must have a New Jersey firearms card and the pistol must be owned by them. Many prospective shooters are leaving disappointed and workers are unsure how word spread that anyone could shoot.

It's a nice shop with smiling, helpful workers. I know, it hasn't been a week yet.

In reading through this thread, it's one of the very few times I'm glad I live in NJ.