December 31st, 2025 at 2:55:25 PM
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I was in Las Vegas earlier this week and noticed that they had replaced the Push 22 side bet at Free Bet Blackjack with a progressive side bet. It pays out a jackpot for a 4-5-6-7 of diamonds or a portion of it for another suited 4-5-6-7, with fixed prizes for suited 22, colored 22, or another 22. I'm home now and don't quite remember the paytable for the fixed prizes, but I looked online and the Nevada Gaming Control Board describes four paytables.
I saw this progressive side bet at Horseshoe, Flamingo, Paris, and Planet Hollywood, and all of them had the same jackpot of about $210,000. I'm sure they're all linked. All the tables I saw were 8D H17, but the NGCB also says that the bet can be played with six or eight decks and whether the dealer can hit or stand on soft 17. It also says that the side bet costs $1, but at those casinos they were charging $5. There is jackpot sharing when multiple people at the same table play the side bet and the dealer gets a suited 4-5-6-7.
I didn't play this side bet when I was there. Did I miss out? Was that a high enough jackpot to be positive expected value?
| Result | Pay Table 1 | Pay Table 2 | Pay Table 3 | Pay Table 4 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Suited 4567 – Specific Suit | 100% of Jackpot | 100% of Jackpot | 100% of Jackpot | 100% of Jackpot |
| Suited 4567 – Other | 10% of Jackpot | 10% of Jackpot | 10% of Jackpot | 10% of Jackpot |
| Suited 22 | 50 to 1 | 50 to 1 | 30 to 1 | 40 to 1 |
| Colored 22 | 15 to 1 | 10 to 1 | 15 to 1 | 15 to 1 |
| Any 22 | 5 to 1 | 5 to 1 | 5 to 1 | 5 to 1 |
I saw this progressive side bet at Horseshoe, Flamingo, Paris, and Planet Hollywood, and all of them had the same jackpot of about $210,000. I'm sure they're all linked. All the tables I saw were 8D H17, but the NGCB also says that the bet can be played with six or eight decks and whether the dealer can hit or stand on soft 17. It also says that the side bet costs $1, but at those casinos they were charging $5. There is jackpot sharing when multiple people at the same table play the side bet and the dealer gets a suited 4-5-6-7.
I didn't play this side bet when I was there. Did I miss out? Was that a high enough jackpot to be positive expected value?
Lost this month's rent at the casino? Talk about an epic fail
December 31st, 2025 at 3:24:23 PM
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Quote: grossmyn...dealer gets a suited 4-5-6-7.
I didn't play this side bet when I was there. Did I miss out? Was that a high enough jackpot to be positive expected value?
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No. As I recall it has to be somewhere in the $800K area to be+EV off the top of the deck.
January 23rd, 2026 at 6:17:26 PM
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Okay I have figured out how to program the numbers myself and got these numbers for this progressive, given eight decks, dealer hits soft 17, a $5 wager, and the fixed prizes paid "for one" (despite the NGCB site saying "to one" because you don't get your original wager back on this bet). I figure those casinos must have been using Pay Table 1 since that is in the $800K area like Automatic Monkey said. These are for one person playing; because of the jackpot sharing, if two people are playing, the fair jackpot is twice as large, etc.
Here are the probabilities of the different outcomes
| Value | Pay Table 1 | Pay Table 2 | Pay Table 3 | Pay Table 4 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| HE at $210,000 | 27.3884% | 33.2266% | 34.0884% | 30.7384% |
| Fair Jackpot | $842,619.98 | $977,471.11 | $997,377.08 | $919,998.53 |
Here are the probabilities of the different outcomes
| Result | Probability |
|---|---|
| Specific 4567 | 0.000002 |
| Suited 4567 | 0.000005 |
| Suited 22 | 0.003350 |
| Colored 22 | 0.011676 |
| Any 22 | 0.058511 |
| Loser | 0.926456 |
Lost this month's rent at the casino? Talk about an epic fail
January 25th, 2026 at 12:23:27 AM
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I assume that everyone at the table who is playing the light will split any 10% or 100%?
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