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OnceDear
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May 31st, 2018 at 3:32:29 PM permalink
Quote: Justbreak

Has anybody ever thought a dealer was intentionally having a conversation with them to try to keep them off their count?

I'm sure it happens, but not to me because I don't count well enough.
More likely that I'd strike up a conversation with the dealer to distract her to overpay me, or misdeal in my favour .
$;o)
Anyhow, welcome to the forum.
Take care out there. Spare a thought for the newly poor who were happy in their world just a few days ago, but whose whole way of life just collapsed..
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May 31st, 2018 at 5:33:00 PM permalink
I like to freak the dealers out and mess them up by *mostly* *trying* to being able to predict the hole card as well as the cards a dealer will recieve next. I know im just guessing but it really does get to them even when im right some of the time. They usually get to a point where they actually slow the game down because they want to see if im correct. Theyll say something along the lines of okay heatmap whats my card. If I dont get the hole card correct, the next card they pull is usually the card i say.Of course they love it when im wrong though and the game picks right back up. How many of you hate when people like me say stuff like that and the dealer actually wins? Luckily for other people I play alone.
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May 31st, 2018 at 6:21:48 PM permalink
What I hate is a dealer and customer having enough of a non-game conversation that the dealer stops dealing.

Or the dealer taking a random comment from a player and turning it into a long story they tell...while not dealing.

Or they decide to fill in their table buddies on how they got skipped on break because that other dealer gamed the system...while not dealing.

If you can hold a light and random conversation while continuing to deal, great. Adds personality and interest to the table. If you can't talk AND deal...your choice should be to deal.

And yeah, I know it's sometimes a tactic to distract or engage a bad dealer, as mentioned above. I don't enjoy it. I don't do it (on purpose: I've been guilty many times of starting a conversation, not realizing it will take every ounce of the dealer's brainpower to tell that 5 minute story, leaving none for shuffling, dealing, or changing cheques while their lips are moving), and I don't encourage it.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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May 31st, 2018 at 6:31:36 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

And yeah, I know it's sometimes a tactic to distract or engage a bad dealer, as mentioned above. I don't enjoy it. I don't do it (on purpose: I've been guilty many times of starting a conversation, not realizing it will take every ounce of the dealer's brainpower to tell that 5 minute story, leaving none for shuffling, dealing, or changing cheques while their lips are moving), and I don't encourage it.


I was only joking Babs. I'm not that dishonorable... and I seldom play live anyway.
Take care out there. Spare a thought for the newly poor who were happy in their world just a few days ago, but whose whole way of life just collapsed..
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May 31st, 2018 at 6:53:54 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

I was only joking Babs. I'm not that dishonorable... and I seldom play live anyway.



OD,

I wasn't in the slightest suggesting anything about you. Sorry to have left that impression.

However, I don't think it's dishonorable, exactly. I just don't like it. I've been at several tables when someone else is doing it, and that's what I was really referring to.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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June 1st, 2018 at 5:26:55 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

What I hate is a dealer and customer having enough of a non-game conversation that the dealer stops dealing.

Or the dealer taking a random comment from a player and turning it into a long story they tell...while not dealing.

Or they decide to fill in their table buddies on how they got skipped on break because that other dealer gamed the system...while not dealing.

If you can hold a light and random conversation while continuing to deal, great. Adds personality and interest to the table. If you can't talk AND deal...your choice should be to deal.

And yeah, I know it's sometimes a tactic to distract or engage a bad dealer, as mentioned above. I don't enjoy it. I don't do it (on purpose: I've been guilty many times of starting a conversation, not realizing it will take every ounce of the dealer's brainpower to tell that 5 minute story, leaving none for shuffling, dealing, or changing cheques while their lips are moving), and I don't encourage it.


There are particular pit bosses that will over-rate my play for a certain game, somaometimes I actually pray for this type of dealer.
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June 1st, 2018 at 7:03:35 AM permalink
Few places hire dealers who are silent robots; a bit of personality is expected but the job is to DEAL. Where are you from is not a distraction but a simple social inquiry. Dummy up and deal is the primary rule if there is a distracting situation. Dealers who are too challenged to both chat and deal should simply deal.

I don't count cards either but its nice to hear an occasional 'good play' from the dealer or from other players even though it was pure luck. you go against Basic Strategy and lose you are a dolt, but if you happen to win then they chat with you a bit.

Its simple politeness which sometimes lapses in a casino due to general emotions, mounting losses and alcohol consumption.
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June 4th, 2018 at 6:05:52 PM permalink
If you don't like a chatty dealer..don't play at that table..1000x better to have a dealer with a personality than a robot. I like to talk a lot(and i mean a lot) when im dealing..but i also never change my pace of dealing,..it takes a good amount of practice.

Time goes by really slow when you have nobody talking or there is a POS being a crybaby..which is the only time i dummy up and deal..i could care less how many face cards I have on top, or how the dice hit a 7 every time you make a big bet.

Why would any dealer purposely distract a player from their count? 999/1000 dealers want your tip $$$ and could give 2 shits if a player is counting, or is an AP.

Another thing..purposely looking for weaker dealers so you can hope to distract them for a mis-pay? Thats just unethical
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June 4th, 2018 at 7:29:32 PM permalink
Quote: GlenG

If you don't like a chatty dealer..don't play at that table..1000x better to have a dealer with a personality than a robot. I like to talk a lot(and i mean a lot) when im dealing..but i also never change my pace of dealing,..it takes a good amount of practice.

Time goes by really slow when you have nobody talking or there is a POS being a crybaby..which is the only time i dummy up and deal..i could care less how many face cards I have on top, or how the dice hit a 7 every time you make a big bet.

Why would any dealer purposely distract a player from their count? 999/1000 dealers want your tip $$$ and could give 2 shits if a player is counting, or is an AP.

Another thing..purposely looking for weaker dealers so you can hope to distract them for a mis-pay? Thats just unethical



You're my kind of dealer. I agree it takes skill and experience to keep up your pace. And I think it should be a requirement for those who work the premium places.

I think you have to enjoy being there, doing it, watching what comes out. If it's just a job or you don't want to be there, chances are you're not very entertaining, either.

I'm the kind of customer who will encourage a rude or whining customer to get up. "If you're not enjoying yourself, you should get up, go get dinner..this is supposed to be fun" something like that. Chances are, though, if I'm saying that, we're at the point where either the whiner or I are leaving, because I'm not going to listen to it. Poor you. You can't leave. But you also can't say the things I can (as a customer) to another customer. So occasionally, it helps.

Yeah, I know, not an AP attitude or move (maybe sometimes ). But most good APs I know wouldn't bring that much attention to themselves in the first place.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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June 4th, 2018 at 7:33:26 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

I'm sure it happens, but not to me because I don't count well enough.
More likely that I'd strike up a conversation with the dealer to distract her to overpay me, or misdeal in my favour .
$;o)
Anyhow, welcome to the forum.



funny story, i like to say "ill take even money" whenever the dealer has a ten or above when I have what i *think* is a winning hand... so anything hard 17 or above. I have actually screwed myself out of money saying this as the one dealer i had liked to talk and listen to my bullshit alot. About 3 times, i actually had blackjack, the dealer was so quick to pay me, and ready to deal my next hand, and joking around like that i actually got what i asked for. the dealers ace didnt amount to blackjack and he paid me even money. personally i was having too much fun and thought it was *kind* of funny. at one point i let him know but it wasnt that big of a deal as i dont stray from the minimum too much. yeah im dumb haha

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