BegoodJohnny44
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January 28th, 2023 at 10:39:05 AM permalink
Hello Wizzards
Recently I've been reading a book by frank kneeland on video poker . ive been trying to follow along to try and understand the math better but im a little stuck when i try to apply this equation to an 9/6 jacks or better with the royal at 6250 coin . the thing is that it takes 5 cents along with your initial wager so you can qualify for some must hit by progressives . how would i add that in to the return; does my work seem correct in the paragraph below and will taking an extra 5 cents hurt me in the long run.

(Cycle Length)x(amount played per hand)x(Hold) +(Royal Flush) =(Cost)

9/6 non progressive royal
33193 * \$2 * -0.802%+ \$2500= 1967.58428

Does this seem correct ?
Dieter
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January 28th, 2023 at 1:55:36 PM permalink
Not quite.

A progressive royal is not a must hit by type progressive.

As the paytable changes, the optimal sttategy changes.
As the top award on the paytable is progressive, it will change frequently, but usually by so small an amount that a full recalculation is not necessary.
If memory serves, it is practical to only recalculate strategy differences every hundred coins or so.

The calculator at https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/analyzer/ can accept wagers other than 5 coins and nonstandard paytables.

I know this doesn't answer the question asked, but it may provide useful insight to play, or serve as a point of reference when working out your own calculator.
May the cards fall in your favor.
BegoodJohnny44
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January 28th, 2023 at 2:28:38 PM permalink
Thank you for replying and yes i understand that a royal is not a must hit by, but besides the royal that stays stagnant at 2500.00 on 2.00; you have a mini,minor, major , and mega that are must hit by it just so happens that the 9/6 j.o.b is on there and qualifies as I've hit the mini and its a must hit by 20.00
Dieter
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January 28th, 2023 at 4:33:08 PM permalink
This sounds quite unusual.

2500/2 seems quite rich for a constant royal value, as does offering an additional mini/minor/major progressive series to be randomly awarded on video poker.

Is there any chance this is a slot machine masquerading as video poker, sort of like they have in Washington state or some places in Europe?
May the cards fall in your favor.
BegoodJohnny44
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January 28th, 2023 at 7:55:23 PM permalink
how would I be able to tell for sure?
rsactuary
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January 28th, 2023 at 8:15:41 PM permalink
Quote: BegoodJohnny44

how would I be able to tell for sure?

Tell us where you're playing, to start.

If in the US, does the screen show bingo numbers, by chance?
BegoodJohnny44
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January 28th, 2023 at 8:25:19 PM permalink
In Texas . No bingo numbers that I can see. I threw away a couple of winning hands like a High pair and received nothing .
rsactuary
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January 28th, 2023 at 8:36:28 PM permalink
Quote: BegoodJohnny44

In Texas . No bingo numbers that I can see. I threw away a couple of winning hands like a High pair and received nothing .

At a casino? There's only three, if I recall, and they are Native American casinos who only offer Class II gaming. You're playing bingo, not video poker. Your outcome is pre-determined.
BegoodJohnny44
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January 28th, 2023 at 8:45:17 PM permalink
Its not state ran .
bunch of "gamerooms" have wms and or Aristocrat machines that were probably stolen and most gamerooms down here are ran by folks who dont know much other than it makes them money.
Dieter
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January 29th, 2023 at 2:02:10 AM permalink
Quote: BegoodJohnny44

how would I be able to tell for sure?