billyboy
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May 28th, 2012 at 10:26:11 AM permalink
Hello Im new in forum and i want to have some info because im too comfused about the way to calculate the combinations of
a slot machine game.
Lets start with a game with 3x5 reel and 9 line

the symbols :
R1 R2 R3 R4 R5
ITEM1 2 2 2 2 3
ITEM2 4 2 6 8 2
ITEM3 6 4 7 4 3
ITEM4 7 8 5 8 6
ITEM5 8 10 10 7 7
ITEM6 9 11 4 5 9
ITEM7 10 11 7 4 10
ITEM8 11 11 10 7 8
ITEM9 11 6 12 9 8
ITEM0 11 7 11 12 9
SCATER 2 2 2 2 3
SUM 81 74 75 68 68


Can please anyony explaine the way to make mathimatec all the combinations?

Thank you
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May 28th, 2012 at 11:09:30 AM permalink
I suggest you read the following articles, as well as some of the items that are linked.

https://wizardofodds.com/play/slots/atkins-diet/
https://wizardofodds.com/games/slots/
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billyboy
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May 28th, 2012 at 1:52:35 PM permalink
Yes but there is no mathematic formula tha i can use for make all the combinations?
5 in a row for example is r1*r2*r3*r4*r5......
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May 28th, 2012 at 2:06:51 PM permalink
There are two basic approaches:

1) The mathematical approach. Come up with formulas for each X in a row of symbol Y. Keep in mind that with a Wild symbol, the formulas will get a little more complicated for two reasons: the extra symbol, and the possibility of X in a row of Wild symbols paying more than Y in a row of symbol Z. Typically only the higher-paying combination is paid in such situations.

2) The brute-force approach. Write some computer code to iterate through every possible combination to determine the highest-paying win. I recommend using only the unique combinations and weighting them accordingly to keep the processing time under 1 second.

Also keep in mind that scatter symbols are calculated differently than payline symbols.
billyboy
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May 28th, 2012 at 2:36:47 PM permalink
Im interest for an example of mathematic approache if you can.
The brute force is not a academic way but a practic to see if the theory is ok.

Thank you.
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May 28th, 2012 at 2:46:07 PM permalink
I use the brute-force approach myself because it is less susceptible to errors, and reusable regardless of how many symbols there are. I'll let others chime in with mathematical examples if they wish.
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May 28th, 2012 at 3:10:50 PM permalink
So you have a program you put the symbols and get the results?
All like practice?
You dont want to see if the theoritical is the same to practice?


Thank you.
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May 28th, 2012 at 4:37:17 PM permalink
Quote: billyboy

So you have a program you put the symbols and get the results?
All like practice?
You dont want to see if the theoritical is the same to practice?


Thank you.



I use both. I start by using a program, which is not a simulator; it actually counts all win combinations. When I get close to what I want, I insert formulas, which give identical results. The reason I do this is so the client can alter things and have them update real time in excel. When they're done, I make sure that all the numbers are still right.
I heart Crystal Math.
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May 28th, 2012 at 5:00:47 PM permalink
Can you please give me a link for your program?
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May 28th, 2012 at 5:21:37 PM permalink
Quote: billyboy

Can you please give me a link for your program?



It is custom software that I wrote. My apologies, but I will not be distributing it.
I heart Crystal Math.
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May 28th, 2012 at 11:13:16 PM permalink
Need a program like this if anyone can give me a link for test.

Thank you
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May 28th, 2012 at 11:40:14 PM permalink
Mine is also custom written, and unfortunately I will not be making it available either.
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