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March 5th, 2023 at 10:37:20 PM permalink
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Last year I found a 80 sq ft rolled up rug in the corner of Goodwill for $20 it was like new and I looked it up from the label that was on it and it sold for $450. I bought it and put it in my bedroom it fit perfectly. But there are people here who would rather pay the $450 and I say more power to them if money means that little to you.
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Okay, here's the thing though. The only thing I can (and have) used a $450. rug for, is to cover up a portion of a $20000., $30000., $50000. or $100000. rug because that portion is say, around a bar, or some kind of eating area.

Which means that you can't really blame someone for paying $450. for a rug because in my estimation, you pay that amount gladly and don't have time to look around because you want something that is essentially disposable and yet at least matches the color scheme of the Persian rug it is meant to protect. Sure, if I could find the exact color and thickness of $450. cover up rug I need for $20., I'd do it, but I'm not going to spend my life searching for that.

Not that even one Persian rug in the average person's home is covered up, but in some situations, the need arises.

Incidentally, nothing lasts like a Persian rug. No matter how tightly that machine made cheap rug is woven, no matter how expensive that wall to wall carpeting is, it will never outlast especially an antique Persian. And for that matter, no modern synthetic dyes will outlast the vegetables dyes in an antique Persian or Oriental rug.

By the same token, antique furniture, a lot of it, is made so much better than modern, that it will outlast (and already has outlasted) most modern furniture.

Now that sort of look, Persian rugs and antique furniture, doesn't suit everyone's home, but where it does suit, there are no comparables. And you're not going to find either in a thrift store.

Hey! Hey! That's a Persian rug. It's from Persia.

As far as wearing used clothing, I would not have a problem with that, but I wouldn't bother unless we were talking about some kind of vintage shirt or designer shirt where the intrinsic value was there. Who needs used clothing when cheap brand new clothing from wherever costs about nothing these days anyway.

I pretty much agree with Ace on this one. Look at how dapper Ace Rothstein dressed, a little flashy, very '70s or '80s, but still - how can you find fault with that? I'd like to see a casino owner dress like that every day.
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March 6th, 2023 at 1:53:46 AM permalink
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Elon Musk has a plan to put computer chips in people's brains
his try was just shot down by regulators
he will no doubt keep trying


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March 6th, 2023 at 6:16:56 AM permalink
Most of the time the only issue I have with flying is if it doesn't leave on schedule or canceled. Even bad turbulence doesn't bother me that much.. I usually have my seat belt on.

But this would make me really uncomfortable. Not the birds, but the inside of the cabin air.

Quote:

A Southwest US-bound flight was forced to make an emergency landing after birds struck the plane's engine, the airline said.

The plane - flying from Havana to Fort Lauderdale, Florida - filled with smoke following the collision shortly after take-off on Sunday morning, Southwest said in a statement.

No one was injured in the incident

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March 6th, 2023 at 7:17:35 AM permalink
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I pretty much agree with Ace on this one. Look at how dapper Ace Rothstein dressed, a little flashy, very '70s or '80s, but still - how can you find fault with that? I'd like to see a casino owner dress like that every day.
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Even in the modern era, I still can’t get a suit tailored in three days. I could imagine Lester D shopping at goodwill…back in the day he probably bought gifts for Ginger there
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March 6th, 2023 at 10:30:01 AM permalink
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Loretta Lynn who was eventually worth millions when she went shopping for something like a toaster or a electric skillet she would always buy two of them and she would always buy them on sale so when the first one broke she had the second one that was bought on sale. She could obviously afford to buy a new one every week but that was not her mentality just because you have money doesn't mean you have to squander it.
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Buying two of everything and keeping one in storage "just in case" is not even remotely frugal...LOL....
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March 6th, 2023 at 11:11:23 AM permalink
Buying used is often the best way to go.

I bought all but two of my vehicles used, which saved a lot.

The big savings come into play with buying used high end audio equipment: let someone else take a depreciation hit.

Heck, it carries over to love as well: both of my wives (one is an ex) were "used," i.e. previously married and divorced.

I don't see myself as cheap, just thrifty.
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March 6th, 2023 at 11:31:56 AM permalink
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Buying used is often the best way to go.



I don't see myself as cheap, just thrifty.
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Au contraire, mon ami. As they say in Thailand, you get what you pay for.

Or so I’ve heard, anyways.
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March 6th, 2023 at 11:43:29 AM permalink
I was looking to buy a footstool for my couch. I got up early and went to the furniture store. The store sometimes has odd pieces of a furniture set that people didn't want to buy. I was prepared to pay $100 to $200 for a footstool. I arrived at the store about 9:15 in the morning only to find out that they didn't open till 10:00.

I decided not to wait and I went to a Good Will store on my way home. As soon As I entered the store I saw a footstool that cost $10. It was even the color of the couch I had. As I was paying for it, I asked if they had a military discount. The cashier said that not only do they have a military discount, but today was senior discount day. I got the footstool for $9.
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March 6th, 2023 at 11:51:22 AM permalink
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Loretta Lynn who was eventually worth millions when she went shopping for something like a toaster or a electric skillet she would always buy two of them and she would always buy them on sale so when the first one broke she had the second one that was bought on sale. She could obviously afford to buy a new one every week but that was not her mentality just because you have money doesn't mean you have to squander it.
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Buying two of everything and keeping one in storage "just in case" is not even remotely frugal...LOL....
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It is when you buy it on sale, which I do all the time. I just found a fantastic price for duct tape on Amazon and I bought six huge rolls enough to last me probably the rest of my life and the next day the price went way back up to normal. That's the very basis of frugality, buying when it's low and saving your money when it's high.
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March 6th, 2023 at 12:08:42 PM permalink
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Loretta Lynn who was eventually worth millions when she went shopping for something like a toaster or a electric skillet she would always buy two of them and she would always buy them on sale so when the first one broke she had the second one that was bought on sale. She could obviously afford to buy a new one every week but that was not her mentality just because you have money doesn't mean you have to squander it.
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Buying two of everything and keeping one in storage "just in case" is not even remotely frugal...LOL....
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It is when you buy it on sale, which I do all the time. I just found a fantastic price for duct tape on Amazon and I bought six huge rolls enough to last me probably the rest of my life and the next day the price went way back up to normal. That's the very basis of frugality, buying when it's low and saving your money when it's high.
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March 6th, 2023 at 1:28:39 PM permalink
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Loretta Lynn who was eventually worth millions when she went shopping for something like a toaster or a electric skillet she would always buy two of them and she would always buy them on sale so when the first one broke she had the second one that was bought on sale. She could obviously afford to buy a new one every week but that was not her mentality just because you have money doesn't mean you have to squander it.
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Buying two of everything and keeping one in storage "just in case" is not even remotely frugal...LOL....
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It is when you buy it on sale, which I do all the time. I just found a fantastic price for duct tape on Amazon and I bought six huge rolls enough to last me probably the rest of my life and the next day the price went way back up to normal. That's the very basis of frugality, buying when it's low and saving your money when it's high.
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EB’s living room:



It’ll all come in handy some day!
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March 6th, 2023 at 2:43:32 PM permalink
I was in the Bisbee thrift store, and they had a pallet of brand-new swim fins. Some had $79.99, and some had $29.00 tags. They were on sale for only one dollar. I found seven pair of XXL ( size 13-15) with higher price tags—$ 560 worth of swim fins for $7.
Is that frugal?
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March 6th, 2023 at 3:02:55 PM permalink
That's a fire sale.
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March 7th, 2023 at 8:10:57 AM permalink
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I was in the Bisbee thrift store, and they had a pallet of brand-new swim fins. Some had $79.99, and some had $29.00 tags. They were on sale for only one dollar. I found seven pair of XXL ( size 13-15) with higher price tags—$ 560 worth of swim fins for $7.
Is that frugal?
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Do they fit on your 14 feet
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March 7th, 2023 at 11:53:05 AM permalink
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every time I go to 7-Eleven to get a coffee I stuff my pocket with a large bunch of free napkins which are not monitored closely by the staff

I'm estimating that over the course of the year I go + EV on napkins by more than $10.00


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March 7th, 2023 at 12:08:54 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

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every time I go to 7-Eleven to get a coffee I stuff my pocket with a large bunch of free napkins which are not monitored closely by the staff

I'm estimating that over the course of the year I go + EV on napkins by more than $10.00


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Pro-tip
Can be used as emergency substitute for TP.
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March 7th, 2023 at 2:01:50 PM permalink
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March 7th, 2023 at 2:32:02 PM permalink
Super secret machine play.
I know a machine that you put $10 in and it gives you your bag of chips or candy bar and then spits your $10 back out. I hope Darkoz and his crew don’t burn it out.
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March 7th, 2023 at 9:03:22 PM permalink
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Quote: lilredrooster

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every time I go to 7-Eleven to get a coffee I stuff my pocket with a large bunch of free napkins which are not monitored closely by the staff

I'm estimating that over the course of the year I go + EV on napkins by more than $10.00


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Pro-tip
Can be used as emergency substitute for TP.
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Have you been auditing my training classes without my knowledge?

A couple of paper napkins in a pocket can be splendidly useful.
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March 7th, 2023 at 9:39:16 PM permalink
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A person who buys clothes at goodwill (by choice, not necessity) is the most miserable tightwad imaginable
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Responding here, rather than in the DSL3...

I would say that thrift store shoes, socks, and undershorts are a bridge too far.

The boutiques and department stores in the mall do not offer the clothing articles I require to create and express my unique personal style.

The 5 year old really likes the quest for stylish vintage apparel, and then negotiating discounts on items she fancies. Thrift stores are far more willing to haggle than consignment shops.

I mostly look at the thrift stores for unusual small appliances. Habitat for Humanity ReStore seems to be the best way to match hardware styles for the places I find myself. (Window crank handles and decorative hinges, mostly.)
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March 8th, 2023 at 9:35:18 AM permalink
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.every time I go to 7-Eleven to get a coffee I stuff my pocket with a large bunch of free napkins which are not monitored closely by the staff. I'm estimating that over the course of the year I go + EV on napkins by more than $10.00.



Well played.

I always grab match books from the casinos I visit: god help me if the one foot square cardboard box I hoard them in ever catches fire...
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March 8th, 2023 at 11:26:14 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

Quote: Ace2

A person who buys clothes at goodwill (by choice, not necessity) is the most miserable tightwad imaginable
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Responding here, rather than in the DSL3...

I would say that thrift store shoes, socks, and undershorts are a bridge too far.

The boutiques and department stores in the mall do not offer the clothing articles I require to create and express my unique personal style.

The 5 year old really likes the quest for stylish vintage apparel, and then negotiating discounts on items she fancies. Thrift stores are far more willing to haggle than consignment shops.

I mostly look at the thrift stores for unusual small appliances. Habitat for Humanity ReStore seems to be the best way to match hardware styles for the places I find myself. (Window crank handles and decorative hinges, mostly.)
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My new go to place for bargains is Facebook Marketplace. Unbelievable bargains there of every kind. Last week I bought a 8 ft antique wood step ladder for my cats for 10 bucks and the guy even delivered it to my house. Also last week I bought two commercial wood stand alone shelving units that are 5 ft tall and 6 ft long and there's a pair of them and I got them for $20 for the pair. And that guy also deliver them to my house which is a good thing cuz I don't think I could have got them in my van by myself. Super quality I couldn't be happier with them. I'm never going to buy another refurbished laptop there are way too many good ones on sale for half the money and twice the computer on Facebook Marketplace. Kitchen appliances also, anything you can think of it's there.
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March 8th, 2023 at 6:00:13 PM permalink
We approach another time change this Sunday and as everybody knows I'm on winter daylight savings time, I am 2 hours ahead of everybody else in my time zone because I don't like the sun going down early in the winter. Because of the resounding success of this I've decided to turn my clocks ahead an hour on Sunday like everybody else so I will continue to be 2 hours ahead. The sun will go down on June 21st at 9:20 where I livel that will be 11:20 p.m. at my house so it will still be light out at11:45. It will be like living in Alaska. It means I never have to think about timing anything I do outdoors this summer because I will always have enough light. It does not suck to be me..
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March 8th, 2023 at 6:05:18 PM permalink
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We approach another time change this Sunday and as everybody knows I'm on winter daylight savings time, I am 2 hours ahead of everybody else in my time zone because I don't like the sun going down early in the winter. Because of the resounding success of this I've decided to turn my clocks ahead an hour on Sunday like everybody else so I will continue to be 2 hours ahead. The sun will go down on June 21st at 9:20 where I livel that will be 11:20 p.m. at my house so it will still be light out at11:45. It will be like living in Alaska. It means I never have to think about timing anything I do outdoors this summer because I will always have enough light. It does not suck to be me..
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You go, girl!
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March 8th, 2023 at 6:21:27 PM permalink
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March 8th, 2023 at 10:48:08 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Quote: Dieter

Quote: Ace2

A person who buys clothes at goodwill (by choice, not necessity) is the most miserable tightwad imaginable
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Responding here, rather than in the DSL3...

I would say that thrift store shoes, socks, and undershorts are a bridge too far.

The boutiques and department stores in the mall do not offer the clothing articles I require to create and express my unique personal style.

The 5 year old really likes the quest for stylish vintage apparel, and then negotiating discounts on items she fancies. Thrift stores are far more willing to haggle than consignment shops.

I mostly look at the thrift stores for unusual small appliances. Habitat for Humanity ReStore seems to be the best way to match hardware styles for the places I find myself. (Window crank handles and decorative hinges, mostly.)
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My new go to place for bargains is Facebook Marketplace. Unbelievable bargains there of every kind. Last week I bought a 8 ft antique wood step ladder for my cats for 10 bucks and the guy even delivered it to my house. Also last week I bought two commercial wood stand alone shelving units that are 5 ft tall and 6 ft long and there's a pair of them and I got them for $20 for the pair. And that guy also deliver them to my house which is a good thing cuz I don't think I could have got them in my van by myself. Super quality I couldn't be happier with them. I'm never going to buy another refurbished laptop there are way too many good ones on sale for half the money and twice the computer on Facebook Marketplace. Kitchen appliances also, anything you can think of it's there.
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just be careful on marketplace as not everyone is honest. Also be super careful giving out your address for delivery
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March 9th, 2023 at 4:45:39 AM permalink
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Quote: lilredrooster

.every time I go to 7-Eleven to get a coffee I stuff my pocket with a large bunch of free napkins which are not monitored closely by the staff. I'm estimating that over the course of the year I go + EV on napkins by more than $10.00.



Well played.

I always grab match books from the casinos I visit: god help me if the one foot square cardboard box I hoard them in ever catches fire...



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Super secret machine play.
I know a machine that you put $10 in and it gives you your bag of chips or candy bar and then spits your $10 back out. I hope Darkoz and his crew don’t burn it out.



these are some awesome AP moves - newbies - take note - there's a lot to learn here

every time I go to the grocery store I load up on the free plastic bags people put their fruit in
they can be used for small trashbags
the plastic ties are free too - I grab a whole bunch of those suckers
keep a half full bag of Oreos tied up and fresh with those babies

every single year I go + EV by more that $20.00 on plastic bags


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March 9th, 2023 at 9:25:31 PM permalink
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 13th, 2023 at 7:15:35 AM permalink
What would happen if you trained two different animals who eat different food to feed each other? For instance, train a bird to drag premade packages of dog food off the top of the refrigerator, and train the dog how to turn a knob to of a door to drag a bowl of bird seed out on the floor. Would they form a useful symbiotic relationship?
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March 14th, 2023 at 6:08:22 AM permalink
Happy pi-day everyone.

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March 14th, 2023 at 7:31:07 AM permalink
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Happy pi-day everyone.

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I was at Wegmans yesterday. In the bakery section they were announcing ‘pi day’ specials. Like a piece of pie, usually $5, for $3.14.
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March 14th, 2023 at 8:19:36 AM permalink
Still waiting for more fuss over February 7th or June 28th than May 4th.

That snowstorm hitting the Northeast right now is annoying.
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March 14th, 2023 at 5:48:46 PM permalink
The wife and I went out front of the house about 15 minutes ago and we were able to see the Spacex rocket launch. We are about 210 miles away but it was pretty easy to watch it for the first few minutes.

Hopefully we will get to Cape Canaveral this year for a launch.
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March 14th, 2023 at 5:59:24 PM permalink
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It does not suck to be me..
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I disagree 100%
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March 14th, 2023 at 7:02:27 PM permalink
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It does not suck to be me..
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I disagree 100%
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But you're not me so you're disagreement is based on nothing except prejudice and bias. Most days I wake up and I say to myself, it doesn't suck to be me.
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March 14th, 2023 at 7:03:06 PM permalink
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The wife and I went out front of the house about 15 minutes ago and we were able to see the Spacex rocket launch. We are about 210 miles away but it was pretty easy to watch it for the first few minutes.

Hopefully we will get to Cape Canaveral this year for a launch.
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Which wife, the weekday wife or the weekend wife.
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March 14th, 2023 at 7:56:49 PM permalink
Future ex's or ex futures?
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March 15th, 2023 at 2:40:12 AM permalink
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March 15th, 2023 at 5:16:32 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

The wife and I went out front of the house about 15 minutes ago and we were able to see the Spacex rocket launch. We are about 210 miles away but it was pretty easy to watch it for the first few minutes.

Hopefully we will get to Cape Canaveral this year for a launch.
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Hey, we saw the launch last night, too! We're about 150 miles away. Never seen one burn so red.

I've watched a couple of launches from Titusville. One of these days, I'd like to go out on the Victory Casino Cruise to watch a launch. You have to time it right, but I hear they get an awesome view of the launches.
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March 15th, 2023 at 6:44:50 AM permalink
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Quote: DRich

The wife and I went out front of the house about 15 minutes ago and we were able to see the Spacex rocket launch. We are about 210 miles away but it was pretty easy to watch it for the first few minutes.

Hopefully we will get to Cape Canaveral this year for a launch.
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Hey, we saw the launch last night, too! We're about 150 miles away. Never seen one burn so red.

I've watched a couple of launches from Titusville. One of these days, I'd like to go out on the Victory Casino Cruise to watch a launch. You have to time it right, but I hear they get an awesome view of the launches.
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Even when you go there, I believe the closest access is around 10 miles away. I watched one shuttle launch from the Cape. I forget which year it was. What I do remember is the cheap camera I used had just a tiny dot on the photo. I had to tell people what the picture even was.
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March 15th, 2023 at 8:32:37 AM permalink
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The wife and I went out front of the house about 15 minutes ago and we were able to see the Spacex rocket launch. We are about 210 miles away but it was pretty easy to watch it for the first few minutes.

Hopefully we will get to Cape Canaveral this year for a launch.
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Hey, we saw the launch last night, too! We're about 150 miles away. Never seen one burn so red.

I've watched a couple of launches from Titusville. One of these days, I'd like to go out on the Victory Casino Cruise to watch a launch. You have to time it right, but I hear they get an awesome view of the launches.
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Even when you go there, I believe the closest access is around 10 miles away. I watched one shuttle launch from the Cape. I forget which year it was. What I do remember is the cheap camera I used had just a tiny dot on the photo. I had to tell people what the picture even was.
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Well, now you have got me wondering. I found this website that has some good info as to where to watch a launch.

Also, Victory Casino has some launch videos on their FB page.
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I was driving to Sierra Vista yesterday when I saw a strange sight. A huge grey military cargo jet flew very low over the fields to my right. Several cars had pulled over and were filming it, so I thought I would too. That's when I realized I didn't have my phone.
So this plane, possibly a C-130, would gain elevation to about 1,000 feet, make a wide turn, come back and swoop down to maybe 100 feet or less, and then repeat it over and over. Someone said they thought they were practicing dropping fire repellent. Strangely, the plane was all grey, with no tail markings and nothing to identify it. I've seen similar planes flying in and out of Fort Huachuca, but watching them making these practice runs was a first for me.
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March 15th, 2023 at 11:26:25 AM permalink
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I was driving to Sierra Vista yesterday when I saw a strange sight. A huge grey military cargo jet flew very low over the fields to my right. Several cars had pulled over and were filming it, so I thought I would too. That's when I realized I didn't have my phone.
So this plane, possibly a C-130, would gain elevation to about 1,000 feet, make a wide turn, come back and swoop down to maybe 100 feet or less, and then repeat it over and over. Someone said they thought they were practicing dropping fire repellent. Strangely, the plane was all grey, with no tail markings and nothing to identify it. I've seen similar planes flying in and out of Fort Huachuca, but watching them making these practice runs was a first for me.
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They are always gray. My son flew them in the AF for years and he says that they wasted incredible amount of fuel doing practice runs. He says the military waste money like nothing he's ever seen. Now he's a retired colonel but he still puts in one week ia month in the Air Force Reserve while maintaining a full-time job at American Airlines. This was a kid who stole a couple cars with his buddies in high school and the judge told him join the military when you graduate or you're going to prison so that's what he did and look where he is now. He joined with a high school diploma but tested so high that they sent him to college for a four year degree and then two more masters degrees in aviation. That's how you advance in the military the more education you get the more rank you get. It's always been that way.
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March 15th, 2023 at 11:39:27 AM permalink
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They are always gray. My son flew them in the AF for years and he says that they wasted incredible amount of fuel doing practice runs. He says the military waste money like nothing he's ever seen. Now he's a retired colonel but he still puts in one week ia month in the Air Force Reserve while maintaining a full-time job at American Airlines. This was a kid who stole a couple cars with his buddies in high school and the judge told him join the military when you graduate or you're going to prison so that's what he did and look where he is now. He joined with a high school diploma but tested so high that they sent him to college for a four year degree and then two more masters degrees in aviation. That's how you advance in the military the more education you get the more rank you get. It's always been that way.
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That is awesome what he accomplished. Is he a pilot for American? I know two American pilots one is based in Charlotte and the other in Dallas.
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I think I saw a news story a few months ago about the Air Force removing high-contrast tail numbers, and using a different tail marking scheme that was less readily identifiable.

I am pretty sure I saw a few on a recent trip near an Air Force base, and they do look different than they used to. I think it's a different shade of grey than they used to use.
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They are always gray. My son flew them in the AF for years and he says that they wasted incredible amount of fuel doing practice runs. He says the military waste money like nothing he's ever seen. Now he's a retired colonel but he still puts in one week ia month in the Air Force Reserve while maintaining a full-time job at American Airlines. This was a kid who stole a couple cars with his buddies in high school and the judge told him join the military when you graduate or you're going to prison so that's what he did and look where he is now. He joined with a high school diploma but tested so high that they sent him to college for a four year degree and then two more masters degrees in aviation. That's how you advance in the military the more education you get the more rank you get. It's always been that way.
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That is awesome what he accomplished. Is he a pilot for American? I know two American pilots one is based in Charlotte and the other in Dallas.
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He's based in Philadelphia. American is the premier airline to fly for he got hired immediately because of his high rank and years of military flying. They have flight schools now that train airline pilots but they don't start out making much money because they don't have any hours behind them. They have to fly co-pilot for years before they become a pilot. I think right now he's flying one of those monster planes to Europe and back. For most of 2005 he flew the C130 that followed Air Force One around the world. Whenever the president travels a huge plane is behind with all the armored vehicle equipment in it and the Secret Service. I got to tour the plane when President Bush visited our local city. Gigantic planes how they get off the ground is amazing.
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He's based in Philadelphia. American is the premier airline to fly for he got hired immediately because of his high rank and years of military flying. They have flight schools now that train airline pilots but they don't start out making much money because they don't have any hours behind them. They have to fly co-pilot for years before they become a pilot. I think right now he's flying one of those monster planes to Europe and back. For most of 2005 he flew the C130 that followed Air Force One around the world. Whenever the president travels a huge plane is behind with all the armored vehicle equipment in it and the Secret Service. I got to tour the plane when President Bush visited our local city. Gigantic planes how they get off the ground is amazing.
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Probably on a 767 if he is mainly flying international. Have you ever flown on one of his flights?
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Ford announced today that they will be going to an Agency model where prices are fixed and can be purchased online. For those that still want to go to the dealership, you can and you will get the exact same price as the dealers will just be ordering them online for you if it isn't in stock. It will take some time to transition but I bet in 10 years all car dealers will be doing this.

The dealers will be getting paid by Ford for the delivery and presentation with their payment based on Customer satisfaction scores.

Ford says now that they make about $1500 on each car sold and the dealers are making over $2000. Their thought is that we designed the car, built the car, and shipped the car so we should get the majority of the money. Apparently Tesla makes about $7000 per sale but of course their cars are more expensive.
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March 15th, 2023 at 4:26:21 PM permalink
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He's based in Philadelphia. American is the premier airline to fly for he got hired immediately because of his high rank and years of military flying. They have flight schools now that train airline pilots but they don't start out making much money because they don't have any hours behind them. They have to fly co-pilot for years before they become a pilot. I think right now he's flying one of those monster planes to Europe and back. For most of 2005 he flew the C130 that followed Air Force One around the world. Whenever the president travels a huge plane is behind with all the armored vehicle equipment in it and the Secret Service. I got to tour the plane when President Bush visited our local city. Gigantic planes how they get off the ground is amazing.
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Probably on a 767 if he is mainly flying international. Have you ever flown on one of his flights?
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It's an Airbus A321 and no I've never flown on one of his flights. My wife flies standby for free a few times a year but I've never done that cuz I don't go anywhere.
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It's an Airbus A321 and no I've never flown on one of his flights. My wife flies standby for free a few times a year but I've never done that cuz I don't go anywhere.
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The 3 series plane is a great plane and probably the best single aisle plane made. On the other hand, it is not very big and probably only flies very short international flights as they prefer to use the planes with more seats on those routes.
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