NateB
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April 5th, 2010 at 1:41:41 AM permalink
In the state of Oklahoma, we have a lot of indian casinos. I have recently started playing their table games.
One game in particular interest me that being Ultimate Texas Hold'Em Table Game.

The casino allows all the players to share their card information. So there are 7 players each with two cards, making an obvious total of 14 cards viewable before the flop. (Vegas Casinos did not allow this exchange of information)

Is there a way to use this additional information to increase the odds/ basic strategy of the game to where the house edge is less?

My thinking is if I have 2 clubs, and in the other 12 cards at the table before the flop there are 5 more clubs are out. I would have to hit 3 of the remaining 5 clubs to hit a flush, which changes the percentage of hitting a flush prior to this information.

I was wanting to see if someone could create a solid (based on probability) hit/stand chart (so to speak) that shows when to go in before the flop based on 14 cards out, also after the flop, then after the turn & river cards.

Then the fold move based on 19 cards out.

Thanks for the help.
AZDuffman
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April 5th, 2010 at 8:15:45 AM permalink
Not sure of all the math, but I'd start this way:

You are seeing 14 of 52 cards which is (rounded) 27% of the deck.

There are 39 cards (73%) of the deck unseen.

There is thus a 2.5% chance for each "out," with each card being about 2.5% of the remaining deck.

So say 8 outs to make a flush take 8 x 2.5 = 20% chance at the river or 40% at the turn.

I am basing this on the "Rule of 2/4" in real Hold'em where you see 2 cards and have 47 left after the flop.

(Or multiply outs by 4 to calculate making a hand after the turn and 2 at the river.)

Not sure if this is right or not, as I said algebra took me more than I took it.
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teddys
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April 5th, 2010 at 3:35:47 PM permalink
http://discountgambling.net/2010/01/15/practical-collusion-for-ultimate-texas-holdem/
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