Intheknow
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January 11th, 2015 at 6:33:13 PM permalink
How many blocks long is atlantic city? 48-50?
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January 11th, 2015 at 10:52:43 PM permalink
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How many blocks long is atlantic city? 48-50?



I know its under 4 miles long. (closer to 3 miles length I believe). So 50ish blocks sounds (and feels) about right. At least of Atlantic Ave, since that is the longest street that goes the whole length of AC (as well as Absecon Island).

Its actually a really small "city". I read an article once saying "its a town playing dress up as a big city" and I thought that was a really good summary.
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January 12th, 2015 at 5:59:26 AM permalink
Lets call it 50 blocks for ease of math. As for the question "The future of Atlantic City". I'm not sure but it sure is going to cost a ton of money.

In the past 4 years the CRDA has spent 1,000,000,000 on the tourism zone. Add to that a City that has collected over $1,000,000,000 in the past four years. That's 2 billion dollars for the math challenged readers.

2 billion divided by 50 blocks is $40,000,000 per block in the past four years.

I live in Atlantic City and I haven't seen $400.00 worth of improvements on my block. Where's the money going? We need to see tangible improvements.

There's a lot of talk, a lot of plans, a lot of dreams yet the City still wallows in garbage.

It is downright depressing. The most under-utilized City in the world.
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January 12th, 2015 at 6:01:03 AM permalink
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AC will rise to new glory again one day. Like the phoenix it will rise up out of the ashes with a new skin and a new sun.

AC needs to be envisioned a future city, a hub of technology, gaming, education, and innovation. It can and will be a city that gets restructured.

As others have pointed out there are many cities that rise from far worst scenarios. AC may never again be known solely as a gaming city, but that's not a bad thing.

With the tough crackdown on crime, elimination of gangs, and modernization of much infrastructure, the city will thrive once again.



Well that's the most optimistic view of AC I've heard in a long time. I hope you're right but see several major hurdles.

1. The local politicians are so corrupt/incompetent that getting anything meaningful done in terms of change seems really unlikely.

2. The crime problem in AC, is really an economic problem. There is very little in AC, outside of the casinos. No viable business opporunities, the tax base is crap and most of the cities housing is low income blight. If it was one or two bad areas that would be one thing..it could be redeveloped to help the area. But MOST OF AC, needs a wrecking ball, I just don't see where the money would come from. Or who would be interested in redevelopment.

3. The Beach/boardwalk in AC is the worst in terms of quality of any beach I've been to at the Jersey Shore. People interested in going down the shore, just don't go to AC. That's a long held perception. Going to be tough to change. So what should be AC's biggest asset (a beach and boardwalk) not only doesn't help them much, it may actually hurt them. As others have pointed out the casinos doing the best are the ones in the Marina area not the boardwalk side.

I hope for an AC rebirth, I really do. But I don't think we are quite at the bottom yet.
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January 16th, 2015 at 5:34:14 AM permalink
Atlantic City Mayor:" At Least We're Not Detroit" (will he soon envy Detroit?)

"At least we're not the Titanic"- Captain of Costa Concordia, the Italian cruise ship that sank off the coast of Italy in January 2012

I don't know, at least Detroit has some tax base left for those who stayed (less than 1/2 of the former population) & stopped taking on water.

AC is trying to plug billion $ gaming revenue holes with "feel good" lame free promotions.

Read more: http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Atlantic-City-Mayor-At-Least-Were-Not-Detroit-288777611.html#ixzz3OzUEhFIZ
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January 16th, 2015 at 5:54:30 AM permalink
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In the past 4 years the CRDA has spent 1,000,000,000 on the tourism zone. Add to that a City that has collected over $1,000,000,000 in the past four years. That's 2 billion dollars for the math challenged readers.



Sources? Especially the for the city number. That's too high...might you have an extra 0 in there?
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January 16th, 2015 at 6:31:36 AM permalink
Municipal taxes are $240,000,000/year. School taxes are $156,000,000/year ($25,000/student). I actually understated city number. My numbers here aren't exact but they are close enough.
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January 16th, 2015 at 6:48:43 AM permalink
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Municipal taxes are $240,000,000/year. School taxes are $156,000,000/year ($25,000/student). I actually understated city number. My numbers here aren't exact but they are close enough.




Atlantic -Atlantic City Tot spend $183,301,283 enrollment 7,139 per student $25,676

http://www.nj.com/education/2014/05/average_nj_per_pupil_spending_almost_19k_new_report_finds.html


School Budgets: The Worst Education Money Can Buy

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2011/06/06/School-Budgets-The-Worst-Education-Money-Can-Buy
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January 16th, 2015 at 6:57:26 AM permalink
I was there since the beginning. Although living in North Jersey most of my life and having business interests in Camden and Phili I am very aware of the surroundings and what could have been done. It would have been the right move to move everyone out of AC that was not casino industry related and qualified---and relocating them all to Camden County. I don't say this for spite or to be funny, but Camden and the area had more realistic jobs available for those that would work (again, not qualified to pass the background of CCC for licensing, etc.) Also Camden PD and Camden County S.O. better qualified to handle the people. Could have been done with incentives to the transplanted people as well as businesses in Camden to hire them. But, as we all know, that and anything like that could have only happened back then.
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January 16th, 2015 at 8:04:03 AM permalink
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Atlantic City Mayor:" At Least We're Not Detroit"

Yeah, a tiny example. My x-wife had a friend that opened a small Asian restaurant on the main commercial north/south artery just west of the casinos. Right around the Dunkin Dounuts there. Anyways, after a couple years in business (back in the late 90's) she goes to renovate and expand and wants to bust down a wall of an abandoned building next door--which the landlord also owned. City inspectors made her pay about $80,000.00 or so in plans, architects, engineering and related professionals certifying everything and what the build out was going to be. The city inspectors in their final stage came in and ordered a top to bottom inspection of her current restaurant. In short, she had many violations that were seemingly never caught years before and now they wanted her to fix them. She did. All involving grease hood, exhaust and other equipment violations. All good. Tens of thousands of dollars later she is back to the expansion. Fast forward about two more years and tens of thousands of additional red tape. The city refused to let her do it unless she bought the building and renovated the top 3 floors as well. In other words, everything in the building would have to be brought to code in an older building including handicap, fire escapes and roofing issues (the roof was not leaking and perfectly fine according to a contractor she hired). It turned out to be cost prohibitive. Guess she didn't pay off the right official? But the atmosphere of the city with respects to business was and is poor.

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