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September 14th, 2015 at 1:01:10 PM permalink
A junket operator within the Wynn Macau was reportedly robbed of $258 million dollars. Apparently, it may have been an inside job by employees of Dore Holdings.

I don't think one could physically carry that many Patacas away in a wheelbarrow, so how does one make that much money "disappear"?
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September 14th, 2015 at 4:34:50 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

how does one make that much money "disappear"?



Reminds me of the Johnny Cash song One Piece at a Time
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September 14th, 2015 at 6:00:57 PM permalink
Players and sub-junkets deposit money with Dore. But Wynn denies ever seeing the money. The employee probably wire the money to some shadow bank or mafia and took off. And what do you know, probably Dore deals with them everyday as well.
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November 10th, 2015 at 1:33:34 AM permalink
Sounds about right - especially the bit about shadow banking. In my journalist career I covered a money laundering trial in Hong Kong concerning junkets in Macau and you'd be amazed at how easy it is/was to get money out of Macau into China.
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November 10th, 2015 at 6:58:45 AM permalink
Quote: ProTipster

Sounds about right - especially the bit about shadow banking. In my journalist career I covered a money laundering trial in Hong Kong concerning junkets in Macau and you'd be amazed at how easy it is/was to get money out of Macau into China.



ProTipster,

Welcome to the forum! I'm sure, if you have information and insights about how these things work in Macau, we'd like to hear more about it and be able to ask questions. Please feel free to elaborate here or start a thread of your own.
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November 10th, 2015 at 5:05:47 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

ProTipster,

Welcome to the forum! I'm sure, if you have information and insights about how these things work in Macau, we'd like to hear more about it and be able to ask questions. Please feel free to elaborate here or start a thread of your own.

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November 10th, 2015 at 5:39:25 PM permalink
Quote: ProTipster

Sounds about right - especially the bit about shadow banking. In my journalist career I covered a money laundering trial in Hong Kong concerning junkets in Macau and you'd be amazed at how easy it is/was to get money out of Macau into China.



but who wants to get money INTO China? there is no restriction sending money in. the difficult part is how to get money OUT.
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November 10th, 2015 at 5:42:16 PM permalink
My thought exactly. Why is the guy in red? Even Beach welcomed him with open arms, so he can't be a previously banned member.
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November 10th, 2015 at 6:21:50 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Why is he red?



I don't know. Might be something happened via PM's, but I have no info so am not going to speculate.
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November 10th, 2015 at 6:30:32 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I don't know. Might be something happened via PM's, but I have no info so am not going to speculate.



Protipster started a blog. I am guessing there was something untoward in it and one of the other mods nuked him.
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November 10th, 2015 at 6:36:28 PM permalink
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Protipster started a blog. I am guessing there was something untoward in it and one of the other mods nuked him.



Yeah, that looks like the most likely event. Pity, if he was real, that he couldn't color inside the lines.
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December 22nd, 2016 at 2:46:24 AM permalink
Most probably it was an inside job with the casino. The money can be wired any time they want. It can be a job of a syndicate operating in Macau.
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December 22nd, 2016 at 3:16:12 AM permalink
Quote: andysif

but who wants to get money INTO China? there is no restriction sending money in. the difficult part is how to get money OUT.

People in China want to get money into China so they can be richer. Spending money in Macau doesn't help them. Spending money in China is what they want because that is where they live. So some minor corrupt official takes a fling in Macau and if he wins, he sure wants that money in China so he can become a major corrupt official.
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