Tipping Inside Casinos (always an interesting subject).

Quote: joenunz

Oh, so THAT'S the reason to not piss off food servers before they serve.

When is the right time to piss them off? When they bring the check?

I'm glad you don't play table games, because you are one of those black clouds that rain all over a good time at a blackjack table...

Again, reaching for straws. You're doing the same thing Obama and his crew does when they don't like something that's said on FNC. I never said I'm going to piss the server off regardless. If you're unhappy with what they did or didn't do you and they remain arrogant about it, you wait until after your food is served to do your thing. that consists of either a verbal bashing, a stiff on the tip, or both.

You're probably right, I would likely be an outcast at the BJ table because I would be the only one who would never tip. I think I'll try it out on my next visit. Sounds like fun!

My biggest problem is why should I tip a dealer that just flat out doesn't care if I win or lose. I have noticed that if I haven't tipped after a big win in BJ they give me the evil eye. But, it wasn't them risking their money it was I. Of course when they bust me they sometimes smirk. Why should I tip them then? So they can cheer up and put on a fake smile bought with a toke? There have been occasions in which I've had bad runs and have been chipped away to my last five dollars. If I leave the table with that five bucks they give me a mean look like I should have gave them my last five as a tip! Heartless! Besides I am there to make money and have fun.

I see no problem with Logan's comment about the wait staff. You really don't want to piss off wait staff at a restaurant, or any person who provides you with a service (such as a mechanic), because you really never know whether they are going to go over the top or not and do something stupid (like spit on your food or mess up something else in your car). You hope that your service personnel are going to be professional but when you run into a 18 year old server, you never know how immature they are going to be.



Of course, Jerry, you complete discount yourself when you bring politics into the forum. Your comment about Obama on FNC, really?

Last night, I ran into a snarly switch dealer who asked me why I was playing this game, and that he would never play in a casino. I stayed for a few minutes and won some hands, but left because it was absolutely unenjoyable. Even if I won $1,000 at that table, there would be no tip. What's sad is that his tips are based on everyone else's. Whereas at the Craps table, 4 hardways bet of $1 for the dealers for excellent service gave them $20 in tips when two of them hit.

When you tip, it should be based on the quality of service only. In Ontario, they've introduced a bill that would eliminate the mandatory tip for large parties (exceptions are banquets).

Just like anyone in life, there are people who are grateful for everything that they have in life and there are those who expect everything for nothing. I find that there is a decent correlation between age and expectations.

Quote: JerryLogan

Again, reaching for straws. You're doing the same thing Obama and his crew does when they don't like something that's said on FNC. I never said I'm going to piss the server off regardless. If you're unhappy with what they did or didn't do you and they remain arrogant about it, you wait until after your food is served to do your thing. that consists of either a verbal bashing, a stiff on the tip, or both.

You're probably right, I would likely be an outcast at the BJ table because I would be the only one who would never tip. I think I'll try it out on my next visit. Sounds like fun!

Whoa...

You start a thread asking people for their opinion on tipping and proceed to imply that those who tip dealers or slot attendants are suckers. And it sure sounded to me that you are just waiting for a reason to "bash" food servers.

I agree that there are many inconsistencies in "tipping protocol" - especially in casinos. And I NEVER have a problem with someone who doesn't tip - *especially* if they don't think they received proper service.

But this isn't about tipping...over the last seven pages you have called housekeeping workers "grunts", railed about people hanging out in Wal-Mart parking lots, told us you could use tip money to buy groceries and food for your family (that was my favorite!) and somehow folded an Obama rant into this.

You seem angry...not sure what you're angry about, but something's got your goat...

I'm going to the $10 blackjack table hoping for some 11s to double on, a cold beer ($2 bucks to the waitress!) and some laughs with like-minded people.

Go sit at the slot machine by yourself Jerry, pissed off at the world. I won't miss ya!

Quote: joenunz

Whoa...

You start a thread asking people for their opinion on tipping and proceed to imply that those who tip dealers or slot attendants are suckers. And it sure sounded to me that you are just waiting for a reason to "bash" food servers.

I agree that there are many inconsistencies in "tipping protocol" - especially in casinos. And I NEVER have a problem with someone who doesn't tip - *especially* if they don't think they received proper service.

But this isn't about tipping...over the last seven pages you have called housekeeping workers "grunts", railed about people hanging out in Wal-Mart parking lots, told us you could use tip money to buy groceries and food for your family (that was my favorite!) and somehow folded an Obama rant into this.

You seem angry...not sure what you're angry about, but something's got your goat...

I'm going to the $10 blackjack table hoping for some 11s to double on, a cold beer ($2 bucks to the waitress!) and some laughs with like-minded people.

Go sit at the slot machine by yourself Jerry, pissed off at the world. I won't miss ya!

Yes I asked for opinions, and I did not exclude myself from contributing. It is YOU who seem angry that I did not do that.

I have nothing against food servers. That was simply an example.

Someone brought up that they tip housekeeping. My opinion was that anyone who tips those people gives into the pressure they see from the envelopes that are left in the rooms, because there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to leave money to people who are required to clean your room. That's why rooms are not free. Do you leave tips in your rental car because it was cleaned before you got it? People who yip housekeeping do it on one night stays also. Just as I see the slot player who is intimidated into handing over some cash for a hand-pay or the fool who gives the cashier a tip for cashing in a TITO or a handful of chips or cashing a check/cash advance or whatever, I see people who leave housekeeping tips as weak and totally uninformed. And yes, for every dollar I save on foolish tipping practices, I can buy food.

Don't be unnerved about Obama showing up. He's inserted his inexperience & stupidity into nearly every corner of our lives this past year. You should be used to it by now. Foreigners laugh at us for our ridiculous tipping culture. They also laugh at us for having elected the worst president one could ever imagine.

While it's a sad state that tipping has evolved into a 'customary' and 'expected' thing, I think we should be reminded what tips are.

First of all, it's an acronym: To Insure Propper Service.

You occasionally hear/read stories of a guy who tips a waiter at the start of a meal saying, "Keep my coffee cup full, and there will be more..." or something similar. That's not me, but it underscores the origin of tips.

Second, people in the service industry, I.E. those that depend upon tips, tend to be better tippers than the rest of the population, simply because they understand. And that usually holds true for former service industry people too.

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I tip waiters if the service was good. I tip better if the service was excellent.

I tip bell people $1 per bag for carrying my heavy bags, and saving me the trouble. If they are quick to arrive at my room, I give an extra buck.

I tip the valet so I don't have to park myself out in the boondocks.

If I'm staying more than one night, I'll leave a note for the housekeeper to not tuck in the top sheet and blanket. If she complies, then the tip is $3 per night. Otherwise, $1 per night.

A few years back, we went to Disney for a week, and took our niece with us. She was about 7. Each night, her dolls were arranged, but differently each day. After the second day, each day as we treked back to the hotel, we were excitedly talking about the possible arrangements she might have left them in. Hell, on the fourth and fifth day, our neice picked an item at a gift shop specifically because she wondered how the housekeeping person would incorproate it into her display. That housekeeper got $5 per night, and a note saying "Thanks for making Sarah's dolls feel at home."

I have tipped a cage clerk exactly once. Normally, for a 30 second transaction, I can't see myself tipping. However, when my wife won around $12,800 at Let It Ride a few years back, we went to a private room off the main cage, where we sat for about ten minutes while the clerk prepared TWO checks. (I don't remember why my wife wanted it broken into two checks.) $10,000 and $2,000, with the rest in cash. When we were done, we tipped her $20.

I don't play slots, but my wife does. I'm fairly certain she has never tipped for a hand pay.

I tip casino dealers, because they can make the game more enjoyable. I do NOT believe that the want gamblers to lose. I do not believe ANY casino floor worker wants the gambler to lose. It's just a fact that sooner or later, gamblers WILL lose, and that will pay the casino's expenses. Gamblers know that they are more likely to lose than to win. But to think that the dealer, or even the floor person, is rooting against the player, is absurd.

I tip poker dealers for almost every hand I win, primarily because it's customary to do so. The expected exception is if the pot is $10 or less, which is kinda rare. As such, poker dealers tend to get the most tips of any dealer. For whatever reason, poker dealers also tend to keep their tips, while in the rest of the casino, dealers pool tips.

I only play $1/$2 No Limit. Usually, the tip is only $1, unless the pot is particularly big. I have once goaded the player next to me to tip bigger. He got real lucky on the river and won well over $650 on one hand. (The pot was over $800, and $150 of it was his contribution.) He then tips $1. I say to him "Only a buck for that pot on a suck-out?" He laughed and threw in another $2. And he told me I was right.

I dunno, Jerry, I think you're just a misanthrope. It looks to me that you just like going on the internet to rant angrily.

Of course, I could be wrong about you, but I'm certain I'm not wrong about how you appear.

Jerry....sounds like you are unnerved about a lot of things...among them Obama, other people tipping and grunts.

Making fun of you and your paranoia is like shooting fish in a barrel...

Have a nice day!

Quote: joenunz

Jerry....sounds like you are unnerved about a lot of things...among them Obama, other people tipping and grunts.

Making fun of you and your paranoia is like shooting fish in a barrel...

Have a nice day!

I think you folks are just too embarrassed to admit how easily intimidated you are by varying situations when you go out in public. Self-confidence and self-respect are beautiful things.

And WHO likes OBAMA!?

Quote: JerryLogan

I think you folks are just too embarrassed to admit how easily intimidated you are by varying situations when you go out in public. Self-confidence and self-respect are beautiful things.

And WHO likes OBAMA!?

Really man, is this thread about Obama? Or about tipping?

And to think I thought I had self-confidence and self-respect...until the wise Jerry told me I have none since I leave a few bucks for housekeeping!

Keep supplying the material Jerry...like I said, fish in a barrel!