September 7th, 2010 at 10:54:31 PM
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Is it possible to place a roulette wager that will break even every time regardless of what number hits?
September 7th, 2010 at 11:01:13 PM
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No. Are you just looking to get free spins or something? Ken
September 8th, 2010 at 5:01:30 AM
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Quote: starbuckinghamIs it possible to place a roulette wager that will break even every time regardless of what number hits?
Sure. Bet $0 on red.
"When two people always agree one of them is unnecessary"
September 8th, 2010 at 8:50:02 PM
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I just want to get the slot club points. I could bet $8 on red $8 on black and $1 on 0-00, but I still lose $1 unless the 0-00 shows.
September 9th, 2010 at 7:17:48 AM
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If you do that, the pit boss will probably lower your ranking, so you wouldn't earn the slot point you're looking for.Quote: starbuckinghamI just want to get the slot club points. I could bet $8 on red $8 on black and $1 on 0-00, but I still lose $1 unless the 0-00 shows.
In addition, you'd be below the table minimums - unless you're at a $1 table (Do such tables exist?)
FYI: The table minimum applies separately to each outside bet, and to the total of your inside bets.
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September 9th, 2010 at 11:42:44 AM
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It's a video roulette system and the min. bet is $1
September 9th, 2010 at 11:59:27 AM
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Quote: starbuckinghamIt's a video roulette system and the min. bet is $1
There is no break even combination of bets on a roulette wheel. If there was, the casino wouldn't make a profit (imagine if the players seperately made a break even set of bets... the house would win nothing and have no incentive to run the game).
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
September 9th, 2010 at 11:59:53 AM
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If you are just looking to accumulate slot points, make sure that the Roulette machine you are playing accumulates points at the rate you expect. I suspect that the single zero roulette machines are treated the same as VP machines (which earn points at a lower rate than regular slots). You also need to make sure you are playing a single zero machine.
Given that you really want the points, and you have found a single zero machine that earns points at an acceptable rate, my advice would be to take 1/10th of your bankroll and place 1/2 on Red, 1/2 on Black and just gamble that the zero won't come up. So, if you have $100 you would place $5 on Red, $5 on Black and just take your chances with zero.
You will have a slight variance, but your $100 can withstand 10 zeros coming up. Your "expectation" is that you will place 370 bets in action ($3,700) before you tap out your $100. But, who knows? You might get to $10K before you tap out. You could also tap out in the first 10 spins (although, highly unlikely). What you are essentially doing is playing a 97.3% return slot machine with a ridiculously low variance in order to just earn slot points.
You could just cover all of the numbers with the table minimum ($.50?), but unless you have the BR to suffer a certain loss of $.50/spin before you earn enough slot points, I think this is a bad idea.
No way around the fact you will have to gamble a bit.
Given that you really want the points, and you have found a single zero machine that earns points at an acceptable rate, my advice would be to take 1/10th of your bankroll and place 1/2 on Red, 1/2 on Black and just gamble that the zero won't come up. So, if you have $100 you would place $5 on Red, $5 on Black and just take your chances with zero.
You will have a slight variance, but your $100 can withstand 10 zeros coming up. Your "expectation" is that you will place 370 bets in action ($3,700) before you tap out your $100. But, who knows? You might get to $10K before you tap out. You could also tap out in the first 10 spins (although, highly unlikely). What you are essentially doing is playing a 97.3% return slot machine with a ridiculously low variance in order to just earn slot points.
You could just cover all of the numbers with the table minimum ($.50?), but unless you have the BR to suffer a certain loss of $.50/spin before you earn enough slot points, I think this is a bad idea.
No way around the fact you will have to gamble a bit.
Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future. - Niels Bohr
September 9th, 2010 at 2:59:19 PM
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Quote: starbuckinghamIs it possible to place a roulette wager that will break even every time regardless of what number hits?
No. But there is a way to acquire a restaurant - see MRtripleJ 's posts.
You can't trust a dog to mind your food.
September 12th, 2010 at 11:54:37 AM
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"But there is a way to acquire a restaurant - see MRtripleJ 's posts" >>> I win and you dont sucka, them tha breaks! lol Ken
September 12th, 2010 at 11:58:24 AM
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Quote: starbuckinghamIs it possible to place a roulette wager that will break even every time regardless of what number hits?
No, in the same sense that it is impossible to achieve immortality or to negate gravity.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
September 12th, 2010 at 12:54:17 PM
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Quote: mkl654321or to negate gravity.
I have two words for you: Dark Energy :)
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September 12th, 2010 at 1:15:04 PM
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I'll have to Google that. Ken
September 12th, 2010 at 3:47:26 PM
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Quote: mrjjj"But there is a way to acquire a restaurant - see MRtripleJ 's posts" >>> I win and you dont sucka, them tha breaks! lol Ken
Quit while you are ahead.
You can't trust a dog to mind your food.
September 12th, 2010 at 9:48:06 PM
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"Quit while you are ahead" >>> Thanks for the free advice! Ken
September 12th, 2010 at 10:05:19 PM
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Quote: chookQuit while you are ahead.
It's too late for him to quit while he's ahead--he's behind. He's $70,000 in hock thanks to his roulette "system" and is about to lose his restaurant, because every week he runs down to the casino with the receipts. He's hoping to get someone to buy his roulette system, apparently not realizing that this site is probably the LAST place to find such a sucker.
Of course, anyone who actually HAD a winning gambling system would keep his mouth hermetically sealed shut, rather than bragging about it on a public Internet forum.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
September 15th, 2010 at 10:13:13 AM
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A couple questions, one of which you have STILL not answered. What is your method of choice for roulette? I would like to start some testing on it, thanks! Where did you get 70K from? lol Is this the part where I get real nervous or something? 70K came from.....? They are methods, not systems.
"He's hoping to get someone to BUY his roulette system" >>> Could you show ALL OF US the PM or email or my site address, regarding myself selling something? You dig yourself more and more into a hole and you dont care regarding how you look to the other members here, kind of sad.
"anyone who actually HAD a winning gambling system would keep his mouth hermetically sealed shut, rather than bragging about it on a public Internet forum" >>> Number one, I'm not bragging. I win and you dont. Whats the big deal? You're a quitter mkl, you GAVE UP long ago. Number two, as I have already posted, I have TWO methods NOT posted, never will. Keep trying coolbreeze, you will never be at my status. ROFL I asked a few questions on this post, lets just see how many of these questions mkl answers. Ken
"He's hoping to get someone to BUY his roulette system" >>> Could you show ALL OF US the PM or email or my site address, regarding myself selling something? You dig yourself more and more into a hole and you dont care regarding how you look to the other members here, kind of sad.
"anyone who actually HAD a winning gambling system would keep his mouth hermetically sealed shut, rather than bragging about it on a public Internet forum" >>> Number one, I'm not bragging. I win and you dont. Whats the big deal? You're a quitter mkl, you GAVE UP long ago. Number two, as I have already posted, I have TWO methods NOT posted, never will. Keep trying coolbreeze, you will never be at my status. ROFL I asked a few questions on this post, lets just see how many of these questions mkl answers. Ken
September 15th, 2010 at 11:20:04 AM
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Ken- maybe you have answered this already, but why don't you essentially give up working and just make money playing roulette? I don't recall what you do for a living, but do you, on average, make more per hour working or 'rouletteing'? I know if I could actually make enough in a casino to exceed my work pay, you would never find me at work again.
September 15th, 2010 at 11:44:01 AM
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Yes I did answer but I'll do so again, no problem sir. #1 Tax reasons. If (thats a big if) I only made money from roulette, what do I list as an income? #2 I have the restaurant (half owner) for listing an ASSET for a future venture I will most likely will get into. Dont ask what it is cause I won't answer. Anyways, I need an asset to list, something of value. My 'plan' as of now (knock on wood) is to do the restaurant thing for 2-3 years max, then get out. My partner/friend has no idea of my plan. I also have another business, commercial cleaning (also an asset). Been doing that for 17 years and with the SAME clients for a long time. The money in that is VERY good and NO SKILLS needed. lol Ken