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September 21st, 2020 at 6:59:57 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy


Label the rows A-E from top to bottom, and the columns 1-5 from left to right

Numbers in curly braces can be in any order

B1-D1 is {1 2 4}
C3-C5 is {3 4 5}
D4-D5 is {1 3}
E1-E3 is {2 4 5}

A1-A3 is {1 3 5} or {2 3 4}
A5-B5 is {1 4} or {2 3}
C2-D3 is {1 4 1} or {1 2 3}
D5-E5 is {1 5} or {2 4}

If A5-B5 is {4 1}, D5-E5 cannot be any valid pair
Therefore A5-B5 is {2 3} and D5-E5 is {1 5}, which means C5 = 4,
which mens C2-D3 cannot be {1 4 1}, so it must be {1 2 3}
C2 cannot be 3, so either D2 or D3 = 3, which means D4 cannot be 3,
which means D4 = 1 and D5 = 3
Since E1-E4 have 2, 3, 4, and 5 in them, E5 = 1, which means D5 = 5
Since D4 = 1, D2 and D3 cannot be 1, so C2 = 1
Since C2-C5 have 1, 3, 4, and 5 in them, C3 = 2
C4 cannot be 1, 2, 3, or 4, so it is 5, and C3 = 3
This means that A4-B4 are {2 4}, so B3 = 5
Also, since B2 = 4, B4 cannot be 4, so it is 2, and A4 = 4
B2 cannot be 1, 4, 5, or 2, so it is 3, and A5 = 2; also, B1 = 1, so D1 = 4
D3 cannot be 4, 1, 5, or 3, so it is 2, and D2 = 3
E3 cannot be 5, 3, 2, or 1, so it is 4, and A3 = 1
A2 cannot be 4, 1, 3, or 2, so it is 5, and A1 = 3, which means E1 = 5 and E2 = 2

Each row, from left to right:
3 5 1 4 2
1 4 5 2 3
2 1 3 5 4
4 3 2 1 5
5 2 4 3 1
The solution is unique


Correct!
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September 21st, 2020 at 8:36:29 PM permalink
There’s a new casino game that plays as follows.

It starts with a bin of 35 balls numbered 1-35. You pick one number and you win $100 if it’s drawn. Only one ball is ever drawn from the bin

Then there is a second drawing for which 2 x 32 balls are added to the bin. You pick a number 1-99 and win $100 if it’s drawn

Then there is a third drawing for which 3 x 32 balls are added to the bin. You pick a number 1-195 and win $100 if it’s drawn

And so on.

The drawings and ball additions continue for as long as you want to play. You get paid $100 for every win...no limit

If this game was priced fairly, how much would it cost to play it ?
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September 22nd, 2020 at 1:37:21 AM permalink
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September 22nd, 2020 at 6:28:09 AM permalink
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September 22nd, 2020 at 6:51:25 AM permalink
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That should be [/spoiler]
Speaking of which...

The expected return is is the sum over all positive integers n of 100 / ((4n + 2)^2 - 1).

I have a feeling this is a little above my math pay grade. I am still trying to figure out how the sum of the reciprocals of the squares is PI^2 / 6.

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September 22nd, 2020 at 7:10:57 AM permalink
Quote: Ace2

There’s a new casino game that plays as follows.

It starts with a bin of 35 balls numbered 1-35. You pick one number and you win $100 if it’s drawn. Only one ball is ever drawn from the bin

Then there is a second drawing for which 2 x 32 balls are added to the bin. You pick a number 1-99 and win $100 if it’s drawn

Then there is a third drawing for which 3 x 32 balls are added to the bin. You pick a number 1-195 and win $100 if it’s drawn

And so on.

The drawings and ball additions continue for as long as you want to play. You get paid $100 for every win...no limit

If this game was priced fairly, how much would it cost to play it ?



This looks like it’s the sum from N=1 to infinity of 100/(3+32N(N+1)/2). Wolfram alpha says that sums to 25/6(3pi -8). Or about $5.93654.
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September 22nd, 2020 at 8:02:09 AM permalink
Quote: unJon

This looks like it’s the sum from N=1 to infinity of 100/(3+32N(N+1)/2). Wolfram alpha says that sums to 25/6(3pi -8). Or about $5.93654.

That is the correct answer. However, “for full credit” I’d like to see an explanation why it’s the answer.
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September 22nd, 2020 at 9:49:55 AM permalink
Quote: Ace2

That is the correct answer. However, “for full credit” I’d like to see an explanation why it’s the answer.


As soon as I figure out how the sum over all positive integers n of 1 / ((4n + 2)^2 - 1) = (1 - 1/3 + 1/5 - 1/7 + ...) / 2 - 1/3, I'll let you know.
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September 22nd, 2020 at 12:03:20 PM permalink


An advertisement on TV for an injury law firm states...

"What can happen in 5 seconds? A driver can send a text message and drive blindly down the road for 300 feet. If you have been injured in those 5 seconds, call us at ..."

How fast would the driver mentioned in this TV ad have been going (in mph to the nearest tenth)?
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September 22nd, 2020 at 12:21:46 PM permalink
60^2 / 5 * 300 / 5,280 =~40.9 mph
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September 22nd, 2020 at 6:07:39 PM permalink
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60^2 / 5 * 300 / 5,280 =~40.9 mph


Correct!
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September 23rd, 2020 at 8:15:00 AM permalink
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As soon as I figure out how the sum over all positive integers n of 1 / ((4n + 2)^2 - 1) = (1 - 1/3 + 1/5 - 1/7 + ...) / 2 - 1/3, I'll let you know.

You’re on the right track.

π/4 = 1 - 1/3 + 1/5 - 1/7 ....

If you combine the terms in pairs, eliminating the negatives, you get 2/3 + 2/35 + 2/99 + 2/195...Then subtract the 2/3, then multiply by 50 to get:

100(1/35 + 1/99 + 1/195...) =
50(π/4 - 2/3) =~ $5.94
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September 23rd, 2020 at 9:26:46 AM permalink
Quote: Ace2

You’re on the right track.

π/4 = 1 - 1/3 + 1/5 - 1/7 ....

If you combine the terms in pairs, eliminating the negatives, you get 2/3 + 2/35 + 2/99 + 2/195...Then subtract the 2/3, then multiply by 50 to get:

100(1/35 + 1/99 + 1/195...) =
50(π/4 - 2/3) =~ $5.94


Got it.

The number of balls in the nth draw = 32 (1 + 2 + ... + n) + 3 = 32 n (n + 1) / 2 + 3 = 16 n^2 + 16 n + 3 = (4n + 2)^2 - 1
The probability of winning in the nth draw = 1 / (4n + 2)^2 - 1
The expected return is 100 x the sum of (1 / (4n + 2)^2 - 1) over all positive integers n
= 100 (1 / ((4n + 2)^2 - 1))
= 100 (1 / (6^2 - 1) + 1 / (10^2 - 1) + 1 / (14^2 - 1) + ...)
= 100 ((1/3 + 1 / (6^2 - 1) + 1 / (10^2 - 1) + 1 / (14^2 - 1) + ...) - 1/3)
= 100 ((2/3 + 2 / (6^2 - 1) + 2 / (10^2 - 1) + 2 / (14^2 - 1) + ...) / 2 - 1/3)
= 100 ((2/3 + 2 / (5 x 7) + 2 / (9 x 11) + 2 / (13 x 15) + ...) / 2 - 1/3)
= 100 (((1 - 1/3) + (1/5 - 1/7) + (1/9 - 1/11) + (1/13 - 1/15) + ...) / 2 - 1/3)
= 100 (PI/8 - 1/3)
= 25 PI / 2 - 100 / 3 = about 5.94


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September 23rd, 2020 at 12:49:32 PM permalink
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Wizard, if I still have any beers on my tab, you can give one to Ace2 - I learned at the last Spring Fling I went to that I just can't taste beers very well (they all taste like alcohol).



I'd be happy to enjoy a beer with either of you. Also, substitutions may be made for drinks of equal or lesser value ;-).
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September 23rd, 2020 at 12:55:25 PM permalink
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I'd be happy to enjoy a beer with either of you. Also, substitutions may be made for drinks of equal or lesser value ;-).

It will be fun talking about e, pi and Poisson. All women within a mile of the bar will evacuate
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September 23rd, 2020 at 4:36:35 PM permalink
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All women within a mile of the bar will evacuate



I am used to that. I like to say that I have a certain magnetism when it comes to the ladies. Unfortunately, it is the repelling kind.
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September 23rd, 2020 at 7:35:04 PM permalink
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I am used to that. I like to say that I have a certain magnetism when it comes to the ladies. Unfortunately, it is the repelling kind.



I would think your beard should help.

Especially, if you weave it into a net.
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In a two-dimensional world, A 5' ladder rests against the wall in an alley as well as touches the corner of a 1'x1' box, in which both one corner of the box fits into the corner of the ground and wall in the alley.

Find x.

In all fairness, a decimal representation to six decimal points is all that I ask.
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September 24th, 2020 at 7:14:32 AM permalink
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In a two-dimensional world, A 5' ladder rests against the wall in an alley as well as touches the corner of a 1'x1' box, in which both one corner of the box fits into the corner of the ground and wall in the alley.

Find x.

In all fairness, a decimal representation to six decimal points is all that I ask.




Label the vertices of the triangle A, B, C such that AB is the hypotenuse and AC is the vertical (i.e. AC has length X + 1).
Label the remaining vertices of the square D, E, F such that CDEF is the square (i.e. D is on AC, E is on AB, abd F is on BC).

ADE is similar to EFB, so BF/FE = ED / DA, which means BF = ED * FE / DA = 1 * 1 / X = 1 / X.
Pythagorean Theorem: (AB)^2 = (AC)^2 + (BC)^2
5^2 = (X + 1)^2 + ((X + 1) / X)^2
25 X^2 = X^2 (X + 1)^2 + (X + 1)^2 = (X^2 + 1) (X^2 + 2X + 1) = X^4 + 2 X^3 + 2 X^2 + 2 X + 1
X^4 + 2 X^3 - 23 X^2 + 2 X + 1 = 0

There is a "generic" solution for quartic equations, but I broke out LibreCalc and applied Newton-Raphson to get X = 0.227205.

I just realized...there are two possible answers; rotate the image 90% counterclockwise, then reflect it through the vertical axis.
The other answer = 1 / X = 3.838501

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September 24th, 2020 at 7:24:56 AM permalink
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Label the vertices of the triangle A, B, C such that AB is the hypotenuse and AC is the vertical (i.e. AC has length X + 1).
Label the remaining vertices of the square D, E, F such that CDEF is the square (i.e. D is on AC, E is on AB, abd F is on BC).

ADE is similar to EFB, so BF/FE = ED / DA, which means BF = ED * FE / DA = 1 * 1 / X = 1 / X.
Pythagorean Theorem: (AB)^2 = (AC)^2 + (BC)^2
5^2 = (X + 1)^2 + ((X + 1) / X)^2
25 X^2 = X^2 (X + 1)^2 + (X + 1)^2 = (X^2 + 1) (X^2 + 2X + 1) = X^4 + 2 X^3 + 2 X^2 + 2 X + 1
X^4 + 2 X^3 - 23 X^2 + 2 X + 1 = 0

There is a "generic" solution for quartic equations, but I broke out LibreCalc and applied Newton-Raphson to get X = 0.227205.

I just realized...there are two possible answers; rotate the image 90% counterclockwise, then reflect it through the vertical axis.
The other answer = 1 / X = 3.838501



I agree! Good point about there being two possible answers. I got to the same fourth-order equation and then used Excel's "goal seek" function to get a numeric answer.
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September 24th, 2020 at 10:03:09 AM permalink


In this age of covid, a small group of worshippers don masks and form a prayer circle on the lawn beside their church.



If 8 people stand in a circle with six feet of required social distance between them (along a chord):

1) What is the circumference of the circle?

2) What is the diameter of the circle?

3) How far in a straight line (chord) is Person A from Person C?

4) The prayer circle is formed on a square lawn measuring 25x25 feet. What is the maximum number of people who could stand in the circle and still be 6 feet apart?
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September 24th, 2020 at 12:41:04 PM permalink
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In this age of covid, a small group of worshippers don masks and form a prayer circle on the lawn beside their church.



If 8 people stand in a circle with six feet of required social distance between them (along a chord):

1) What is the circumference of the circle?

2) What is the diameter of the circle?

3) How far in a straight line (chord) is Person A from Person C?

4) The prayer circle is formed on a square lawn measuring 25x25 feet. What is the maximum number of people who could stand in the circle and still be 6 feet apart?



Been a while, so hopefully I'm thinking on the right lines.....

Since the chord between 2 people is 6, then the radius of circle will be 7.89ft (6/(2 sin(.39 radians))
1) C = 49.57ft
2) d = 15.78ft
3) AC cord = 11.15ft (2*7.89) sin(.785 radians)
4) 12 people at most.....if we went to 13 people then we would go slightly over the radius of 12.5.....12.62 would be the radius for 13 people
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September 24th, 2020 at 6:30:29 PM permalink

radius = 3/sin(22.5) = 7.839377789
1. 2*pi*radius = 6*pi/sin(22.5) = 49.2563
2. 2*radius = 6/sin(22.5) = 15.6788
3. sqrt(2)*radius = 3*sqrt(2)/sin(22.5) = 11.0866


If this are right, I'll think about #4.
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September 24th, 2020 at 7:08:34 PM permalink
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In this age of covid, a small group of worshippers don masks and form a prayer circle on the lawn beside their church.



If 8 people stand in a circle with six feet of required social distance between them (along a chord):

1) What is the circumference of the circle?

2) What is the diameter of the circle?

3) How far in a straight line (chord) is Person A from Person C?

4) The prayer circle is formed on a square lawn measuring 25x25 feet. What is the maximum number of people who could stand in the circle and still be 6 feet apart?




No 4



sinθ > 3/12.5
θ >13.8865
2θ > 27.773

Max people < 360/27.773
Max people < 12.962

Max people = 12


Again, I don't really understand what is "stand in the circle" .... I assumed stand along the circle circumference.

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September 24th, 2020 at 7:31:47 PM permalink
Quote: IAchance5

Been a while, so hopefully I'm thinking on the right lines.....

Since the chord between 2 people is 6, then the radius of circle will be 7.89ft (6/(2 sin(.39 radians))
1) C = 49.57ft
2) d = 15.78ft
3) AC cord = 11.15ft (2*7.89) sin(.785 radians)
4) 12 people at most.....if we went to 13 people then we would go slightly over the radius of 12.5.....12.62 would be the radius for 13 people


1) Very close
2) Very close
3) Very close
4) Correct!


Quote: Wizard


radius = 3/sin(22.5) = 7.839377789
1. 2*pi*radius = 6*pi/sin(22.5) = 49.2563
2. 2*radius = 6/sin(22.5) = 15.6788
3. sqrt(2)*radius = 3*sqrt(2)/sin(22.5) = 11.0866

If this are right, I'll think about #4.


1) Correct!
2) Correct!
3) Correct!


Quote: ssho88

No 4



sinθ > 3/12.5
θ >13.8865
2θ > 27.773

Max people < 360/27.773
Max people < 12.962

Max people = 12


Again, I don't really understand what is "stand in the circle" .... I assumed stand along the circle circumference.


4) Correct!
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September 24th, 2020 at 8:29:05 PM permalink
I "think" the answer to the 4th question might in be fact 13.
Call the worshipers A - M
With an odd number, there is nobody directly opposite A. Which means the people on the far side (#7=G & #8=H) are set in some from the opposite of the circle. i.e.

Assume the square is from y=+12.5 ft to -12.5 ft
Assume A is at the top border of the square (0,12.5)
With N=13, radius is r = 3/sin(.5*360/13) = 12.53574441 ft.

So center of circle would be at (0,-0.0357441)

The (horizontal) cord between the 7th person (G) and 8th person (H) is a distance of r * cos(.5*360/13) = 12.17147846 below the center of the circle at y=-12.20722256 ft. ...(from x = +3ft to -3ft for G & H respectively)

Thus G & H are still on the square lawn, even though the imaginary circle they are standing on (diameter = 2*12.5357441 = 25.07148882) extends out of the square.

If they hold hands along the cord (which seems likely), I think 13 fit entirely on the lawn.
If their arms curve along the circle, they are all standing on the lawn, but their arms would extend to an area above the boundary.....which I might argue the prayer "circle" is still standing in the square lawn.

Only if you need to paint the entire circle on the lawn so they know where to stand do you get limited to 12

14 still doesn't seem to work
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September 25th, 2020 at 5:13:34 AM permalink


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September 25th, 2020 at 6:09:22 AM permalink
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4) The prayer circle is formed on a square lawn measuring 25x25 feet. What is the maximum number of people who could stand in the circle and still be 6 feet apart?



I'm also confused by what is being asked of #4. Must the worshippers stand on the circumference of a circle? May they stand inside of it? Why mention a square, can't you just say the diameter of the circle is 25 feet?
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September 25th, 2020 at 9:25:22 AM permalink
You put $1 in a bank account at a fixed interest rate of 10%, compounded monthly. Over an infinite period of time, what ratio of the time will the balance start with a 1?
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September 25th, 2020 at 10:03:24 AM permalink
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You put $1 in a bank account at a fixed interest rate of 10%, compounded monthly. Over an infinite period of time, what ratio of the time will the balance start with a 1?

I guess log(2) =~ 30.1%
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September 25th, 2020 at 10:25:31 AM permalink
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You put $1 in a bank account at a fixed interest rate of 10%, compounded monthly. Over an infinite period of time, what ratio of the time will the balance start with a 1?



This is one of the ways they catch accounting fraud.
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September 25th, 2020 at 1:05:17 PM permalink
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You put $1 in a bank account at a fixed interest rate of 10%, compounded monthly. Over an infinite period of time, what ratio of the time will the balance start with a 1?



Let I be the "interest multiplier" - the amount you multiply the principle by each compounding term.

If it takes A terms to get from 10^k to 2 x 10^k, then (10^k) x (I^A) = 2 x 10^k
I^A = 2
A log I =log 2
A = log 2 / log I

If it takes B terms to get from 2 x 10^k to 10^(k + 1), then (2 x 10^k) x (I^B) = 10 x 10^k
I^B = 5
B = log 5 / log I

The ratio is log 2 / (log 2 + log 5); using base 10 logarithms, log10 2 + log10 5 = 1, so the ratio is log10 2 = about 0.30103

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September 25th, 2020 at 2:02:15 PM permalink
Quote: Ace2

I guess log(2) =~ 30.1%



Quote: ThatDonGuy


Let I be the "interest multiplier" - the amount you multiply the principle by each compounding term.

If it takes A terms to get from 10^k to 2 x 10^k, then (10^k) x (I^A) = 2 x 10^k
I^A = 2
A log I =log 2
A = log 2 / log I

If it takes B terms to get from 2 x 10^k to 10^(k + 1), then (2 x 10^k) x (I^B) = 10 x 10^k
I^B = 5
B = log 5 / log I

The ratio is log 2 / (log 2 + log 5); using base 10 logarithms, log10 2 + log10 5 = 1, so the ratio is log10 2 = about 0.30103



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September 26th, 2020 at 10:00:04 AM permalink
f(x) is probability density function.

Mean = Integra[ x *f(x) dx] ?
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September 27th, 2020 at 2:59:22 PM permalink


Another table game designer consults you for your math skills. This one is working on a casino version of the popular bar game "Ship, Captain & Crew".

SCC is played with five standard dice. A player gets three rolls to score points. Before points can be scored, however, the player must first roll a ship (6), captain (5) and a crew (4), and they must be rolled in that specific order (or simultaneously).

For example, if the player started with a roll of 6, 4, 3, 2, 2 the player would set aside the 6 (ship) and re roll the other four dice. The player could not keep the 4 (crew) because he doesn't have a captain (5) yet. If the next roll was a 6, 5, 4, 4 the player would then set aside the 5 and, since he now has a captain, one of the 4s as his crew. The remaining dice (6, 4) would become his cargo with a point total of 10.

The designer envisions a craps like game with all players betting on a single shooter's three rolls. Although he has many side bet ideas, to get started he needs to work out the main (sort of pass line) bet.

What is the probability that a shooter (using the SCC nestled conditions rules) will get a 6, 5 and 4 in three rolls?



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September 27th, 2020 at 5:41:56 PM permalink


R1 R2 R3 Pr (1) Pr(2) Pr(3) Total

654 --- --- 0.0046 1.0000 1.0000 0.0046
--- 654 --- 0.4019 0.0046 1.0000 0.0019
--- --- 654 0.4019 0.4019 0.0046 0.0007
65 4 --- 0.0161 0.1667 1.0000 0.0027
65 --- 4 0.0161 0.5787 0.1667 0.0016
--- 65 4 0.1317 0.0161 0.1667 0.0004
6 54 --- 0.0329 0.0278 1.0000 0.0009
6 --- 54 0.0329 0.4823 0.0278 0.0004
--- 6 54 0.4019 0.0329 0.0278 0.0004
6 5 4 0.0329 0.0965 0.1667 0.0005
0.0141 total

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September 27th, 2020 at 6:22:05 PM permalink
Answer deleted - I missed the part about setting aside dice, and was rolling 5 dice with every roll

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September 27th, 2020 at 6:25:43 PM permalink
I think I forgot some combinatorics in my calculations. I knew it was too low.
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September 27th, 2020 at 7:02:06 PM permalink
Yeah, too low. This is a toughie for the weekend. To be honest, it probably shouldn't be on the easy thread.
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September 27th, 2020 at 9:55:34 PM permalink
Rather than look at states just look at all the ways to get there and how many of 7776 ways to throw five dice results in the required outcome.
For instance initially throwing 5 dice, you can get
6-only : 2101
6 and 5: 1320
6 5 and 4 : 1230
miss : 3125
Rinse and repeat for using four dice trying to get 5 4 and three dice to get 4.

Work out all ways to get passes and fails, check it adds up to 77763.
Pass = 253 888 187 826
Fail = 216 296 796 750
Pr Pass = 53.9975%
OutcomeRoll 1Roll 2Roll 3Perms 1Perms 2Perms 3Perms
Pass6 5 4anyany
1 230
7 776
7 776
74 373 396 480
Pass6 54any
1 320
3 276
7 776
33 625 912 320
Pass6 5miss4
1 320
4 500
3 276
19 459 440 000
Pass65 4any
2 101
1 812
7 776
29 603 325 312
Pass6miss5 4
2 101
3 750
1 812
14 276 295 000
Pass654
2 101
2 214
3 276
15 238 687 464
Passmiss6 5 4any
3 125
1 230
7 776
29 889 000 000
Passmiss6 54
3 125
1 320
3 276
13 513 500 000
Passmiss65 4
3 125
2 101
1 812
11 896 912 500
Passmissmiss6 5 4
3 125
3 125
1 230
12 011 718 750
Total Pass
0
0
0
253 888 187 826
Fail6 5missmiss
1 320
4 500
4 500
26 730 000 000
Fail65miss
2 101
2 214
4 500
20 932 263 000
Fail6miss5
2 101
3 750
2 214
17 443 552 500
Fail6missmiss
2 101
3 750
3 750
29 545 312 500
Failmiss6 5miss
3 125
1 320
4 500
18 562 500 000
Failmiss65
3 125
2 101
2 214
14 536 293 750
Failmiss6miss
3 125
2 101
3 750
24 621 093 750
Failmissmiss6 5
3 125
3 125
1 320
12 890 625 000
Failmissmiss6
3 125
3 125
2 101
20 517 578 125
Failmissmissmiss
3 125
3 125
3 125
30 517 578 125
Total FAIL
0
0
0
216 296 796 750

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September 28th, 2020 at 7:10:31 AM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

Rather than look at states just look at all the ways to get there and how many of 7776 ways to throw five dice results in the required outcome.
For instance initially throwing 5 dice, you can get
6-only : 2101
6 and 5: 1320
6 5 and 4 : 1230
miss : 3125
Rinse and repeat for using four dice trying to get 5 4 and three dice to get 4.

Work out all ways to get passes and fails, check it adds up to 77763.
Pass = 253 888 187 826
Fail = 216 296 796 750
Pr Pass = 53.9975%
OutcomeRoll 1Roll 2Roll 3Perms 1Perms 2Perms 3Perms
Pass6 5 4anyany
1 230
7 776
7 776
74 373 396 480
Pass6 54any
1 320
3 276
7 776
33 625 912 320
Pass6 5miss4
1 320
4 500
3 276
19 459 440 000
Pass65 4any
2 101
1 812
7 776
29 603 325 312
Pass6miss5 4
2 101
3 750
1 812
14 276 295 000
Pass654
2 101
2 214
3 276
15 238 687 464
Passmiss6 5 4any
3 125
1 230
7 776
29 889 000 000
Passmiss6 54
3 125
1 320
3 276
13 513 500 000
Passmiss65 4
3 125
2 101
1 812
11 896 912 500
Passmissmiss6 5 4
3 125
3 125
1 230
12 011 718 750
Total Pass
0
0
0
253 888 187 826
Fail6 5missmiss
1 320
4 500
4 500
26 730 000 000
Fail65miss
2 101
2 214
4 500
20 932 263 000
Fail6miss5
2 101
3 750
2 214
17 443 552 500
Fail6missmiss
2 101
3 750
3 750
29 545 312 500
Failmiss6 5miss
3 125
1 320
4 500
18 562 500 000
Failmiss65
3 125
2 101
2 214
14 536 293 750
Failmiss6miss
3 125
2 101
3 750
24 621 093 750
Failmissmiss6 5
3 125
3 125
1 320
12 890 625 000
Failmissmiss6
3 125
3 125
2 101
20 517 578 125
Failmissmissmiss
3 125
3 125
3 125
30 517 578 125
Total FAIL
0
0
0
216 296 796 750


Correct! Very good.

So, to make this bar game work in a casino, some of the lower value cargos would have to count as losses.

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September 28th, 2020 at 8:15:10 AM permalink
Here's an easy one for Monday...



You are entering amounts in the check register but forgot to write down who received them.

If the optometrist got a check for $20.20, what person (1 - 12) received a check in each of the amounts listed (a - n)?

1. calendar vendor
2. casino worker
3. deer hunter
4. electrician
5. golf instructor
6. history teacher
7. IRS agent.
8. jet pilot.
9. mathematician
10. paramedic
11. piano tuner
12. soap maker.

a. $.18
b. $.88
c. $1.20
d. $3.14
e. $3.65
f. $7.11
g. $7.47
h. $9.11
i. $10.40
j. $14.92
m. $30.30
n. $99.44
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September 28th, 2020 at 9:10:37 AM permalink
No Interest Theory formulas needed.....

1. calendar vendor $3.65 (days)
2. casino worker $7.11 (always open)
3. deer hunter $30.30 (shotgun)
4. electrician $1.20 (volts)
5. golf instructor $.18 (holes)
6. history teacher $14.92 (Columbus)
7. IRS agent. $10.40 (form)
8. jet pilot. $7.47 (plane)
9. mathematician $3.14 (Pi)
10. paramedic $9.11 (emergency)
11. piano tuner $.88 (keys)
12. soap maker. $99.44 (ivory pure)
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1. calendar vendor --> e. $3.65
2. casino worker -----> f. $7.11
3. deer hunter ------> m. $30.30*
4. electrician -------> c. $1.20
5. golf instructor ---> a. $.18
6. history teacher --> j. $14.92
7. IRS agent. -------> i. $10.40
8. jet pilot. ---------> g. $7.47
9. mathematician --> d. $3.14
10. paramedic -----> h. $9.11
11. piano tuner ----> b. $.88
12. soap maker ----> n. $99.44

* You should have paid him $30.06 -- you'd have literally gotten more bang for your buck!
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Quote: IAchance5

No Interest Theory formulas needed.....

1. calendar vendor $3.65 (days)
2. casino worker $7.11 (always open)
3. deer hunter $30.30 (shotgun)
4. electrician $1.20 (volts)
5. golf instructor $.18 (holes)
6. history teacher $14.92 (Columbus)
7. IRS agent. $10.40 (form)
8. jet pilot. $7.47 (plane)
9. mathematician $3.14 (Pi)
10. paramedic $9.11 (emergency)
11. piano tuner $.88 (keys)
12. soap maker. $99.44 (ivory pure)


Quote: Joeman



1. calendar vendor --> e. $3.65
2. casino worker -----> f. $7.11
3. deer hunter ------> m. $30.30*
4. electrician -------> c. $1.20
5. golf instructor ---> a. $.18
6. history teacher --> j. $14.92
7. IRS agent. -------> i. $10.40
8. jet pilot. ---------> g. $7.47
9. mathematician --> d. $3.14
10. paramedic -----> h. $9.11
11. piano tuner ----> b. $.88
12. soap maker ----> n. $99.44

* You should have paid him $30.06 -- you'd have literally gotten more bang for your buck!


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Quote: Gialmere

I asked my girlfriend what sort of books she's interested in.

She said check books.


I can't be overdrawn; I still have checks in my checkbook!
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0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9


The object of this puzzle is to write a ten-digit number beneath the digits above using the following criteria...

The digit you place below the 0 is both the first digit of the number and also tells how many 0s are in the number.

The digit you place below the 1 is both the second digit of the number and also tells how many 1s are in the number. And so on to the digit below the 9 which is both the last digit of the number and tells how many 9s the number contains.

For example, if you place a 2 beneath the 0, you are saying that the number will be 2 billion something, that the number will contain two 0s and that the digit you place below the 2 will be 1 or more since the number now contains a 2.

You may use a given digit (including 0) as many times as you wish, or not at all.

What is the unique ten-digit number?


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The digits must add up to 10. Thus:

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
6 2 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
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There are a large number of zeroes, say N, so N is the first digit. There is (probably) only one of those (otherwise there would be more than 10 digits in the number), so there is a 1 under N. There is now at least one "1", so there is a number under 1, however it can't be 1 (as there would now be two of them), so it has to be 2 and a "1" under 2. From this there are six zeroes so the leading digit is 6.

6 2 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
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Quote: gordonm888


The digits must add up to 10. Thus:

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
6 2 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0


Quote: charliepatrick

There are a large number of zeroes, say N, so N is the first digit. There is (probably) only one of those (otherwise there would be more than 10 digits in the number), so there is a 1 under N. There is now at least one "1", so there is a number under 1, however it can't be 1 (as there would now be two of them), so it has to be 2 and a "1" under 2. From this there are six zeroes so the leading digit is 6.

6 2 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0


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