Atlantic City / Philly area Casino Hold 'em
May 9th, 2011 at 8:58:39 PM
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I couldn't find the Wizard's advice on this game anywhere despite much searching.
This game is significantly different than the same as the "Casino Hold 'Em" game offered by Bodog as late as Fall 2010 (I haven't played there since then) - that one is identical to the game the Wizard has already analyzed on his site.
Again, before I go any further, I want to mention it's NOT the version of "Casino Hold 'Em" he has on his Wizard Of Odds site, where there are only two betting rounds.
The games I've been seeing/playing in Atlantic City (since early 2010 there at the Borgata, and late 2010 in eastern PA at the Sands) are as follows:
1. Player makes a table minimum or higher bet on the initial ante, and an optional $1+ side "bonus" bet.
2. Two cards dealt to each player.
3. Players may fold (bonus stays in play) or double their ante - NOTE that if they double their ante, they play against the dealer no matter what.
4. Flop is dealt (first three community cards).
5. Players may place a raise bet equal to their first ante bet, but if they don't, they haven't folded - they still get to the showdown.
6. Turn card is dealt (fourth community card).
7. Players may place a second raise bet (regardless of whether they placed the first) equal to their first ante bet, but if they don't, they haven't folded (regardless of the previous bet) - they still get to the showdown.
8. River card is dealt.
9. Players are vs. the dealer according to normal poker rules.
9a. If the player wins vs. the dealer, the doubled ante bet and any raises are paid 1:1.
9b. If the player wins vs. the dealer using a straight or higher, the ante bet is also paid 1:1.
10. Regardless of whether the player folded in step 3, the bonus is paid according to a payout table on their hole cards, generally containing 30:1 odds for A, A and descending odds for A, K / A, Q / A, J suited and then paired Kings, Queens, and Jacks, and then any other pair. All other combinations forfeit the bonus.
Some casinos have a 1,000:1 payout if the player gets A, A and the dealer also has A, A.
The games are dealt with a single deck. Most dealers allow players to casually show the player to his immediate left/right his cards (and as the night goes on it's not uncommon to see players flash their cards if they have a high bonus), but technically this is not allowed.
I am curious for the usual mathematical analysis from the wizard on this game, and the side bet, specifically with respect to the two situations where you know 1-n other pairs from players around you vs. knowing nothing (and nothing being dealt, e.g. you are the only player), like an online game. Along with his usual insightful comments.
Anyone know where a similar analysis can be found? AGAIN, this is NOT the same as the "Casino Hold 'Em" game offered by Bodog as late as Fall 2010 (I haven't played there since then) - that one is identical to the game the Wizard has already analyzed on his site.
Thanks for any information.
-BB
This game is significantly different than the same as the "Casino Hold 'Em" game offered by Bodog as late as Fall 2010 (I haven't played there since then) - that one is identical to the game the Wizard has already analyzed on his site.
Again, before I go any further, I want to mention it's NOT the version of "Casino Hold 'Em" he has on his Wizard Of Odds site, where there are only two betting rounds.
The games I've been seeing/playing in Atlantic City (since early 2010 there at the Borgata, and late 2010 in eastern PA at the Sands) are as follows:
1. Player makes a table minimum or higher bet on the initial ante, and an optional $1+ side "bonus" bet.
2. Two cards dealt to each player.
3. Players may fold (bonus stays in play) or double their ante - NOTE that if they double their ante, they play against the dealer no matter what.
4. Flop is dealt (first three community cards).
5. Players may place a raise bet equal to their first ante bet, but if they don't, they haven't folded - they still get to the showdown.
6. Turn card is dealt (fourth community card).
7. Players may place a second raise bet (regardless of whether they placed the first) equal to their first ante bet, but if they don't, they haven't folded (regardless of the previous bet) - they still get to the showdown.
8. River card is dealt.
9. Players are vs. the dealer according to normal poker rules.
9a. If the player wins vs. the dealer, the doubled ante bet and any raises are paid 1:1.
9b. If the player wins vs. the dealer using a straight or higher, the ante bet is also paid 1:1.
10. Regardless of whether the player folded in step 3, the bonus is paid according to a payout table on their hole cards, generally containing 30:1 odds for A, A and descending odds for A, K / A, Q / A, J suited and then paired Kings, Queens, and Jacks, and then any other pair. All other combinations forfeit the bonus.
Some casinos have a 1,000:1 payout if the player gets A, A and the dealer also has A, A.
The games are dealt with a single deck. Most dealers allow players to casually show the player to his immediate left/right his cards (and as the night goes on it's not uncommon to see players flash their cards if they have a high bonus), but technically this is not allowed.
I am curious for the usual mathematical analysis from the wizard on this game, and the side bet, specifically with respect to the two situations where you know 1-n other pairs from players around you vs. knowing nothing (and nothing being dealt, e.g. you are the only player), like an online game. Along with his usual insightful comments.
Anyone know where a similar analysis can be found? AGAIN, this is NOT the same as the "Casino Hold 'Em" game offered by Bodog as late as Fall 2010 (I haven't played there since then) - that one is identical to the game the Wizard has already analyzed on his site.
Thanks for any information.
-BB
May 10th, 2011 at 6:25:38 AM
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I think you're describing Texas Hold'em Bonus.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
May 10th, 2011 at 8:35:08 PM
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I'm psyched you got a tattoo of me, and I'm sorry if I got the name of the game wrong. Anyone have an analysis, or a link to one?
