Full ring poker probability
Quote: vpbob2000In a 9 handed full ring hold'em game, what are the odds of flopping a set against flopped quads?
Given that one player has flopped quads, there is only one card available for the other player (who, presumably, has a pocket pair). There are 46 possible cards that could appear as that third card, and two of them give the other player a set. So, 1 in 23.
Quote: rdw4potus100% if the quads don't include a pocket pair.
Doesn't a set imply a pocket pair, whereas trips implies a single card matched with a pair on the flop?
Quote: thecesspitDoesn't a set imply a pocket pair, whereas trips implies a single card matched with a pair on the flop?
I use the terms interchangeably.
Quote: AyecarumbaI use the terms interchangeably.
I used to, until I was told by a couple of players in no uncertain terms that a "set" was specifically three of a kind using a pocket pair.
It makes sense to dintinguish the terms, since a "set" is well concealed, whereas "trips" are not.
Quote: mkl654321Given that one player has flopped quads, there is only one card available for the other player (who, presumably, has a pocket pair). There are 46 possible cards that could appear as that third card, and two of them give the other player a set. So, 1 in 23.
I think the OP intended to ask, "What are the odds of these two things happening simultaneously?":
1- Two players are dealt pocket pairs.
2 - The flop contains a pair matching one player's hold cards; and a singleton, matching the other player's hole cards.
Quote: mkl654321I used to, until I was told by a couple of players in no uncertain terms that a "set" was specifically three of a kind using a pocket pair.
It makes sense to dintinguish the terms, since a "set" is well concealed, whereas "trips" are not.
Thanks mkl! I'll have to ask about this at my local card room. I think this would be a good poll question. I'll set it up.
Quote: AyecarumbaI think the OP intended to ask, "What are the odds of these two things happening simultaneously?":
1- Two players are dealt pocket pairs.
2 - The flop contains a pair matching one player's hold cards; and a singleton, matching the other player's hole cards.
Exactly. Sorry for the confusion. I think I'm approximating the answer, and that the answer depends on how many players see the flop. The more players who see the flop, the greater the chance of this event (after the flop, one player at the table holds a full house while another holds quads).
