2016 Election
Quote: ams288Not joking.
I've seen people get a 3 day suspension for less than SanchoPanzo's post.
He attacked the post, not the poster. I thought that was okay....
That is a red statement.
You are red.
I thought the former was generally okay and the latter deemed a personal insult.
Quote: RonCHe attacked the post, not the poster. I thought that was okay....
That is a red statement.
You are red.
I thought the former was generally okay and the latter deemed a personal insult.
As I remember it, I thought the Wizard said something along the lines of if you think something someone posts is "bigoted," the bigotry of the post would speak for itself and you shouldn't call it bigoted.
I tried to find the post in the Discussion about the Suspension List thread but I got distracted by re-reading the B9 shenanigans in that thread and I couldn't find it.
Quote: ams288As I remember it, I thought the Wizard said something along the lines of if you think something someone posts is "bigoted," the bigotry of the post would speak for itself and you shouldn't call it bigoted.
I tried to find the post in the Discussion about the Suspension List thread but I got distracted by re-reading the B9 shenanigans in that thread and I couldn't find it.
That makes sense.
What doesn't make sense is the statement; it is untrue and nasty. There are racists everywhere and attributing them all to one party is ridiculous.
My mother-in-law, a serial MSNBC watcher, says some of the most racist things I have ever heard. She was a member of the Democrat Party and the ACLU. It is almost sad now that she has lost touch with reality--she says these things now to people of color who are taking care of her in the nursing home. It used to anger me when she was still of sound mind. Calling people awful things and then supporting every liberal known to man. Yep, she is a racist and she surely did not vote Republican.
Quote: ams288I disagree. It doesn't have anything to do with getting on TV.
.
Right. After the news yesterday about the old
man hitting the kid, and them talking about
it in the debate, it's just a coincidence that
dozens were arrested today, 95% of them
young kids. Nothing to do with TV. Right.
Quote: EvenBobRight. After the news yesterday about the old
man hitting the kid, and them talking about
it in the debate, it's just a coincidence that
dozens were arrested today, 95% of them
young kids. Nothing to do with TV. Right.
Quote: EvenbobIf I'm in doubt of anything,
I google it first, I did it today several
times. Better to know for sure than to
just think you know.
Dozens arrested?
For protesting?
This is America, protesting is legal in this country
Why are they arresting protestors?
Did you google it?
I see dozens not arrested
source please
Quote: terapinedDozens arrested?
I heard it on MS, they were in a froth
mouthed frenzy this afternoon reporting
the story. You would think it was the
end of the world. I looked it up and there
in no mention of arrests, except for what
MS reported.
That's borderline, at least, maybe you have some 'special protection' I'm not aware of? 2FQuote: ams288Or just take the quote at face value and don't substitute anything.
And be careful with your bigot insinuations......
Quote: TwoFeathersATLThat's borderline, maybe you have some 'special protection' I'm not aware of?
Glad to see your first post back in this thread offered such depth and insight to the 2016 election.
Quote: EvenBobI heard it on MS, they were in a froth
mouthed frenzy this afternoon reporting
the story. You would think it was the
end of the world. I looked it up and there
in no mention of arrests, except for what
MS reported.
What is MS?
Anyway, I checked it out. They did report one person arrested in connection with a protest at a rally in St Louis. No mention of "dozens" arrested but they did mention fistfights, etc.
I am not quoting it since it is such a hot mess using the website.
"Depth and insight " continues to be a goal here, but with or without, no doubt you will continue to lead the faithful. "Siri, was that a right or a left at the next light?"Quote: ams288Glad to see your first post back in this thread offered such depth and insight to the 2016 election.
Quote: ams288What is MS?
MSnbc
Quote: EvenBobMSnbc
I watched them all afternoon.
No one was frothing at the mouth and no one said dozens were arrested...
Quote: EvenBob.
Do you know how many people will be
offended that some black kid with a big
mouth got coldcocked? Not even black
people will care.
I knew a lot of protesters would show up at the next Trump rally
Its common sense.
But you EB
You must be in shock and totally blown away and surprised
Seems Black people do care :-)
Quote: ams288Quote: EvenBobMSnbc
I watched them all afternoon.
Watching any of the cable news stations "all afternoon" is a fate worse than waterboarding....
Let's say this. Okay let's bring in a panel. Let's say it another way. New panel. Repeat until the shows repeat...
Quote: ams288Quote: EvenBobMSnbc
No one was frothing at the mouth and no one said dozens were arrested...
They certainly seemed overly excited to me.
And I did hear it there, you were probably
in the bathroom voiding the Hillary Kool Aid
you'd been guzzling all afternoon. The stuff
you have left over from 2008.
Of course black people care, were you kidding? Black people are people, they have families and concerns just like 'any other people'. That part I understand, in my heart, down deep. What I don't understand is why anyone is concerned with the 'black vote'. I think they missed the bus, (hint, those black people are people, just like you and me. They represent 'bout 10% of the vote, smaller than the 'Latino' vote. I don't like grouping people into either category, or any other category). You US citizen? You vote. You get it right or you make a mistake, either way, you did your part. This country, my country, is very resilient. I suspect that it will still be here when all the opportunists that try to divide us are long dead, only footnotes in an ongoing story. A story to be continued....Quote: terapinedI knew a lot of protesters would show up at the next Trump rally
Its common sense.
But you EB
You must be in shock and totally blown away and surprised
Seems Black people do care :-)
They spoke with one of protesters--she said that they were "protesting everything". What?
They have not cleared the building and the streets are filled.
Good job, Chicago!!
Quote: RonCTrump's event at UIC was just canceled as a safety precaution.
They spoke with one of protesters--she said that they were "protesting everything". What?
They have not cleared the building and the streets are filled.
Good job, Chicago!!
I'm watching
Shocking on both sides. Violence on both sides
I've seen several fights on live TV
There will be arrests tonight
scary
Big crowds outside opposing each other
really sad
Trump is a huge draw now, unfortunately BOTH sides want in now. sigh
Quote: terapinedI'm watching
Shocking on both sides. Violence on both sides
I've seen several fights on live TV
There will be arrests tonight
scary
Big crowds outside opposing each other
really sad
Trump is a huge draw now, unfortunately BOTH sides want in now. sigh
I am worried about violence, too. Any time large groups of people are in each other's faces, anything can happen.
I do have a problem with people like the one protester they interviewed who are protesting "everything"...which really means they don't know what the heck they are doing there, they just want to be in the crowd.
The people against the Donald, protest away...at least they have a clue!!
**Go Terps!!**
Quote: RonCQuote: ams288Quote: EvenBobMSnbc
I watched them all afternoon.
Watching any of the cable news stations "all afternoon" is a fate worse than waterboarding....
Let's say this. Okay let's bring in a panel. Let's say it another way. New panel. Repeat until the shows repeat...
Just to be clear.... I was watching Nancy Reagan's funeral all afternoon. And then I watched for about 30 minutes after that coverage ended.
Typically I don't watch cable news all afternoon. I have a steady diet of talk shows and Judge Judy.
You can't spew that hateful rhetoric and not expect the hate to bubble over into violence.
In February, he urges people at his rally to "kick the crap outta" protestors. He says he wants to "punch them in the face."
Tonight he says "I don't want to see anyone get hurt."
B.S.
Quote: RonC
They spoke with one of protesters--she said that they were "protesting everything". What?
I saw several interviews. When asked what they
were protesting, they said Trump. Why? Uh,
because we can't let him do dem things.
What things do you mean? Uh, those things
he wants to do to us.
In other words, they had no idea why they
were there. Protest=Fun, lets go.
Quote: ams288Not joking.
I've seen people get a 3 day suspension for less than SanchoPanzo's post.
So it's OK to say Republicans are racist but not liberals?
Liberalism at it's core is the most racist/ bigoted thought process around. The belief that certain people can never make it without government help is beyond shame. Then again, look at how most minorities vote Dem year after year as their lives and neighborhoods get worse and worse. Maybe they do need help. But that free health insurance is doing wonders for them, maybe they can use it to get their heads examined.
Quote: EvenBobI saw several interviews. When asked what they
were protesting, they said Trump. Why? Uh,
because we can't let him do dem things.
What things do you mean? Uh, those things
he wants to do to us.
In other words, they had no idea why they
were there. Protest=Fun, lets go.
I popped into Fox and they had a live reporter among the protestors outside
The Fox reporter remarked on how diverse the crowd was.
Many of the shots dominated by multitude of young white student Bernie supporters
Makes sense
This was at the University of Illinois.
anyway, I'm sure there were a lot people there just to party and take part in the whole thing
makes sense
Its a college. Party on. Some things never change :-)
Go Terps, been a roller coaster this season
Quote: terapinedI
Seems Black people do care :-)
Of course they do. It's a general statement but they are in the same boat as many of the young college students and those junkies who were the "Occupy" crowd. When one party promises free stuff and tells them they are victims and the other is telling them we can "Make America Great Again", but it will take hard work and sacrifice, who do you think they are going to support? I don't even blame them, so many of today's youth of all races have never had to work or sacrifice for anything. They have had so much handed to them at a young age, they don't know any other way. And the Dems are smart enough to keep offering the free ride, just what they want to hear.
Quote: EvenBobI saw several interviews. When asked what they
were protesting, they said Trump. Why? Uh,
because we can't let him do dem things.
What things do you mean? Uh, those things
he wants to do to us.
In other words, they had no idea why they
were there. Protest=Fun, lets go.
No most of them have heard Bernie will make Pot legal and they will get free college. And also they will never, ever have to work, pay taxes or lose a loved one. A vote for Bernie or Hillary is a life of luxury is all they understand. While that other guy is "mean" and wants them to lead a life of responsibility for their choices in life. What kind of bs is that?? So unfair!
Quote: BozSo it's OK to say Republicans are racist but not liberals? .
Who said that? Feel free to call liberals racists all you want. I don't care. I don't even read 90% of your posts anyways so it won't bother me much. lol
Lest there be continued misunderstanding, you correctly rendered bigotry and racism as two phenomena. The dictionary definition of a bigot is "a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices." And that encompasses a huge spectrum, including all sorts of social and political questions.Quote: BozSo it's OK to say Republicans are racist but not liberals?
Liberalism at it's core is the most racist/ bigoted thought process around. The belief that certain people can never make it without government help is beyond shame. Then again, look at how most minorities vote Dem year after year as their lives and neighborhoods get worse and worse. Maybe they do need help. But that free health insurance is doing wonders for them, maybe they can use it to get their heads examined.
Just like the Occupy perverts and loonies.Quote: EvenBobIn other words, they had no idea why theywere there. Protest=Fun, lets go.
I know its farfetched
but
His name is in headlines all over the planet.
No republican Presidential contender in recent memory has ever held a campaign rally in the downtown city area
Trump is the 1st one ever
There have been plenty of Republican rallies in the Chicago area
but
Always out in the suburbs, Always. Never in the city
Most especially not since the Godfather took over and the city devolved into an anarchic bloodbath.Quote: terapinedThere have been plenty of Republican rallies in the Chicago area but Always out in the suburbs, Always. Never in the city
It's not a coincidence that those making ridiculous assertions like this frequently can't spell three-letter words. I've noticed this in the comments section of newspaper articles, too: The crazier the proclamations, the more likely they are to be misspelled. Which is precisely the correlation you'd expect.Quote: BozLiberalism at it's core is the most racist/ bigoted thought process around.
Quote: MichaelBluejayIt's not a coincidence that those making ridiculous assertions like this frequently can't spell three-letter words.
That's right, when you can't attack the message,
attack the spelling in the message. Does that
ever work? I mean, ever??
just like MS reported. I knew I heard it
correctly.
"The atmosphere was supercharged early on by news that a similar rally in St. Louis hours earlier generated 32 arrests including one for 3rd degree assault."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3488651/Trump-rally-called-Chicago-credible-threat-protesters-planned-storm-stage-Trump-s-speech-black-protester-bloodied-St-Louis.html
Quote: MichaelBluejayIt's not a coincidence that those making ridiculous assertions like this frequently can't spell three-letter words. I've noticed this in the comments section of newspaper articles, too: The crazier the proclamations, the more likely they are to be misspelled. Which is precisely the correlation you'd expect.
As I have said many times, a wise man (OK, maybe not wise but rich) once said. "I may not be able to spell so good, but I sure can count". I have no issue with you making an assumption about me because I make plenty about you just from your posts.
That said, feel like explaining to me why I am wrong?
Opportunity is out there for almost everyone in America to have almost anything and everything they want. But it's always easier to blame others on why your life didn't turn out the way you wanted instead of blaming the person responsible for it, the one in the mirror every morning. And those on both sides are guilty of that. It's just that the liberals thrive off of telling people that others are to blame, instead of the truth.
Quote: ams288Who said that? Feel free to call liberals racists all you want. I don't care. I don't even read 90% of your posts anyways so it won't bother me much. lol
I read 100% of yours in this thread. Why? Because as I said one other time and you didn't answer, is that I am fascinated how someone can have the views you have and wonder what happened in your life that created these views. Odds are only 10% that you will see this, so I will have to make my own assumptions, good, bad or indifferent.
And I won't put a "lol" like you did because I honestly wonder. But I'm sure people wonder about me and those with my beliefs and values as well.
Quote: @realDonaldTrumpThe organized group of people, many of them thugs, who shut down our First Amendment rights in Chicago, have totally energized America!
The front-runner for the Republican Party is using coded racial language. Glad to see he's finally owning his racism....
Also, they didn't "shut down" his First Amendment rights. He is such a moron.
Quote: ams288Trump just tweeted:
The front-runner for the Republican Party is using coded racial language. Glad to see he's finally owning his racism....
Also, they didn't "shut down" his First Amendment rights. He is such a moron.
A "thug" is a "thug"...it is not "coded racial language" to call a group of people who try to incite riots--who cares about what they look like--"thugs"... It was the threats of violence that caused the problem, not peaceful protest. I think he has "thugs" on his side, too. They just aren't the "thugs" who caused the event to be canceled. One doesn't wade into a crowd who has an opposite point of view with the intention of peacefully protesting--they are trying to start something. Protesting peacefully outside? That is fine; they aren't in a crowd gathered to see a certain person.
They did make their First Amendment rights more important than his by introducing danger inside the arena. If none of them had gone in, there would have been no confrontation in the arena. The "thugs" on his side would have had nothing to fight about. They caused the cancellation of an event that was happening in a rented building; one rented for a Donald Trump event. They cost the broke city of Chicago lots of money with their antics. If they did the same thing during a concert, show, or ball game, they would be detained and tossed out of the event. Outside the arena is a different story--peacefully protest to your heart's content.
Let's not forget the fact that the scum people that protest because they have nothing else to contribute to society also answered the call to protest. Those people are thugs and I have seen them of all colors. They protest just to protest. Heck, I am not even sure they know what they are protesting but they show up all over the place and raise the level of anger...
Quote: RonCA They caused the cancellation of an event that was happening in a rented building; one rented for a Donald Trump event. They cost the broke city of Chicago lots of money with their antics. ...
Why hold the Rally in Chicago?
In the city????????
Republican presidential rallies are never ever held in the city
Its always in the suburbs
That's where Cruz was last nite, in a Chicago suburb
Cruz is no dummy
Trump held is rally in the city, what do you expect
Whats next?
A Trump rally in Harlem, sure , why not. LOL
Thanks for the Terp shout out. Tournament time, a game every day as long as you win. Go Terps :-)
Quote: terapinedWhy hold the Rally in Chicago?
In the city????????
Republican presidential rallies are never ever held in the city
Its always in the suburbs
That's where Cruz was last nite, in a Chicago suburb
Cruz is no dummy
Trump held is rally in the city, what do you expect
Whats next?
A Trump rally in Harlem, sure , why not. LOL
You've speculated that Trump did it on purpose. Could be. Who knows what goes through his mind? Maybe he even planted the people on the other side to cause the threat of violence. He is devious...
I saw a diverse crowd peacefully protesting with a few "bad eggs" (is that racially coded language?) trying to cause problems. The majority of people seemed to represent many walks of life and were there against Trump but not to shut him down. Too many "bad eggs" spoiled the day.
Why shouldn't he rally in the city? He is trying to be President of the United States, not President of the Really Nice Areas. Besides, and I have seen some bad places in Chicago, this area did not seem particularly bad in any way to me. Perhaps it is; it just did not look like it to me.
No, it is not Trump's fault (assuming that the things in the first sentence are not true). That is blaming the victim. I thought we didn't like that kind of stuff...
Quote: terapinedThanks for the Terp shout out. Tournament time, a game every day as long as you win. Go Terps :-)
They are a maddening team this year. So much promise and just not getting it done day in and day out. They were good last night.
I have two kids attending there now and we've had season football tickets since 1990 or so. My son actually had a class last year with Lonnie Baxter. Anyway, we've seen a lot of Terps sports and this was the most promising team in a long time...we will see how they do!!
Quote: RonCA "thug" is a "thug"...it is not "coded racial language" to call a group of people who try to incite riots--who cares about what they look like--"thugs"...
We will have to agree to disagree.
Thug has become an acceptable way of using the "n" word in the 21st century.
That's how I see it. That's how many people see it. Even if you disagree with it, you know that many people feel that way.
The fact that Trump included "thugs" in his tweet shows just how divisive and racist he wants to be. It's disgusting.
Quote: ams288We will have to agree to disagree.
Pretty much the norm!
Cheers!
Quote: ams288We will have to agree to disagree.
Thug has become an acceptable way of using the "n" word in the 21st century.
That's how I see it. That's how many people see it. Even if you disagree with it, you know that many people feel that way.
The fact that Trump included "thugs" in his tweet shows just how divisive and racist he wants to be. It's disgusting.
So you agree Michael Brown could have done all the same things successful liberals have done if he just wouldn't have become a "thug". I use the word because that he appeared to be when he strong armed the shopkeeper. Or is that racist to say? Maybe I should call him a unifier because he got the shopkeeper to agree to his way.
Or was the Gentle Giant was of those people that liberals look down upon because they could never make it without government help?
Quote: steeldcoMaybe somewhat boring but at least he has exhibited an intelligent, level headed, personality and approach. I shudder to think that our choice would be either Trump or Clinton. Terrible. Neither is worth my vote, although I would consider Trump the slightly less evil choice. Maybe Bloomberg will jump in? Anybody but Trump or Clinton, and yes, I would vote for Kasich.
Totally agree about the absurdity of a Clinton vs Trump ballot. I can't see myself voting for either. Trumps business acumen may make him seem like the lesser of two evils, but I just think he's a horrible human being and a hothead.
Alert: Possible confirmation bias.Quote: MichaelBluejayIt's not a coincidence that those making ridiculous assertions like this frequently can't spell three-letter words. I've noticed this in the comments section of newspaper articles, too: The crazier the proclamations, the more likely they are to be misspelled. Which is precisely the correlation you'd expect.
Quote: terapinedWhy hold the Rally in Chicago?
In the city????????
Republican presidential rallies are never ever held in the city
For once I agree! Silly Trump thinking he has a chance in Chicago, which 80 years of liberalism has ruined. He is lucky he wasn't shot by a "thug", like 18.73 others will this week there. Hell I even blame the failure of the Cubs as a direct result of liberalism in the city.
