Miscellaneous Discussion Thread
Quote: RigondeauxThese discussions continually surprise me.
Here in the Southwest, this it is more intense. However, I'm fairly well traveled and it seems that most of the country has a fair portion of Mexican eateries and that it is obvious at a glance that there are no waiters with bow ties inside of them.
If you go to a decent one, the food will be better because... well, let's say you get a pastor taco. They will have bought fresh pork, marinated the pork in awesome stuff, cooked it on a spit and cut it off of the spit and put it directly onto your taco. This, instead of buying meat that was rejected by the prison system weeks eariler, pumping it full of chemicals and cooking it in a factory, dehydrating and freezing it, then dehydrating and microwaving it before serving it to you atop a tortilla that is 75% preservatives.
Similar principals apply to many other types of food.
I'm fascinated by the idea of grown ups who never really try non-fast food or non-chain restaurants. ESPECIALLY in the age of the internet. Why not? What is the barrier that prevents you from exploring the possibility that somebody might make a better sandwich than Subway? Is this not a regular topic of conversation among people around you, and in local papers? Am I breaking news by mentioning sites like Yelp?
Also, by people like Bill, who do try the non-chain stuff, but still strongly prefer Del Taco.
There is a great Mexican restaurant around the corner from me that pretty much puts Chipotle, the Bell, and Del Taco to shame. I love going to mom and pop restaurants (provided they are busy enough) as the food is usually much better and supports your local community.
Mind you there are plenty of mom-and-pops that truly suck as well.
Quote:Walker County Sheriff James Underwood said the inmates used peanut butter from jail sandwiches to change the number above an inmate's cell to the number that identifies a door leading outside the jail. An inmate then asked the young, inexperienced jailer to open his cell's door, enabling the group to flee outside, where they used blankets to climb over a razor-wire fence.
"It may sound crazy, but these kinds of people are crazy like a fox." Underwood told a news conference. "He thought he was opening the cell door for this man to go in his cell, but in fact he opened up the outside door."
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/jailbreak-inmates-used-peanut-butter-to-fool-door-guard/ar-AAp8PNg?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
Didn't find much I liked. I like American tacos- Del Taco, Jack in the Box. Don't care for authentic Mexican food.
Not really sure why that's a problem for some. If Del Taco served their chicken with chocolate sauce, I wouldn't like theirs either.
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Quote: boymimboas the food is usually much better and supports your local community.
This is one of the most underrated things to do to make things better. Regardless of your political ideology, outside of the most harebrained libertarianism, it's better to build small businesses and keep money circulating than to have it sucked out of your town and into the pockets of the lizard people.
Even if you're kinda poor, you still spend thousands a year. Arguably, spending it in a way that helps your community is even more effective than arguing about politics on internet forums.
Quote: billryanI lived in Oaxaca for several months. That is supposed to be the epicenter for Mexican food.
Didn't find much I liked. I like American tacos- Del Taco, Jack in the Box. Don't care for authentic Mexican food.
Not really sure why that's a problem for some. If Del Taco served their chicken with chocolate sauce, I wouldn't like theirs either.
I don't have a problem with it, while it is perplexing to me. You tried different stuff and decided you liked Del Taco.
There are two separate issues. People who prefer fast/chain food. (Maybe a reaction to the chemicals? This is certainly why I periodically lapse into sucking down gallons of diet coke.)
People who walk around their whole lives and never think to try anything but fast/chain food. This is even stranger to me.
Quote: RigondeauxI don't have a problem with it, while it is perplexing to me. People who prefer fast/chain food.
my other half is a great cook so i'm always comparing outside food to what she cooks and even the non fast food places don't compare well. of course, she doesn't want to cook every night. my experience is that non fast food places might be better than fast food places but they aren't THAT MUCH BETTER and they cost a lot more. and then there is even a big difference within the fast food world. you mentioned baja fresh. i like them and consider them fast food. there is a big difference between them and burger king. so, within the fast food world a person can be a little bit choosy and opt for the better stuff. i.e. : you can get a really good burger at shake shack for about $8. if you go to a restaurant and pay $16 for a burger is it going to be a lot better? i don't think so.
Personally, I love chicken fingers and steak. I love the cheap chicken fingers you can get at bars around Vegas as well as Jack in the Box and the old Burger King ones with that really good flavor. But I hate the chicken fingers they serve at nicer restaurants, especially Chili's. If I'm ever at a Chili's and order chicken fingers, or any nicer-than-complete-sh**-restaurant, remind me not to order it.
I also love steak. And although there are some places that have good, cheap steak, it's usually not anywhere comparable to a steakhouse (this is expected). Try a rib-eye, New York, or some other steak from TGI Fridays then try it again at an actual steak house.....the one at the steak house will absolutely 100% be better. If you disagree, you are simply wrong.
The various microbes and parasites interact with and influence what you eat. Your habits, your choices are not entirely yours but they are not entirely the microbes either.Quote: RigondeauxThere are two separate issues. People who prefer fast/chain food. (Maybe a reaction to the chemicals? This is certainly why I periodically lapse into sucking down gallons of diet coke.)
People who walk around their whole lives and never think to try anything but fast/chain food. This is even stranger to me.
Quote: RSI love the cheap chicken fingers you can get a Jack in the Box and the old Burger King ones with that really good flavor.
what you just mentioned is the great trick of the fast food joints. they give you flavor but usually with lower quality ingredients. but you forgive them that because you love the flavor.
Quote: rxwineHe wanted to know your daughter's name, so he could look her up.
The person who proofed her was a smoking hot 21ish year old waitress.
Closing it seems a bit extreme.
I assume you object on racial grounds.
The OP may have such an agenda, but the links he posted point to issues (violence, rowdiness) which might be of valid concern to some.
Close call.
Quote: MrVRe: BBB closing "Rap Concert" thread:
Closing it seems a bit extreme.
I assume you object on racial grounds.
The OP may have such an agenda, but the links he posted point to issues (violence, rowdiness) which might be of valid concern to some.
Close call.
I would suggest that, 'Discussion About the Suspension List,' or anything under, 'Rules,' would be the most appropriate venue for this...but since this is, 'Miscellaneous Discussion Thread,' I guess it's just as well.
I agree that it is a close call, but tend to side with Babs because this only seems to pop up when it is a, 'Rap,' concert. Why does it never pop up when there is a metal concert? Has there never been a metal concert? I'm familiar with Metal and Punk concerts and can assure you that violence and rowdiness at either is hardly unusual. Hell, the way people, 'Dance,' (i.e. mosh pits) at such concerts is arguably both rowdy and violent.
If the OP were posting such, 'Alerts,' for all concerts at which some level of rowdiness or violence could be...and I don't even want to say, 'Expected,'...but let's say perhaps more likely than at a Pop Music concert, then there couldn't really be any reasonable accusation of racial undertones. I'd say that the suggestion of racial motivation, whether or not true, is certainly not unreasonable.
Quote: FleaStiffThe various microbes and parasites interact with and influence what you eat. Your habits, your choices are not entirely yours but they are not entirely the microbes either.
I've heard something about that but never read much.
One weird thing about diet coke is, it tastes quite different to me at different times. Sometimes it tastes clean and refreshing. Other times it tastes sweet but in in a weird fake way. Other times it tastes like the smell of pencil shavings.
Something like iced tea always tastes better, if I strictly pay attention to the sensation of taste, but there's definitely some kind of kick from soda. There's a lot more to liking food than taste, that's for sure.
I wonder if the people who concoct food for sufficiently big companies figure out how to appeal to your microbes.
Quote: lilredroostermy other half is a great cook so i'm always comparing outside food to what she cooks and even the non fast food places don't compare well. of course, she doesn't want to cook every night. my experience is that non fast food places might be better than fast food places but they aren't THAT MUCH BETTER and they cost a lot more. and then there is even a big difference within the fast food world. you mentioned baja fresh. i like them and consider them fast food. there is a big difference between them and burger king. so, within the fast food world a person can be a little bit choosy and opt for the better stuff. i.e. : you can get a really good burger at shake shack for about $8. if you go to a restaurant and pay $16 for a burger is it going to be a lot better? i don't think so.
I agree that there is a hierarchy of fast food. McDonald's, BK, Taco Bell, etc. are almost inedible to me. I'd choose to go about 24 hours without food over eating at those places for free*. I know they now have apple slices and stuff, but obviously I'm talking about their main dishes.
Other places are edible. Others aren't bad. Some of this has to do with the nature of the food. Popeyes is pretty good, but then, it is really hard to make fried chicken taste bad. Panda Express tastes fine. Chipotle doesn't actually taste bad, it's just bland and bellow average. Baja Fresh is OK.
However, I disagree that the difference between good places and those places is small, and that the price gap is always big. Mexican food, in particular is USUALLY both fast and cheap, and I think many places would actually be cheaper than Baja. A sit down place might be more, but then you usually get free chips (hot and fresh) and salsa, and if you are especially lucky, bean dip. Plus margaritas. Extremely tough to beat.
If you find a good soul food place, it will blow the doors off Popeye's and it will cost you like $3-5 more to eat there, or maybe less.
In most towns, there are a great many Thai, Chinese and now Vietnamese restaurants that are much better than Panda, but not much more expensive.
* I forgot, I kinda like the sausage biscuits most of those joints serve in the morning.
I never look forward to eating at any of the big chain fast food restaurants nowadays(unless it's a McDonalds deep fried apple pie, I can never find them anyway), but I can't say I hate it either.
Quote: Rigondeaux...it's better to build small businesses and keep money circulating than to have it sucked out of your town and into the pockets of the lizard people...
While I understand your point and share the sentiment to some degree, I sometimes wonder a couple things.
First, the employees of [insert evil corporate store here] all work, spend, and pay taxes locally, as do the franchisees, often. Local people buying food from local employees circulates money locally.
Second, what are the qualifications for becoming "lizard people?" The act of incorporation? Market capilization? Location of headquarters?
Ray Kroc started small. At what point did he become reptilian and no longer worthy of patronage?
Quote: RigondeauxI agree that there is a hierarchy of fast food. McDonald's, BK, Taco Bell, etc. are almost inedible to me. I'd choose to go about 24 hours without food over eating at those places for free*. I know they now have apple slices and stuff, but obviously I'm talking about their main dishes.
Other places are edible. Others aren't bad. Some of this has to do with the nature of the food. Popeyes is pretty good, but then, it is really hard to make fried chicken taste bad. Panda Express tastes fine. Chipotle doesn't actually taste bad, it's just bland and bellow average. Baja Fresh is OK.
However, I disagree that the difference between good places and those places is small, and that the price gap is always big. Mexican food, in particular is USUALLY both fast and cheap, and I think many places would actually be cheaper than Baja. A sit down place might be more, but then you usually get free chips (hot and fresh) and salsa, and if you are especially lucky, bean dip. Plus margaritas. Extremely tough to beat.
If you find a good soul food place, it will blow the doors off Popeye's and it will cost you like $3-5 more to eat there, or maybe less.
In most towns, there are a great many Thai, Chinese and now Vietnamese restaurants that are much better than Panda, but not much more expensive.
* I forgot, I kinda like the sausage biscuits most of those joints serve in the morning.
If you're ever in the Washington, D.C. area there is a place call Ooh's and Aah's soul food which is the best soul food I've had anywhere in North America hands down!
Quote: CalderRay Kroc started small. At what point did he become reptilian and no longer worthy of patronage?
When they added "pink slime" favorite lizard food?
Quote:These trimmings, which consist of what's left of the meat after all the choice cuts of beef are taken, are banned for human consumption in the U.K, where they are instead used for dog and chicken food. They are legal for consumption in the United States, however, where they are treated with ammonium hydroxide in order to kill off bacteria such as E. coli and make it safe for human consumption.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/02/01/mcdonalds-announces-end-to-pink-slime-in-burgers/
Actually I think Kroc was long dead.
Obviously, you never really KNOW where your money is going. Maybe the owners of Metro Pizza live in Grand Caymon and don't pay taxes. And some of the Taco Bell money stays here. But I'd say a conservative estimate would be every franchise takes a million bucks or so a year out of the community, which then goes to tax shelters, bribing politicians, etc. Though, maybe the owners of Metro Pizza also bribe city council members.
Nonetheless, odds are the owner of Big Wong pays his taxes, spends his money around town, and maybe by eating there I am helping him put his kid through college. AND I get better food served in a place with character.
Quote: billryanDon't know about out here, but in NYC, the odds are the employees of a Chinese Restaurant are not paying taxes, are working long hours at sub minimum wage and half of them are sleeping in the basement while they pay off the people who brought them to America.
A lot of Chinese places here have white people answering phones and ringing up orders. That, or their 10yo Asian children who speak great English.
Double double, animal style
large fries
Vanilla shake
Heaven!
Quote: IbeatyouracesI though haven for you is being LarryS's shadow. 😆
You misspelled two of the nine words.
Why am I not surprised?
Quote: MrVYou misspelled two of the nine words.
Why am I not surprised?
It was on purpose because I know a marijuana addict like you would be able to understand it. 😎
I fixed it BTW. But seriously, that's how spell check works when using Swype....poorly.
Quote: DrawingDeadGoing 7 & 2 in 9 shots? Congrats. Whether it was done by Swype, Kype, or AshWype, methinks getting nearly 78% accuracy on anything is quite a bit above average for the WoV Forum, isn't it?
It has to be better than Axel. 🤣
Plus the keyboard on this new phone I got is tiny.
Quote: IbeatyouracesI thought heaven for you is being LarryS's shadow. 😆
Nice try.
See: rule 16.
Quote: MrVNice try.
See: rule 16.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/08/01/some-feared-hackers-and-the-devil-others-got-microchipped/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_wonk-microchip-931pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.6e78abf30406
Quote: lilredroosteryes, it's true. an employer in wisconsin is implanting microchips into employees by plunging a needle into their hands. my response if an employer asked to implant me with a microchip? not printable.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/08/01/some-feared-hackers-and-the-devil-others-got-microchipped/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_wonk-microchip-931pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.6e78abf30406
But it's optional so it's a non story imo
Quote: GWAESo had a layover in laguardia today. My ticket says 9am and landing at 1030. We get on runway at 910 and pilot says flight time is 28 minutes. We then proceed to sit in que for 41 minutes. There were planes lined up all over the place waiting for takeoff. At least they figure that time on the ticket.
They didn't always figure it in. They were forced by law to disclose it, i think starring in 2004. That queue likely happens every weekday.
Quote: MrVNice try.
See: rule 16.
You follow him around like a puppy dog. Nothing wrong with that. But you're only insulting yourself by doing so.
Quote: IbeatyouracesYou follow him around like a puppy dog. Nothing wrong with that. But you're only insulting yourself by doing so.
rule 16: "Messages from banned members: Do not quote anything, neither public nor private, a banned member has said. If we ban somebody it means we don't want to hear from them any longer. (Added 6/9/2016)"
I rather doubt that the mods would tolerate a full discussion by me of LarryS. and my perception of his current points of view, which is what I would want to engage in were I to deign to fully respond to your attack.
Quote: GWAEBut it's optional so it's a non story imo
The conspiracy theorists are already saying, "Sure, it's optional now, then in five years it will be mandatory, then every business will require it, then you won't be able to leave your house without a microchip."
Okay, guys. So when are we getting these microchips? Before or after everyone is herded into FEMA camps?
Quote: MrVrule 16: "Messages from banned members: Do not quote anything, neither public nor private, a banned member has said. If we ban somebody it means we don't want to hear from them any longer. (Added 6/9/2016)"
I rather doubt that the mods would tolerate a full discussion by me of LarryS. and my perception of his current points of view, which is what I would want to engage in were I to deign to fully respond to your attack.
I didn't quote him anywhere. He's not worth reading.
Quote: TigerWu... in five years it will be mandatory, then every business will require it, then you won't be able to leave your house without a microchip.
I recently read Greenwald's book about Edward Snowden, which details NSA's ongoing efforts to collect, read, and analyze all data everywhere, including data Congress specifically forbade collecting on Americans without special FISA court permission (and then, brazenly lying about it when called to testify before Congress).
Imbedded microchips will make it easier for the FBI, CIA, and NSA to track everyone, good folks and bad. And, once everyone uses imbedded chips to automatically pay for purchases or to identify oneself, it becomes a simple matter for Homeland Security to simply "turn off" the chip in any inconvenient troublemaker, making that person a non-person in the "merged national" ID, finance, and voting system.
Tiger, it might take longer than 5 years, but -- unfortunately -- you may be correct that it's coming. It sure doesn't look to me like a pretty picture of how technology is helping everyone.
Quote: LuckyPhow
Imbedded microchips will make it easier for the FBI, CIA, and NSA to track everyone, good folks and bad. And, once everyone uses imbedded chips to automatically pay for purchases or to identify oneself, it becomes a simple matter for Homeland Security to simply "turn off" the chip in any inconvenient troublemaker, making that person a non-person in the "merged national" ID, finance, and voting system.
That would be an absolute logistical and practical nightmare to rely on an embedded microchip to do all of that. I don't see it logically happening. It opens up a million questions. What happens if my chip accidentally breaks on the way to work/store/voting booth? What if the electronics get corrupted and my info in confused with someone else? How will non-citizens be able to do anything when visiting the U.S. for business or travel? What about identity theft? If Homeland Security can "turn off" someone's chip remotely, guaranteed there will be a way to turn it back on illicitly. Why would they even want to turn someone's chip off in the first place? If they know where they are, just go pick them up if they're breaking the law somehow.
The whole concept of embedded microchips leading to a police state just doesn't make sense on multiple levels.
Quote: TigerWuThe whole concept of embedded microchips leading to a police state just doesn't make sense on multiple levels.
Good points, Tiger. I hope you are correct. It's really OK to be paranoid if they really are out to get (or get total control of) you. When secret government spy agencies routinely lie to Congress, the system is horribly broken. From what I see in government today, the system is broken.
Your mileage may vary, but be sure to keep an open mind and both eyes open as you careen into the future.
