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February 10th, 2013 at 2:27:50 PM permalink
Ferry A leaves the south shore of a river at the same time as ferry B leaves the north shore. They both travel at 90-degree angles to the shore. The pass each other at a point 720 meters from the north shore. They both continue in the same direction, make a 10-minute stop at their respective opposite shores, and turn around. The two ferries pass each other again 400 meters from the south shore. Each ferry travels at its own rate consistently, except the 10-minute shore breaks.

How wide is the river?

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February 10th, 2013 at 2:43:59 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Ferry A leaves the south shore of a river at the same time as ferry B leaves the north shore. They both travel at 90-degree angles to the shore. The pass each other at a point 720 meters from the north shore. They both continue in the same direction, make a 10-minute stop at their respective opposite shores, and turn around. The two ferries pass each other again 400 meters from the south shore. Each ferry travels at its own rate consistently, except the 10-minute shore breaks.

How wide is the river?

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wide enough for both boats?
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February 10th, 2013 at 2:55:12 PM permalink
First!



Sa * t = x - 720
Sb * t = 720

--> (x - 720) / Sa = 720 / Sb
Sb = Sa * 720 / (x - 720)

Sa * t2 = 2x - 400
Sb * t2 = x + 400

--> (2x - 400) / Sa = (x + 400) / Sb
Sb = Sa (x + 400) / (2x - 400)

==> Sa (x+ 400) / (2x - 400) = Sa * 720 / (x- 720)

(x + 400) / (2x - 400) = 720 / (x - 720)
x = 1760

The river is 1760 meters wide.

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February 10th, 2013 at 4:15:44 PM permalink
Oh sure, challenge my brain.



Let w = width of the river.

So we have two equations solved by t = d/v:


(1): 720/n = (w-720)/s: s/n = (w-720)/720
(2): (w+400)/n = (2w - 400)/s: s/n = (2w-400)/(w+400)


s and n are the same in both equations and therefore the ratio will be the same:

(w-720)/720 = (2w-400)/(w+400)

solve for w:

(w-720)(w+400) = 720(2w-400)
w^2 - 1760w = 0

w = 1760.

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February 10th, 2013 at 4:27:45 PM permalink
I could post my answer if I knew how to post a spoiler. Otherwise Mission will nail me.

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February 10th, 2013 at 4:31:29 PM permalink
Click here for formatting codes in the bottom right...

It's pretty simple:

[ spoiler] Answer here [ /spoiler]

Just omit the space before [_spoiler]
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February 10th, 2013 at 6:21:14 PM permalink
I concur with the answers of Boymimbo and Canyonero. My method was the same as boymimbo's.
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February 10th, 2013 at 6:26:10 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I concur with the answers of Boymimbo and Canyonero. My method was the same as boymimbo's.


As was mine.
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February 10th, 2013 at 6:40:25 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I concur with the answers of Boymimbo and Canyonero. My method was the same as boymimbo's.



Woot! I'm just embarrassed that it took me an hour to figure out. The 10 minute wait is just a ruse to confuse you.

Next time, I'll buy a bunch of camera gear and show me working away at my computer to show you that I'm doing the work. It'll be scintillating stuff. Or maybe I'll do a few hundred trials to prove my answer. I'm telling you, though, the answer that I came up with is the right one!!!
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February 10th, 2013 at 8:00:14 PM permalink
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Next time, I'll buy a bunch of camera gear and show me working away at my computer to show you that I'm doing the work.



Please post the video on YouTube. How about an over/under line on number of views in the first year?
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February 10th, 2013 at 8:12:55 PM permalink
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Please post the video on YouTube. How about an over/under line on number of views in the first year?



Are you serious? ;) I was just parodying another famous thread on this forum. I have no interest in broadcasting myself on YouTube -- my life is far too uninteresting for anyone to pay attention to it -- heck sometimes I don't pay attention to myself.
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February 10th, 2013 at 8:15:00 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

Are you serious? ;) I was just parodying another famous thread on this forum. I have no interest in broadcasting myself on YouTube -- my life is far too uninteresting for anyone to pay attention to it -- heck sometimes I don't pay attention to myself.



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February 11th, 2013 at 2:20:16 PM permalink
I got the same answer using the same method.
Relative speeds B/A = 720/(X-720) = (X+400)/(2X-400). However what was interesting, checking the result, the first meeting was 720m and 1040m and the second one was 2160m and 3120m, which is exactly three times more.
This makes me wonder whether there's a smart way to prove this and solve it easier?
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February 11th, 2013 at 2:26:52 PM permalink
Why do I always click the wizards spoiler tag when I know it always says have a nice day?
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February 11th, 2013 at 5:18:21 PM permalink
Quote: rainman

Why do I always click the wizards spoiler tag when I know it always says have a nice day?



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February 11th, 2013 at 6:42:37 PM permalink
To hide "spoiler" text, see instructions here on formatting codes.

The info you seek is at the bottom.
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